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So in your opinion those who give whites privileges are racist.
I get it.
Couldn't the same be said for those that give the black special treatment such as affirmative action? Wouldn't those people also be racist?
If whites have privilege over blacks then it couldn't be anything other than skin color. It couldn't be the fact that blacks make up 12 percent of the population but make up 50 percent of the violent crime. It certainly couldn't be that the stereotypes pertaining to blacks contain a grain of truth.
Hey, dude. Slow down. Why are you getting so upset?
Obviously there exists more negative stereotypes associated with "blackness" vs "whiteness" in America - agree? And (by pure statistics) there are more white people in positions of power in the US, for a number of reasons - primarily because whites make up a greater % of the population.
Those two factors put a black candidate (out of 10,000 trials for example) at a disadvantage - naturally - over a white candidate. Why is this controversial?
Oh and given that white privilege exist in your world the white biker would have been hired over the clean cut black man. Why would racism change because of the way they look?
Lonestar- did you read my previous post? You're comparing two entirely different people. Stigmas exist for all sorts of things; long hair, tattoos, long fingernails, shabby dress - I completely get it.
The thing is you can change all those things if you want to get a job. You can trim your nails and get nice clothes. However you can't change your race. That is something you can't change. This is why we must compare LIKE SUBJECTS. A black and a white who are equally clean shaven, or a black and a white who are equally shabbily dressed. Get it?
Affirmative action, in education, hurts asians worse than whites. But i'm curious, if liberals want to end racism, why do they think discriminating by skin color is fine? Especially of asians and whites that have nothing to do with past discrimination?In your example it's quite obvious that the black person would be the "privileged one".
However, I will tell you with absolute confidence that racism will negatively impact black people to a much, much larger degree than affirmative action negatively impacting whites.
Am I an affirmative action spokesperson? Are liberals the only ones who want to end racism?
I will say that affirmative action is simply a mechanism designed to give impoverished black folks a slight boost to help pull themselves out of bad situations. On the whole, blacks suffer poverty to a much greater % than whites, and this is a (crudely designed) idea to help change that.
Just because we don't listen to women doesn't mean we think they are second class.
Well, technically yes it does - otherwise you'd listen to them.
I can only guess it attracted lions like this liberal retard
'White privilege' a concept worth studying -- Beth Dorschner : Wsj
White privilege doesn't exist.
The following are a few excerpts from the book
One is compelled to recognize that oppressed groups seeking equality needed to be amended into the Constitution in their quest for justice. On the other hand, heterosexual white men as a group, the unstated norm, have never needed to be amended into the Constitution.
It is common for teachers to proclaim they do not see color in children. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race does not exist is not the same as creating equality.
One reviewer wrote of the textbook :
...this book is disguised hate speech pretending to be a helpful enlightened book. This is real racism and prejudice under the guise of education and diversity. We dont need someone to tell us how to feel and act when we encounter someone who is of different ethnicity. ....
College orientation programs are frequently the initiating phase of Leftist indoctrination into the brave new worldview of progressive liberalism. Colleges and Universities under Big Brothers thumb require students to drop mental contraband like a hot potato. Mental contraband being surreptitiously defined as any thoughts or beliefs which contradict the official ideology. Religious views [Unless of course you are a member of a protected religion such as Islam] . Racial views, not part of the official ideology [Unless of course you are a minority racist such as Nation of Aztlan, or an opponent of the "blue eyed devils"]. Homophobic views, you are forbidden to speak out against the Gay Agenda under the penalty of Academic Death. Class warfare ideology is drilled into the minds of unsuspecting victims and the evils of capitalism and virtues of socialism are espoused.
I can only guess it attracted lions like this liberal retard
'White privilege' a concept worth studying -- Beth Dorschner : Wsj
White privilege doesn't exist.
Just because we don't listen to women doesn't mean we think they are second class.
Well, technically yes it does - otherwise you'd listen to them.
No it doesn't. If someone experiences FEELINGS that they are second class because of how I behave towards them, the FEELINGS are self-imposed.
At last! "You [and all LIBs] coddle black people because you think they are inferior". Right on the button. They are generally inferior when it comes to competing with other races. Because in this world a persons IQ AKA the ability to think and make decisions based on one's reality at the moment that yield a desirable positive outcome is generally about 15 points lower among Blacks than Whites and Asians. That is a scientific fact.There are people in community college right now that would do a job better than a Harvard grad, but employers will hire the Harvard grad over the community college guy anyway. Why? Because Harvard has earned a good reputation.
Black people commit crime at rates FAR higher than any other racial group. Typically they do not speak well and they are usually less educated. They have more trouble getting hired because they earned a bad reputation. Its a shitty and unpleasant fact, but its still a fact. If they want to be treated like everyone else, then they need to act like everyone else.
Asians aren't white, yet they have NO problem getting a job. Why? Because Asians have earned a good reputation.
You speak as if blacks and asians have enjoyed the exact same histories here in America. Not the case, Godboy.
Black folks came here as slaves, and when they were freed they were treated like dirt for about an additional 100 years (as recent as the 1930's it was acceptable for a white to call a fully grown black man "boy"), at which point things began to level off a bit with the passing of the civil rights act. This created ENTIRE generations stuck in the cycle of poverty. This is incredibly difficult to break out of.
