So Trump wants to send the National Guard to Chicago, New York, Detroit and Baltimore but the democratic leaders are pushing back

[fbj]

Because they saying crime is down? Why dont they want the citizens of those cities to be safer? Or they are pushing back because it Trump? They said its constitiutional lol

And no ******* crime is down

 

[White 6]

Because they saying crime is down? Why dont they want the citizens of those cities to be safer? Or they are pushing back because it Trump? They said its constitiutional lol

And no ******* crime is down

They should be pushing back, as per the constitution and amendments, Federal troops have no business enforcing lawfare on the public. States should decide when the National Guard is deployed within their borders, for how long, and control their command through the Adjutant General of the state. It is not a presidential deal, to basically declare martial law, send in the Federal Troop and take over law enforcement.

I can sort of understand DC. It is not a state. It is a Federal District. Maryland, Michigan, New York, and Illinois are states with their own rights, not given to the Federal Government.

It is not fair use of the National Guard, either. Pretend you are an E-5 Sergeant in the National Guard. In your civilian job, you make $68,000+/year at a factory, 2 kids in school, two car payments along with your wife and a house payment, along with interest on loans and taxes. Now you are sent to Washington, DC. for 6 months. You drop to pay and allowances of $4,076.40/ month. The government is then digging you a hole, it may be hard to get out of, and you take a hit to your credit rating, simply because some jackoff decided you were free labor to supplement DC, as they do not want to hire enough cops. Active Army was available and those soldiers, already used to the pay rate. For higher enlisted and officers, it can be worse, as many are business owners, even professional people taking a pay cut. So, what do you do. Go bankrupt on the business side? Sure Soldiers and Sailers Relief act, will protect your home and car(s), but your business? Nope. I knew of an officer with a successful dentil clinic and staff with a new facility, who was losing everything, the staff furloughed. He was overseas, nothing he could do about it, stop loss in effect. Lifestyle of his family based on his professional earning over for forceable future. He solved it by putting a bullet through his head, in his tent. Not common, but real.

 

[Oddball]

Democrats pushing back against getting a handle on violent crime.

This is how deranged they are.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Democrats pushing back against getting a handle on violent crime.

This is how deranged they are.

More Army troops on US soil since the Civil War

 

[Oddball]

It is not fair use of the National Guard, either. Pretend you are an E-5 Sergeant in the National Guard. In your civilian job, you make $68,000+/year at a factory, 2 kids in school, two car payments along with your wife and a house payment, along with interest on loans and taxes. Now you are sent to Washington, DC. for 6 months. You drop to pay and allowances of $4,076.40/ month. The government is then digging you a hole, it may be hard to get out of, and you take a hit to your credit rating, simply because some jackoff decided you were free labor to supplement DC, as they do not want to hire enough cops. Active Army was available and those soldiers, already used to the pay rate. For higher enlisted and officers, it can be worse, as many are business owners, even professional people taking a pay cut. So, what do you do. Go bankrupt on the business side? Sure Soldiers and Sailers Relief act, will protect your home and car(s), but your business? Nope. I knew of an officer with a successful dentil clinic and staff with a new facility, who was losing everything, the staff furloughed. He was overseas, nothing he could do about it, stop loss in effect. Lifestyle of his family based on his professional earning over for forceable future. He solved it by putting a bullet through his head, in his tent. Not common, but real.

You shitlib jackoffs had no such misgivings and objections to laying siege to DC in 2021, so stuff it.

 

[Oddball]

More Army troops on US soil since the Civil War

ibid

 

[Auld Phart]

Because they saying crime is down? Why dont they want the citizens of those cities to be safer? Or they are pushing back because it Trump? They said its constitiutional lol

And no ******* crime is down

they prefer the status quo.

no idea why.

 

[White 6]

You shitlib jackoffs had no such misgivings and objections to laying siege to DC in 2021, so stuff it.

That was MAGA that layed siege on Jan 6, 2021, a day that will live in infamy of that party for ever after, and their fruitless attack on our nation's capital.
**** you very much!

