So, why aren't the libs acknowledging Trump is harder on Russia than obama?

[Theowl32]

It was President Trump who led the world in expelling Russian diplomats after the Russian government was suspected of carrying out a nerve agent attack in the United Kingdom against one of their former spies. President Trump moved swiftly to expel 60 Russian diplomats from U.S. soil, and other countries followed suit by expelling dozens as well.

In addition to stringent sanctions, President Trump has also called out Russia publicly.

During a landmark speech last year in Poland, Trump lambasted Russia for using oil to hold NATO's Eastern European countries hostage. Trump underscored the dangers of those countries' dependence on Russian oil deliveries to keep their people warm during the winter, leading to their inability to criticize Russia the rest of the year.

The Trump administration even offered to help identify alternative energy sources for the region. Trump's remarks on European soil was the energy industry equivalent of Reagan's "tear down that wall" speech.

Compare all of the above actions to Obama's milquetoast policy on Russia and outright appeasement on issues such as the "red line" that Russia blew right past in Syria. Obama's lackluster track record with Russia is in stark contrast to the Trump administration that has already, in its first 18 months, surpassed what Obama did over a total of eight years.

President Trump is tougher on Russia in 18 months than Obama in eight years

In what specific ways has Putin benefitted from Trump as president?

 

[JLW]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

 

[depotoo]

NATO summit: Trump says Germany is 'captive' to Russia

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

 

[Theowl32]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Is this related to your dog whistles claims? You don't have actual proof of shit, but you will claim it any way.

So, where are we?

No proof of collusion whatsoever.

No indication at all that Putin is benefiting in any real way from Trump.

You admit that Putin did benefit from obama.

You still claim Putin fixed the American election of 2016.

Yet, obama several times claimed it was literally impossible to do that.


That is where we are.

So, when we hear this quote from whomever, "Always accuse others of that which you are guilty."

How does that quote apply here?

 

[JLW]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Is this related to your dog whistles claims? You don't have actual proof of shit, but you will claim it any way.

So, where are we?

No proof of collusion whatsoever.

No indication at all that Putin is benefiting in any real way from Trump.

You admit that Putin did benefit from obama.

You still claim Putin fixed the American election of 2016.

Yet, obama several times claimed it was literally impossible to do that.


That is where we are.

So, when we hear this quote from whomever, "Always accuse others of that which you are guilty."

How does that quote apply here?

Well, there is more than enough evidence that Trump has deep Russian ties going back to his days at Trump Tower. The question is whether he acted in concert with the Russians to undermine the US election. It does not matter one damn bit if one person did or did not change their vote, the question is did he collude with them to undermine the system. Aiding and abetting a crime is still a criminal act. If he did, he should pay the consequences. Trump is not above the law. But you have nothing to worry about from the Russian probe because Trump says he is innocent.

 

[Theowl32]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Is this related to your dog whistles claims? You don't have actual proof of shit, but you will claim it any way.

So, where are we?

No proof of collusion whatsoever.

No indication at all that Putin is benefiting in any real way from Trump.

You admit that Putin did benefit from obama.

You still claim Putin fixed the American election of 2016.

Yet, obama several times claimed it was literally impossible to do that.


That is where we are.

So, when we hear this quote from whomever, "Always accuse others of that which you are guilty."

How does that quote apply here?

Well, there is more than enough evidence that Trump has deep Russian ties going back to his days at Trump Tower. The question is whether he acted in concert with the Russians to undermine the US election. It does not matter one damn bit if one person did or did not change their vote, the question is did he collude with them to undermine the system. Aiding and abetting a crime is still a criminal act. If he did, he should pay the consequences. Trump is not above the law. But you have nothing to worry about from the Russian probe because Trump says he is innocent.

Shut up

 

[depotoo]

Only in fantasyland.

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Is this related to your dog whistles claims? You don't have actual proof of shit, but you will claim it any way.

So, where are we?

No proof of collusion whatsoever.

No indication at all that Putin is benefiting in any real way from Trump.

