So, we all agree then. In the light of the Ray Rice hype.....

[ogibillm]

Women do not belong on any battlefield, and standards should not be lowered in order to get women to be firefighters, cause women are simply weaker on average than men.

Right?

i could physically subdue my wife.
she's also a better soldier on her worst day than i would ever be.

i'm curious, how many soldiers do you think got in fist fights with the enemy in iraq and afghanistan?

I can't say - but what the hell has that to do with anything? A fighter is a fighter - you either ARE or you AREN'T. Apparently you aren't.

I was in a hand-to-hand situation one time while in Vietnam. I NEVER, EVER want to go through that again. It was NOT pretty. It takes you to your basic animal - screw that. That's why God invented guns.

just pointing out that because someone is bigger and stronger than another person that doesn't mean they would be a better soldier. frankly i don't think those traits factor very much into it.

i thought that point was pretty obvious.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Women do not belong on any battlefield, and standards should not be lowered in order to get women to be firefighters, cause women are simply weaker on average than men.

Right?

i could physically subdue my wife.
she's also a better soldier on her worst day than i would ever be.

i'm curious, how many soldiers do you think got in fist fights with the enemy in iraq and afghanistan?

I can't say - but what the hell has that to do with anything? A fighter is a fighter - you either ARE or you AREN'T. Apparently you aren't.

I was in a hand-to-hand situation one time while in Vietnam. I NEVER, EVER want to go through that again. It was NOT pretty. It takes you to your basic animal - screw that. That's why God invented guns.

just pointing out that because someone is bigger and stronger than another person that doesn't mean they would be a better soldier. frankly i don't think those traits factor very much into it.

i thought that point was pretty obvious.

Stronger certainly matters .That's why the military uses PT to further strengthen soldiers.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Usually sexist men like yourself secretly know you are not capable of being on a battlefield. You're a wuss and you lash out on an entire gender to not feel like one.

So which is it?

A - Women so inferior to men in physical strength and capability to defend themselves that they need special laws to protect them.

OR

B - Women are equal to men and deserve to be in any position in the Military that they want to be, combat or not. They are fully capable of not only defending themselves but others in the group under all situations of violence, including hand to hand combat.

Here's the question that must be asked of anyone who is for women serving in combat roles. YOU EVER BEEN IN COMBAT? If so, do you REALLY want your Wife or Daughter put into that hell?

Or, are men now so damned fearful for their lives, that they would allow their Wives or daughters to die in THEIR place?

It's really NOT a question of physical attributes - it takes one finger to fire a weapon. However, NOTHING they teach you in Basic Training can prepare you for seeing your buddies brains splattered all over your uniform. NOTHING. There is an emotional toll that is taken in battle. Most folks learn to handle it - but I have also seen people come completely apart and start mumbling to themselves. It ain't pretty.

Think about that before you begin sending your daughters or your Wives off to war while YOU stay home and do dishes.

 

[Ravi]

I guess I'm old fashioned,, men shouldn't be hitting women and women who want that special protection shouldn't be wanting to be in front line combat positions.

Sorry ladies , but there are plenty of other roles you can fill in the military.

What special protection do you speak of?

 

[SwimExpert]

This surprises you? Last night some tard was on here arguing that I hated women because I don't think a man should ever hit one.

Don't blame me for your misogyny. You're the one who said women are less than men.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I guess I'm old fashioned,, men shouldn't be hitting women and women who want that special protection shouldn't be wanting to be in front line combat positions.

Sorry ladies , but there are plenty of other roles you can fill in the military.

What special protection do you speak of?

Well, one special protection is I would, and indeed have, intervene when I see man hitting a woman. I feel far less inclined to if it is a man being hit, and I wouldn't even break stride if it was a woman hitting a man.

 

[Ravi]

I guess I'm old fashioned,, men shouldn't be hitting women and women who want that special protection shouldn't be wanting to be in front line combat positions.

Sorry ladies , but there are plenty of other roles you can fill in the military.

What special protection do you speak of?

Well, one special protection is I would, and indeed have, intervene when I see man hitting a woman. I feel far less inclined to if it is a man being hit, and I wouldn't even break stride if it was a woman hitting a man.

That's what you consider a special protection? LMAO

 

[SwimExpert]

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could you please point out the exact moment when she could have used that deadly "training" to keep from being "decked" ?

The thing that people refuse to acknowledge is that Janay was the one who initiated the violence. If she had any such training, her husband would have been on his way to a hospital before he ever had the chance to do anything to her.

But we don't need to mention that, right? It's only when a woman gets attacked that anyone cares. Because women are weak and pathetic by their nature, and need special protection.

 

[Billy000]

Usually sexist men like yourself secretly know you are not capable of being on a battlefield. You're a wuss and you lash out on an entire gender to not feel like one.

So which is it?

A - Women so inferior to men in physical strength and capability to defend themselves that they need special laws to protect them.