 

[The Duke]

That was MAGA that layed siege on Jan 6, 2021, a day that will live in infamy of that party for ever after, and their fruitless attack on our nation's capital.
**** you very much!
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I can't wait until the prosecutions begin for all the corrupt Soros D.A.s
Deaths are on their heads, they should swing. For real justice, they should.
And crimes have been under-reported AND under prosecuted in those cities just like D.C..
Like that sign in a drug store in CA: "Everything in this store costs $951 unless you check out at the register and get it scanned."
Guaranteed Grand Theft charge for theft. Each item is $951, so 1 criminal charge per item.
Brilliant!

 

[The Duke]

You shitlib jackoffs had no such misgivings and objections to laying siege to DC in 2021, so stuff it.

What did they do when there was anarchy in Seattle for a month?
Yeah, nothing.

 

[jotathought]

They should be pushing back, as per the constitution and amendments, Federal troops have no business enforcing lawfare on the public. States should decide when the National Guard is deployed within their borders, for how long, and control their command through the Adjutant General of the state. It is not a presidential deal, to basically declare martial law, send in the Federal Troop and take over law enforcement.

I can sort of understand DC. It is not a state. It is a Federal District. Maryland, Michigan, New York, and Illinois are states with their own rights, not given to the Federal Government.

It’s not entirely accurate to say the President has no authority over the National Guard. Governors normally control the Guard, but the Constitution and federal law — especially the Insurrection Act — allow the President to federalize them when needed to enforce laws or protect federal interests. That’s not the same as declaring martial law, which is much more extreme.

Federal troops usually can’t act as police under the Posse Comitatus Act, but there are legal exceptions. And Washington, D.C. is different — because it’s not a state, the President directly commands the Guard there.

So yes, states generally control their Guard, but it’s misleading to claim the President has no role. The law gives both the states and the federal government authority depending on the situation.

It is not fair use of the National Guard, either. Pretend you are an E-5 Sergeant in the National Guard. In your civilian job, you make $68,000+/year at a factory, 2 kids in school, two car payments along with your wife and a house payment, along with interest on loans and taxes. Now you are sent to Washington, DC. for 6 months. You drop to pay and allowances of $4,076.40/ month. The government is then digging you a hole, it may be hard to get out of, and you take a hit to your credit rating, simply because some jackoff decided you were free labor to supplement DC, as they do not want to hire enough cops. Active Army was available and those soldiers, already used to the pay rate. For higher enlisted and officers, it can be worse, as many are business owners, even professional people taking a pay cut. So, what do you do. Go bankrupt on the business side? Sure Soldiers and Sailers Relief act, will protect your home and car(s), but your business? Nope. I knew of an officer with a successful dentil clinic and staff with a new facility, who was losing everything, the staff furloughed. He was overseas, nothing he could do about it, stop loss in effect. Lifestyle of his family based on his professional earning over for forceable future. He solved it by putting a bullet through his head, in his tent. Not common, but real.

The argument that deploying the Guard leaves soldiers financially ruined is overstated. When activated, Guard members receive military pay and allowances that are structured to support them and their families. On top of that, laws like USERRA protect their civilian jobs, and the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act provides financial safeguards such as interest rate caps and protection from certain penalties.

Yes, some families may face challenges if their civilian pay is much higher, but the idea that service automatically damages credit or creates a financial hole is misleading. Protections exist to prevent exactly that outcome.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Because they saying crime is down? Why dont they want the citizens of those cities to be safer? Or they are pushing back because it Trump? They said its constitiutional lol

And no ******* crime is down

The FBI released its report on crime in the United States for 2024 today showing a 14.9 percent decline in murder with 4.4 percent and 8.1 percent drops in overall violent and property crime respectively. The nation’s murder rate for 2024 was down 26 percent from 2020’s figure and roughly even — slightly lower, actually — relative to where it stood pre-pandemic. The nation’s reported violent and property crime rates stood at the lowest levels since the 1960s in 2024

 

[White 6]

I can't wait until the prosecutions begin for all the corrupt Soros D.A.s
Deaths are on their heads, they should swing. For real justice, they should.
And crimes have been under-reported AND under prosecuted in those cities just like D.C..
Like that sign in a drug store in CA: "Everything in this store costs $951 unless you check out at the register and get it scanned."
Guaranteed Grand Theft charge for theft. Each item is $951, so 1 criminal charge per item.
Brilliant!