You admit that Putin did benefit from obama.

You still claim Putin fixed the American election of 2016.

Yet, obama several times claimed it was literally impossible to do that.


That is where we are.

So, when we hear this quote from whomever, "Always accuse others of that which you are guilty."

How does that quote apply here?

Well, there is more than enough evidence that Trump has deep Russian ties going back to his days at Trump Tower. The question is whether he acted in concert with the Russians to undermine the US election. It does not matter one damn bit if one person did or did not change their vote, the question is did he collude with them to undermine the system. Aiding and abetting a crime is still a criminal act. If he did, he should pay the consequences. Trump is not above the law. But you have nothing to worry about from the Russian probe because Trump says he is innocent.

 

[kaz]

So, why aren't the libs acknowledging Trump is harder on Russia than obama?

The Democrats are lying? Wow, I don't think that ever happened before ...

 

[kaz]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Is this related to your dog whistles claims? You don't have actual proof of shit, but you will claim it any way.

So, where are we?

No proof of collusion whatsoever.

No indication at all that Putin is benefiting in any real way from Trump.

You admit that Putin did benefit from obama.

You still claim Putin fixed the American election of 2016.

Yet, obama several times claimed it was literally impossible to do that.


That is where we are.

So, when we hear this quote from whomever, "Always accuse others of that which you are guilty."

How does that quote apply here?

Well, there is more than enough evidence that Trump has deep Russian ties going back to his days at Trump Tower. The question is whether he acted in concert with the Russians to undermine the US election. It does not matter one damn bit if one person did or did not change their vote, the question is did he collude with them to undermine the system. Aiding and abetting a crime is still a criminal act. If he did, he should pay the consequences. Trump is not above the law. But you have nothing to worry about from the Russian probe because Trump says he is innocent.

You're just in a fantasy world of hate and anger

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Bullshit Congress can't force the President to sign shit not without a 2//3 override.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

It was President Trump who led the world in expelling Russian diplomats after the Russian government was suspected of carrying out a nerve agent attack in the United Kingdom against one of their former spies. President Trump moved swiftly to expel 60 Russian diplomats from U.S. soil, and other countries followed suit by expelling dozens as well.

In addition to stringent sanctions, President Trump has also called out Russia publicly.

During a landmark speech last year in Poland, Trump lambasted Russia for using oil to hold NATO's Eastern European countries hostage. Trump underscored the dangers of those countries' dependence on Russian oil deliveries to keep their people warm during the winter, leading to their inability to criticize Russia the rest of the year.

The Trump administration even offered to help identify alternative energy sources for the region. Trump's remarks on European soil was the energy industry equivalent of Reagan's "tear down that wall" speech.

Compare all of the above actions to Obama's milquetoast policy on Russia and outright appeasement on issues such as the "red line" that Russia blew right past in Syria. Obama's lackluster track record with Russia is in stark contrast to the Trump administration that has already, in its first 18 months, surpassed what Obama did over a total of eight years.

President Trump is tougher on Russia in 18 months than Obama in eight years

In what specific ways has Putin benefitted from Trump as president?

Why? Because Donald isn't doing any of these things. Yes, it's happening under his Presidency, but he's not the one making these moves. In pretty much every case these actions are taken without Donald's involvement, sometimes to his chargrin. Even after such actions are taken the President has often turned around and demanded their reversal, or created new rules that reduce the measures to mere nominal gestures that lack effectiveness. While various government officials and agencies are actively trying to be strong against Russia, Donald's only actions have been to undermine those efforts.

 

[Theowl32]

It was President Trump who led the world in expelling Russian diplomats after the Russian government was suspected of carrying out a nerve agent attack in the United Kingdom against one of their former spies. President Trump moved swiftly to expel 60 Russian diplomats from U.S. soil, and other countries followed suit by expelling dozens as well.

In addition to stringent sanctions, President Trump has also called out Russia publicly.