The Asians/Indians we see in America now are in large part folks who immigrated here on their own merit/hard work. These are affluent people who were able to afford college in their home countries, plane trips, etc. The poor, impoverished, uneducated Asians stayed in Asia. Obviously this is going to create a different pool of people.
What is your agenda Godboy? I'm just stating the facts here and you seem rather threatened by it. What about what I'm saying scares you?
Nobody is afraid of your words. Don't be corny.
Asians are poor as fuck when they get to our country. They are usually flat broke, yet they make something of themselves, despite the fact that they barely speak English in many situations.
Why are you refusing to acknowledge that the black community is behaving differently than everyone else? When white people bahave badly you have no problem pointing it out. Why do you refuse to hold black people to the same standard as you hold white people? The truth is you coddle black people because you think they are inferior. There can be no other explanation.
Asians are poor as fuck when they get to our country. They are usually flat broke, yet they make something of themselves, despite the fact that they barely speak English in many situations.
Why are you refusing to acknowledge that the black community is behaving differently than everyone else?
When white people bahave badly you have no problem pointing it out.
Why do you refuse to hold black people to the same standard as you hold white people?
The truth is you coddle black people because you think they are inferior. There can be no other explanation.
Just because we don't listen to women doesn't mean we think they are second class.
Well, technically yes it does - otherwise you'd listen to them.
Bullshit. I don't listen to children telling me about finances, driving , hunting....etc.
Are they then thought of as second class?
In your example it's quite obvious that the black person would be the "privileged one".
However, I will tell you with absolute confidence that:
Racism negatively impacting black people > Affirmative action negatively impacting white people
There's no comparison.
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Racism negatively impacting people? You mean like when a mob of black people fracture a white guys skull for a few laughs? The racism is see today isn't coming from the white community. Black people are perfectly safe in white neighborhoods.
Yes, racism goes both ways. You'd be an idiot to think otherwise.
The difference is this Godboy (and listen carefully) white folks control many more positions of power in the United States. This is due to a number of reasons, with one of the "biggies" being that whites are a larger chunk of the population. If a white person wants to move up in the world racism isn't going to play a factor in his/her success. But it is likely that it might affect a black person in a significant way at some point in his/her career.
That is why white racism towards black people is a much larger topic of concern. And it most definitely still exists.
I can only guess it attracted lions like this liberal retard
'White privilege' a concept worth studying -- Beth Dorschner : Wsj
White privilege doesn't exist.
In Western (read: white) countries it kinda does, but no white man or woman should be ashamed of it. After all, Black and Asian privilege is encouraged and celebrated throughout Africa and Asia.
Race isn't nearly as big a factor as economic class when it comes to stereotyping and prejudice in the work place. Some companies have policies that seem to be specifically designed to drive off any working class white males trying to move 'up', like the current harassment guidelines where a person doesn't even have the basic right to know who is accusing him of harassment.
Class prejudice always overwhelms racial prejudice, in fact white upper class elites far more prefer working class blacks to be around than working class whites.
It is a diversion from the economic reality that the upper class and most minorities think if you are white and are not rich then you are lazy or stupid or both.
The European elites have been migrating here since the end of the Civil War and slowly taking over everything. This country no longer belongs to the people that built it, and we are now being brain washed into thinking we never had any right to our own nation anyway.
Well, technically yes it does - otherwise you'd listen to them.
Bullshit. I don't listen to children telling me about finances, driving , hunting....etc.
Are they then thought of as second class?
Adults don't listen to children because children are generally regarded as less experienced and less intelligent than adults.
Is this really the comparison you want to make, lonestar?
Yes. It's no different than not listening to a person that has no experience on the subject regardless of age.
Would I listen to a carpenter on the issues of quantum physics? No. Does that mean I view the carpenter as a second class citizen? No.
Yes. It's no different than not listening to a person that has no experience on the subject regardless of age.
Would I listen to a carpenter on the issues of quantum physics? No. Does that mean I view the carpenter as a second class citizen? No.
That's totally rational lonestar, I agree. It would make no sense listening to someone talk about a subject they have no experience with. However, the poster said that he didn't listen to ANY women - regardless of experience.
Questions:
What if the female was an expert hunter; would you still not listen to advice on how to track and take down a buck in one shot - just because she's a woman?
What if the female was a successful CFO of a major corporation; would you still not listen to her advice on how to run a company's budget - just because she's a woman?
Asians are poor as fuck when they get to our country. They are usually flat broke, yet they make something of themselves, despite the fact that they barely speak English in many situations.
Lets use our brains for a moment. Who is more likely to immigrate to the United States; an poor Asian person who works at a sweatshop for $6/day, or a middle-class, educated Asian person who has attended college? Note that plane tickets will generally run you about $1,000/person.
The point I'm making is just because a person is ignored doesn't mean they are thought of any less. Some men are simply stubborn and will not listen to anyone.
There are many of both sorts of immigrants from Asia to the US. Don't discount refugees, asylum seekers, and those smuggled in by various means.