OR

B - Women are equal to men and deserve to be in any position in the Military that they want to be, combat or not. They are fully capable of not only defending themselves but others in the group under all situations of violence, including hand to hand combat.

Um neither. The entire basis of this thread is that women should not be allowed on the battlefield simply because a woman got knocked out in an elevator. That is retarded.

 

[NLT]

Women do not belong on any battlefield, and standards should not be lowered in order to get women to be firefighters, cause women are simply weaker on average than men.

Right?

If Rice's fiancee had military training and a gun, he would not have been able to deck her like he did. Your argument is a Fail Argument.

How so? he punched her so fast that no training would've have stop him. Also she was obviously drunk.

 

[Moonglow]

neither should be beating on each other...

 

[SwimExpert]

Well, one special protection is I would, and indeed have, intervene when I see man hitting a woman. I feel far less inclined to if it is a man being hit, and I wouldn't even break stride if it was a woman hitting a man.

That's because you're a sexist ****. You view women like children, or dogs.

See a man beating a child bloody.....intervene
See a man beating a dog bloody.....intervene
See a woman beating a child or dog bloody.....intervene

See a woman beating a man....Do nothing.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I guess I'm old fashioned,, men shouldn't be hitting women and women who want that special protection shouldn't be wanting to be in front line combat positions.

Sorry ladies , but there are plenty of other roles you can fill in the military.

What special protection do you speak of?

Well, one special protection is I would, and indeed have, intervene when I see man hitting a woman. I feel far less inclined to if it is a man being hit, and I wouldn't even break stride if it was a woman hitting a man.

That's what you consider a special protection? LMAO

Did you think I meant special legal considerations ? If so, that is a failure on your end, not mine.

Although , I think I could successfully argue that the selective service process gives special legal protections to women.

 

[ogibillm]

Women do not belong on any battlefield, and standards should not be lowered in order to get women to be firefighters, cause women are simply weaker on average than men.

Right?

i could physically subdue my wife.
she's also a better soldier on her worst day than i would ever be.

i'm curious, how many soldiers do you think got in fist fights with the enemy in iraq and afghanistan?

I can't say - but what the hell has that to do with anything? A fighter is a fighter - you either ARE or you AREN'T. Apparently you aren't.

I was in a hand-to-hand situation one time while in Vietnam. I NEVER, EVER want to go through that again. It was NOT pretty. It takes you to your basic animal - screw that. That's why God invented guns.

just pointing out that because someone is bigger and stronger than another person that doesn't mean they would be a better soldier. frankly i don't think those traits factor very much into it.

i thought that point was pretty obvious.

Stronger certainly matters .That's why the military uses PT to further strengthen soldiers.

pt is about fitness, not strength.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Women do not belong on any battlefield, and standards should not be lowered in order to get women to be firefighters, cause women are simply weaker on average than men.

Right?

How about you take a punch from Ray Rice and we'll see how equal you are.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Women do not belong on any battlefield, and standards should not be lowered in order to get women to be firefighters, cause women are simply weaker on average than men.

Right?

If Rice's fiancee had military training and a gun, he would not have been able to deck her like he did. Your argument is a Fail Argument.

How so? he punched her so fast that no training would've have stop him. Also she was obviously drunk.

Indeed, if I am to understand this idiot, a woman should now be armed BEFORE she agrees to date a guy or, God forbid, she becomes engaged. Apparently this Bodecea person believes that men are at their most dangerous directly BEFORE they get married. Jesus.....For the life of me, I don't know how the hell my Wife and I have remained married all these years........

 

[Theowl32]

So, again. Liberals (I am trying to figure out their logic) say women should be allowed to be on a battlefield, but are more disgusted when a man punches woman in the face, than a man punching another man in the face?

If I am not wrong, then why are so many feminists so utterly pissed off at Ray Rice but they do not say shit about Beyonce's sister assaulting JZ in an elevator?

You see any feminists demanding an arrest of that psycho? If they are demanding it, why isn't CNN covering that demand?

I love spinning liberals on their hypocritical, double talking axis.

PS.

Trust me. The morons on the left will now say I am saying men should be allowed to punch women. No, I am saying women on average are weaker than men, and so therefore we should all be more disgusted when a man punches a woman in the face.

I also happen to think, since women are weaker on average than men, should not be on any battlefield anywhere.

That, is what is called consistency.

Watch folks. They will call me a male chauvinist pig.

 

[Ava]

Is the Owl concerned that women should be beaten regularly by men and put in their place?

um, NO, that would have been Sean Connery:

 

[mudwhistle]

Liberals claim that if you can't defend yourself with your bare hands from a giant ahole you shouldn't be a cop.

 

[Misty]

Women have to take responsibility for their greed and stupidity when warranted.

You know she only married him for money. That's why she's defending him now.

He knocked her out and dragged her half way out of an elevator. If that other guy hadn't stepped in the elevator doors would kept hitting her in the head.

Ray rice is a ***** and his wife is a money grubbing whore. They deserve each other.