During a landmark speech last year in Poland, Trump lambasted Russia for using oil to hold NATO's Eastern European countries hostage. Trump underscored the dangers of those countries' dependence on Russian oil deliveries to keep their people warm during the winter, leading to their inability to criticize Russia the rest of the year.

The Trump administration even offered to help identify alternative energy sources for the region. Trump's remarks on European soil was the energy industry equivalent of Reagan's "tear down that wall" speech.

Compare all of the above actions to Obama's milquetoast policy on Russia and outright appeasement on issues such as the "red line" that Russia blew right past in Syria. Obama's lackluster track record with Russia is in stark contrast to the Trump administration that has already, in its first 18 months, surpassed what Obama did over a total of eight years.

President Trump is tougher on Russia in 18 months than Obama in eight years

In what specific ways has Putin benefitted from Trump as president?

Why? Because Donald isn't doing any of these things. Yes, it's happening under his Presidency, but he's not the one making these moves. In pretty much every case these actions are taken without Donald's involvement, sometimes to his chargrin. Even after such actions are taken the President has often turned around and demanded their reversal, or created new rules that reduce the measures to mere nominal gestures that lack effectiveness. While various government officials and agencies are actively trying to be strong against Russia, Donald's only actions have been to undermine those efforts.

Holy shit

 

[forkup]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Bullshit Congress can't force the President to sign shit not without a 2//3 override.

Senate joins House in overwhelmingly passing new Russian sanctions
Does 98/2 count as 2/3's. Not good at math but I'm pretty sure that counts.
Trump Won't Impose Sanctions on Russia and Congress Is Upset
This is what Trump choose to do. Doesn't look exactly a hard stance.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Bullshit Congress can't force the President to sign shit not without a 2//3 override.

Senate joins House in overwhelmingly passing new Russian sanctions
Does 98/2 count as 2/3's. Not good at math but I'm pretty sure that counts.
Trump Won't Impose Sanctions on Russia and Congress Is Upset
This is what Trump choose to do. Doesn't look exactly a hard stance.

He hasn't vetoed anything so ….

 

[forkup]

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Bullshit Congress can't force the President to sign shit not without a 2//3 override.

Senate joins House in overwhelmingly passing new Russian sanctions
Does 98/2 count as 2/3's. Not good at math but I'm pretty sure that counts.
Trump Won't Impose Sanctions on Russia and Congress Is Upset
This is what Trump choose to do. Doesn't look exactly a hard stance.

He hasn't vetoed anything so ….

So... It shows that the premise of the OP, namely that Trump is in ANY way though on Russia is clearly false. And that you trying to imply that congress hasn't tried to force Trump to impose sanctions is equally false.They did it by the exact means you were saying, by making the sanctions veto proof. The exact reason of course Trump didn't veto. Feigned ignorance as you are now showing, shows you to be dishonest here.

 

[toobfreak]

So, why aren't the libs acknowledging Trump is harder on Russia than obama?

The Left is all about living in a bubble of Hollywood reality where they alter facts to fit the bubble. They don't care how nonsensical it is. That is why they are on the OUTSIDE looking in on the:
2010 Midterm.
2014 Midterm.
2016 General.
The Supreme Court. And standing on the doorstep of losing the
2018 Midterm.

And STILL think they're winning the fight and that Trump and the GOP are about to fall apart any day now.

That day has been coming for them for EIGHT YEARS now.

 

[depotoo]

You do realize that was old news, right? He came up with tougher sanctions after that.

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Bullshit Congress can't force the President to sign shit not without a 2//3 override.

Senate joins House in overwhelmingly passing new Russian sanctions
Does 98/2 count as 2/3's. Not good at math but I'm pretty sure that counts.
Trump Won't Impose Sanctions on Russia and Congress Is Upset
This is what Trump choose to do. Doesn't look exactly a hard stance.

 

[Theowl32]

They still are not acknowledging it. Well, john law the clasical hypocrite with the classical left wing double talk, claimed Trump was FOOOORCED to be harder on Putin.

We have others claiming he has not been tougher at all.

LOL!!!

