So, the Declaration of “Independence” was for whites only...

So vandalized, removed for safety sake, and yes toppled, are acceptable by some, however not by all, a given in this age of indoctrination. There are those that see monuments on private, public, or Federal Land, as recognition, good or bad, to those that paved the way in molding the American Experience, that very experience that provides those with right to demonstrate, voice their opinion, and freedom, to exercise the right of free choice? America is wandering along a very dangerous path, one that could one day eradicate the very freedoms we cherish.
 
So vandalized, removed for safety sake, and yes toppled, are acceptable by some, however not by all, a given in this age of indoctrination. There are those that see monuments on private, public, or Federal Land, as recognition, good or bad, to those that paved the way in molding the American Experience, that very experience that provides those with right to demonstrate, voice their opinion, and freedom, to exercise the right of free choice? America is wandering along a very dangerous path, one that could one day eradicate the very freedoms we cherish.
I have a feeling you're writing about something a lot more than toppling a few monuments.
 
So vandalized, removed for safety sake, and yes toppled, are acceptable by some, however not by all, a given in this age of indoctrination. There are those that see monuments on private, public, or Federal Land, as recognition, good or bad, to those that paved the way in molding the American Experience, that very experience that provides those with right to demonstrate, voice their opinion, and freedom, to exercise the right of free choice? America is wandering along a very dangerous path, one that could one day eradicate the very freedoms we cherish.
The damage to the country caused by protesters destroying monument to our founding fathers is a huge exaggeration. I guess I should expect it considering the president. There have been 94 monuments removed or in the process of removal since the George Floyd killing, most being transferred to other locations. Of those all but 14 were removed by local or state government or private or civic organization. Of the 14 toppled monuments, only 2 were our founding fathers, a statue of Thomas Jefferson which was not part any protest and George Washington which was attributed to vandals.

The claim that we are destroy our history is absolutely ridiculous. These monuments have little or no historical value. They were not constructed to preserve our history but to honor those that deserve to be honored. Instead of honoring many of these people, they would be jailed or worse today.
 
Well, historically, yes...it was for whites. White males. There was no Independence freedom for black slaves. Blacks have fought for and helped build this country. What a stupid thread Given how violently black rebellions were squashed and how often treaties with native Americans were broken, and they were slaughtered and subjugated under superior military force...Manifest Destiny.

It is all part of our national heritage: the good, the bad, and the ugly. Can’t change history.
funny you should bring up manifest destiny,,,

do you know who started and supported it??

thats right a democrat,,,


President James K. Polk

The ideology of Manifest Destiny inspired a variety of measures designed to remove or destroy the native population. US President James K. Polk (1845-1849) is the leader most associated with Manifest Destiny. Manifest Destiny inflamed sectional tensions over slavery, which ultimately led to the Civil War.

Manifest Destiny (article) | Khan Academy
 
Just seen a picture of a BLM protestor being busted ..this lady's and gentlemen are the people we are arguing with on the Constitution and history ...


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We are contending with the New Viet Kong?

Commies never go away. We must rid the world of them.
 
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I am certain that some but not all whites did impute such racism into the Declaration of Independence.

Some whites were indentured servants or slaves themselves, and some blacks had better or worse situations of employment than others. Not all blacks were slaves: some had good jobs and some were in business for themselves and hired other blacks. Some blacks might even have been thought to "own" other blacks as slaves.

At the beginning, blacks had some what more opportunities because the race was not yet firmly connected to slavery. That was a deliberate strategy of the southern landowners who innacted laws to that effect.
when you say southern landowners you mean democrats right???

This was long before the Dem party was founded. Learn some history.
face it little sister, every oppressive thing ever done to black people was done by democrats,,,,
They were the party of the South after all.
 
One of the enduring American myths we cherish is the two-party system. We must have two parties! To have three parties or more is impossible; to have only one, unthinkable.
we shouldnt have any,,,at least at the federal level,,
and no more electoral college. Implement mandatory participation. Make Election Day a national holiday.. to encourage all to actually get involved in their government and holding it accountable. Government is not a problem. Apathy, defeatism, and tolerance of corruption are.
 
One of the enduring American myths we cherish is the two-party system. We must have two parties! To have three parties or more is impossible; to have only one, unthinkable.
we shouldnt have any,,,at least at the federal level,,
and no more electoral college. Implement mandatory participation. Make Election Day a national holiday.. to encourage all to actually get involved in their government and holding it accountable. Government is not a problem. Apathy, defeatism, and tolerance of corruption are.
the electoral college is just fine,,no reason to kill it,,,and because we are a free country you cant force people to do anything,,,
 
because we are a free country you cant force people to do anything,,,
Except it's necessarily done all the time. Taxes, speed limits, civil and criminal penalties..
just because you like forcing people doesnt mean its right,,,not to mention other than taxs those forbid people from doing things not force them to do something,,,
 
because we are a free country you cant force people to do anything,,,
Except it's necessarily done all the time. Taxes, speed limits, civil and criminal penalties..
just because you like forcing people doesnt mean its right,,,not to mention other than taxs those forbid people from doing things not force them to do something,,,
Then neither would mandatory voting.
not true,,,it forces you to do something,,,,
 

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