Zone1 So what is "GENOCIDE" anyway? Does it apply to White S. Afrikaners?

[gipper]

You mean Iran? It's being worked on.

But I already told you and the rest of the forum.

The very Term "Genocide" is meaningless. I even gave an example.

You are a statist dupe, but don’t know it.

Do you see it?

 

[Darkwind]

What about the regime actually committing genocide?

What qualifies as a Genocide?

Two old Palestinians being caught in a war zone?

Three Palestinian mothers getting caught in a cross fire?

You see, the term "Genocide" means noting because clowns who have nothing but hate in their hearts will use it to further their own ideology.

When Hamas, the Palestinians in the West Bank, Syria, Iran...when they attack Israeal, that is also Genocide, as used by the likes of you and others.

When you are willing to be honest with yourself, then maybe a discussion can be had.

Until they, you're just another crazed nutjob.

 

[gipper]

What qualifies as a Genocide?

Two old Palestinians being caught in a war zone?

Three Palestinian mothers getting caught in a cross fire?

You see, the term "Genocide" means noting because clowns who have nothing but hate in their hearts will use it to further their own ideology.

When Hamas, the Palestinians in the West Bank, Syria, Iran...when they attack Israeal, that is also Genocide, as used by the likes of you and others.

When you are willing to be honest with yourself, then maybe a discussion can be had.

Until they, you're just another crazed nutjob.

Lol. God you’re an idiot.

 

[Darkwind]

Lol. God you’re an idiot.

Says the poster with a 5 IQ. STFU until you learn something.

 

[Zincwarrior]

South Afrika is not the US.

 

[martybegan]

This was the internet definition I found for genocide:

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

If you agree with that definition, then why would you say that South African White people are not the target of genocide? President Trump presented irrefutable proof that White Farmers are being targeted and killed. He played videos of a Black African leader exhorting his followers to kill the White farmer, boil them like frogs, etc. The White farmers have protected themselves with electric fences, drones, dogs, patrols, and they are still killed at 4 times the rate as other S Afrikaners. So what say you? Is the Democrat stance on rejecting White S. African refugees valid? Is their claim of asylum baseless? I say it meets every definition of genocide and their claim for asylum based on being persecuted, is valid.

it's not Genocide yet, because the goal is to get them to leave and give up their property for nothing or pennies on the dollar, not to just outright kill them.

The line is not that far off, however.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Who cares? Russia is slaughtering skads of people daily and you people don't cheer Russia on. Racist Afrikaans being kicked off the land they stole during their version of Jim Crow, thats a big deal to you though.

 

[martybegan]

Who cares? Russia is slaughtering skads of people daily and you people don't cheer Russia on. Racist Afrikaans being kicked off the land they stole during their version of Jim Crow, thats a big deal to you though.

Dismiss all you want, but this is an issue that won't go away. in 1994 deals were made for the creation of one man one vote, and those deals included protections for those giving up the whole Apartheid thing.

They didn't steal the land, they conquered it centuries ago and those on it legally owned it fair and square. All part of the 1994 peace arrangement that the ANC is currently throwing out the window so they can fail like Zimbabwe did.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Dismiss all you want, but this is an issue that won't go away. in 1994 deals were made for the creation of one man one vote, and those deals included protections for those giving up the whole Apartheid thing.

Won't go away for whom? It has less than nothing to do with the US, like Sudan.

They didn't steal the land, they conquered it centuries ago

No this was the 1940s.

and those on it legally owned it fair and square. All part of the 1994 peace arrangement that the ANC is currently throwing out the window so they can fail like Zimbabwe did.

Then it fails, who cares?

 

[jwoodie]

Debating the application of the term "genocide" is an exercise in irrelevancy. Was the bombing of Dresden or Hiroshima during WW2 genocide? Does it matter?