They truly are worthless and utterly pointless to communicate with.

 

[forkup]

You do realize that was old news, right? He came up with tougher sanctions after that.

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Bullshit Congress can't force the President to sign shit not without a 2//3 override.

Senate joins House in overwhelmingly passing new Russian sanctions
Does 98/2 count as 2/3's. Not good at math but I'm pretty sure that counts.
Trump Won't Impose Sanctions on Russia and Congress Is Upset
This is what Trump choose to do. Doesn't look exactly a hard stance.

I'm guessing you mean when he expelled the 60 diplomats?Donald Trump ‘felt misled over expulsion of 60 Russian diplomats for Salisbury attack’
So the one time it didn't take an act of congress. It were his aides that pushed, and he had buyers remorse after the fact. Yup these are the actions of someone who's "tough" on Russia.

 

[depotoo]

Actually, no. He has taken several more actions since your Jan. articles.

• June 2018, President Trump’s Admin imposed sanctions against five Russian entities and three Russian individuals for enabling Russia’s military and intelligence units to increase Russia’s offensive cyber capabilities.
  
• President Trump’s Administration is implementing new sanctions on Russian oligarchs, government officials, and entities for their roles advancing Russia’s malign activities.
• The sanctions target seven Russian oligarchs and the 12 companies they own or control, 17 senior Russian government officials, and a state-owned Russian weapons trading company and a bank it owns.
  • A number of individuals listed in the Administration’s January 2018 Report on Senior Foreign Political Figures and Oligarchs in the Russian Federation will be targeted.
  • These sanctions will help ensure the Russian oligarchs who profit from Russia’s destabilizing activities face the consequences for doing so.
  • The state-owned weapons trading company being sanctioned provides military equipment and support to the Government of Syria, enabling the regime’s continual attacks against Syrian citizens.

REINFORCING A STRONG SANCTIONS REGIME: The new sanctions announced today will further the Administration’s efforts to confront destabilizing and malicious behavior by Russia.

• President Trump’s Administration has consistently confronted Russian activities that threaten our institutions, our interests, or our allies.
• In March 2018, President Trump’s Administration imposed sanctions against 16 Russian entities and individuals for their roles in Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
  • The Administration also imposed sanctions against Russian intelligence agencies and officials for their significant efforts to undermine U.S. cyber security.
• In February 2018, The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network proposed a new rule to bar a Latvian bank involved in illicit Russia-related activity from opening or maintaining correspondent accounts in the United States.

He twice has ordered the bombing of chemical weapons owned by Putin ally Bashar Assad of Syria. Last May, Ukraine began receiving U.S. state-of-the-art Javelin anti-tank missiles as well. The administration has now sanctioned a total of one hundred targets in response to Russia’s ongoing occupation of Crimea and aggression in Eastern Ukraine and has designated Russian actors under Iran and North Korea sanctions authorities too.

You do realize that was old news, right? He came up with tougher sanctions after that.

Trump is only being hard on the Russians because he is being forced into it by the Congress. Trump's words belie his actions.

I was not happy with Obama and thought he was weak with the Russians. Extremely weak. It is a stain on his legacy.

However, though there may be a stain on Obama's legacy does not act as absolution for Trump's sins with Russia including his acting like a Russian surrogate at NATO meetings and as may be revealed in the Mueller probe, among other things.

Bullshit Congress can't force the President to sign shit not without a 2//3 override.

Senate joins House in overwhelmingly passing new Russian sanctions
Does 98/2 count as 2/3's. Not good at math but I'm pretty sure that counts.
Trump Won't Impose Sanctions on Russia and Congress Is Upset
This is what Trump choose to do. Doesn't look exactly a hard stance.

I'm guessing you mean when he expelled the 60 diplomats?Donald Trump ‘felt misled over expulsion of 60 Russian diplomats for Salisbury attack’
So the one time it didn't take an act of congress. It were his aides that pushed, and he had buyers remorse after the fact. Yup these are the actions of someone who's "tough" on Russia.