First, you gotta change the capital punishment law offenses. And, if you want those guys to swing, even if you change the law to include District Attorney's convicting criminal with overwhelming evidence of their crimes, many admitting in courts, you will not get a single capital judgment on them, as our constitution forbids ex post facto laws. Try to get a grip, before somebody takes you serious, reports you for advocating death threats and hanging public officials.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

Because they saying crime is down? Why dont they want the citizens of those cities to be safer? Or they are pushing back because it Trump? They said its constitiutional lol

And no ******* crime is down

Murder Officially Plunged in 2024

That and more takeaways from the FBI's 2024 Reported Crime in the Nation report.

jasher.substack.com

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

I can't wait until the prosecutions begin for all the corrupt Soros D.A.s
Deaths are on their heads, they should swing. For real justice, they should.
And crimes have been under-reported AND under prosecuted in those cities just like D.C..
Like that sign in a drug store in CA: "Everything in this store costs $951 unless you check out at the register and get it scanned."
Guaranteed Grand Theft charge for theft. Each item is $951, so 1 criminal charge per item.
Brilliant!

Talk

 

[IM2]

Because they saying crime is down? Why dont they want the citizens of those cities to be safer? Or they are pushing back because it Trump? They said its constitiutional lol

And no ******* crime is down

Crime is indeed down in these cities.

If you want crime to be reduced, start by removing the convicted felon who is the president.

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

You shitlib jackoffs had no such misgivings and objections to laying siege to DC in 2021, so stuff it.

The D.C. National Guard operates under unique authorities that are distinct from the 53 other National Guard units (50 states and three territories). Unlike other states and territories whose National Guard falls under the respective state governor for day-to-day operations, the District of Columbia is neither a state nor a territory. The president—via the secretary of defense and secretary of the Army—has much broader authority over the D.C. National Guard. As Elizabeth Goitein of the Brennan Center notes, the D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard organization that is always under the president’s command. So, the president can take control of the D.C. National Guard without first invoking the Insurrection Act, a law passed in 1807 that allows the president to use the active-duty military to perform law enforcement duties inside the United States under certain circumstances. It serves as a statutory key for the president to unlock authorities over both the National Guard and Title 10 federal military forces

 

[Stuartbirdan2]

It’s not entirely accurate to say the President has no authority over the National Guard. Governors normally control the Guard, but the Constitution and federal law — especially the Insurrection Act — allow the President to federalize them when needed to enforce laws or protect federal interests. That’s not the same as declaring martial law, which is much more extreme.

Federal troops usually can’t act as police under the Posse Comitatus Act, but there are legal exceptions. And Washington, D.C. is different — because it’s not a state, the President directly commands the Guard there.

So yes, states generally control their Guard, but it’s misleading to claim the President has no role. The law gives both the states and the federal government authority depending on the situation.

The argument that deploying the Guard leaves soldiers financially ruined is overstated. When activated, Guard members receive military pay and allowances that are structured to support them and their families. On top of that, laws like USERRA protect their civilian jobs, and the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act provides financial safeguards such as interest rate caps and protection from certain penalties.

Yes, some families may face challenges if their civilian pay is much higher, but the idea that service automatically damages credit or creates a financial hole is misleading. Protections exist to prevent exactly that outcome.

The cities and some states will sue

 

[The Duke]

First, you gotta change the capital punishment law offenses. And, if you want those guys to swing, even if you change the law to include District Attorney's convicting criminal with overwhelming evidence of their crimes, many admitting in courts, you will not get a single capital judgment on them, as our constitution forbids ex post facto laws. Try to get a grip, before somebody takes you serious, reports you for advocating death threats and hanging public officials.

Bah, that was the old ways.
Corruption like that was never tolerated back in the day.
It's treasonous behavior. Local officials have been installed by hostile entities that do not live in the US, but their proxies they funded do, and do their bidding. Absolutely corrupt.

 

[jotathought]

The cities and some states will sue

Awesome .. for what exactly?