The REAL issue is whether the white Afrikaners have a legitimate claim for ASYLUM in the US. From the evidence cited by President Trump, it seems like they do.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The REAL issue is whether the white Afrikaners have a legitimate claim for ASYLUM in the US. From the evidence cited by President Trump, it seems like they do.

No, of course not. They have to go to the nearest safe country, not across the planet.
You are kicking out refugees from throughout Central and South America, but these rich people you care about.

 

[martybegan]

Won't go away for whom? It has less than nothing to do with the US, like Sudan.


No this was the 1940s.

Then it fails, who cares?

SA is a major supplier of strategic minerals, the other big ones are Russia and China. Failure of SA on the level of Zimbabwe would put Russia and China in a bigger economic driver's seat.

You want that?

 

[Zincwarrior]

SA is a major supplier of strategic minerals,

You want that?

Prove it. All I see is you people trying to kick out refugees legally already here and screaming about some racist farmers not even from our continent. You want them to come in - fine. But then why are you kicking legal refugees already here, out at the same time?

 

[martybegan]

Prove it. All I see is you people trying to kick out refugees legally already here and screaming about some racist farmers not even from our continent. You want them to come in - fine. But then why are you kicking legal refugees already here, out at the same time?

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You have zero proof they are racists. It's not the 1980's and 1990's anymore, these people were kids when Apartheid ended.

We aren't kicking out legals we are kicking out illegals that gamed the asylum system while Dems ignored said gaming.

Maybe you should stay out of zone 1 threads, you can't seem to handle being civil during conversations.

 

[Zincwarrior]

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Ok thats fair.
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You have zero proof they are racists. It's not the 1980's and 1990's anymore, these people were kids when Apartheid ended.

They still have the farms.

We aren't kicking out legals we are kicking out illegals that gamed the asylum system while Dems ignored said gaming.

The Venezuelans being kicked out were legal refugees. Same for the Ukrainians. Same for El Salvadorans etc. etc.

Maybe you should stay out of zone 1 threads, you can't seem to handle being civil during conversations.

I am being quite civil. I have not called anyone a racist cracker for trying to import other foreign racist crackers while kicking out the darkies at the exact same time. The only difference appears to be the color of their skin, but ok with allowing them in too, but not kicking out others at the same time. The hypocrisy is maddening, but explains much.

 

[jwoodie]

No, of course not. They have to go to the nearest safe country, not across the planet.
You are kicking out refugees from throughout Central and South America, but these rich people you care about.

Where is the nearest safe country?

 

[martybegan]

Ok thats fair.
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They still have the farms.

The Venezuelans being kicked out were legal refugees. Same for the Ukrainians. Same for El Salvadorans etc. etc.


I am being quite civil. I have not called anyone a racist cracker for trying to import other foreign racist crackers while kicking out the darkies at the exact same time. The only difference appears to be the color of their skin, but ok with allowing them in too, but not kicking out others at the same time. The hypocrisy is maddening, but explains much.

And the government and other groups are trying via violence to get them to give them up. With either no compensation or pennies on the dollar.

Plenty of those Venezuelans were just criminals sent out by the Venezuelan government to get rid of them. There are probably some legitimate political refugees involved, but since the Biden admin didn't do anything to actually try to set them apart and just opened the flood gates, you get the reaction that is occurring now.

Meanwhile we let in a few hundred thousand Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis on HB-1 visas every year and they are usually far "darker" than the Hispanics that swarmed over our borders. Kind of puts the Kibosh on your race accusations.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Meanwhile we let in a few hundred thousand Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis on HB-1 visas every year and they are usually far "darker" than the Hispanics that swarmed over our borders. Kind of puts the Kibosh on your race accusations.

You're not trying to keep them here.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Where is the nearest safe country?

Not here.

 

[martybegan]

You're not trying to keep them here.

But we let them in here, and many of them can then try to transfer to a permanent status, I work in Engineering and we have a few H1-B's in my company, not all but many try to transfer to a green card.