So Obama care will force Catholic churches who employ people

[g5000]

Why are you so ******* lazy to use google.. If I ever have a question about a post I go to google to confirm or deny the posters post. Just like every one on the left they want everything handed to them and not work for it.. Its on google LOOK FOR IT> I will not give it to you

This is ironic. You start a topic and make some barely coherent claims but are too lazy to post the evidence for your claims.

 

[bodecea]

pay for this even though the morning after pill and other birth control is on this plan. Why is the catholic church allow to get waivers but so many others can. This is against their religion. And why is the morning after pill on this. That is the same as covering an abortion so the people on public assistance we are paying for this with our tax dollars /

And the Linkee for this story is........where?

Go read the ******* newspaper, you troll. It's all over there.

Yes, teh administration gave a big **** You to religious freedom. Any Catholic who votes for Obama ought to be excommunicated.

My my.....you are cranky, aren't you?

So now....asking for some kind of link gets this kind of response? People like you are really circling the drain, already.

 

[bodecea]

pay for this even though the morning after pill and other birth control is on this plan. Why is the catholic church allow to get waivers but so many others can. This is against their religion. And why is the morning after pill on this. That is the same as covering an abortion so the people on public assistance we are paying for this with our tax dollars /

And the Linkee for this story is........where?

Why are you so ******* lazy to use google.. If I ever have a question about a post I go to google to confirm or deny the posters post. Just like every one on the left they want everything handed to them and not work for it.. Its on google LOOK FOR IT> I will not give it to you

So no link. Ok.

 

[Lovebears65]

And the Linkee for this story is........where?

Why are you so ******* lazy to use google.. If I ever have a question about a post I go to google to confirm or deny the posters post. Just like every one on the left they want everything handed to them and not work for it.. Its on google LOOK FOR IT> I will not give it to you

So no link. Ok.

If you go down you will see there are LINKS you lazy ****

 

[g5000]

The one thing that has not been pointed out so far is that the Catholic institutions are exempted from having to provide birth control. However, this exemption is not allowed at Catholic institutions which employ people who are not Catholics.

A religious employer cannot qualify for the exemption if it employs or serves large numbers of people of a different faith, as many Catholic hospitals, universities and social service agencies do.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/h...rules-insurers-must-cover-contraceptives.html

 

[StevenC]

The one thing that has not been pointed out so far is that the Catholic institutions are exempted from having to provide birth control. However, this exemption is not allowed at Catholic institutions which employ people who are not Catholics.

A religious employer cannot qualify for the exemption if it employs or serves large numbers of people of a different faith, as many Catholic hospitals, universities and social service agencies do.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/h...rules-insurers-must-cover-contraceptives.html

Will the ACLU sue on behalf of the institutions on the basis of Seperation of church and state?

In announcing details of the final rule on Friday, Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, said it “strikes the appropriate balance between respecting religious freedom and increasing access to important preventive services.”

Balance? What the hell is this shit? You either respect religious freedom or not. What right does the government have in telling a religous institution how to operate?

 

[California Girl]

The one thing that has not been pointed out so far is that the Catholic institutions are exempted from having to provide birth control. However, this exemption is not allowed at Catholic institutions which employ people who are not Catholics.

A religious employer cannot qualify for the exemption if it employs or serves large numbers of people of a different faith, as many Catholic hospitals, universities and social service agencies do.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/h...rules-insurers-must-cover-contraceptives.html

I suggest that non Catholics who have issues with it, resign and find more appropriate jobs.

 

[AmericanFirst]

pay for this even though the morning after pill and other birth control is on this plan. Why is the catholic church allow to get waivers but so many others can. This is against their religion. And why is the morning after pill on this. That is the same as covering an abortion so the people on public assistance we are paying for this with our tax dollars /

Because obamacare is a anti-Christian anti-American pos bill forced on us by anti-American socialists.

 

[bodecea]

Catholic Churches Distribute Letter Opposing Obama Healthcare Rule - ABC News

Bishop urges Catholics to oppose health care law contraceptive m - WTOL.com: News, Weather and Sport for Toledo, Ohio

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/30/h...-catholic-campuses.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&amp


Political Science | Women and Faith: Law Fuels Contraception Controversy on Catholic Campuses | Kids Health Blog

And here is 3 million more links to shove up your ass
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy....,cf.osb&fp=ca4617b08f2edde4&biw=1360&bih=667

Thank you....finally.

Interesting how if the Catholic Church wants to have businesses (hospitals, etc.) they have to follow the law. I take it you endorse a complete government hands off policy when it comes to anything run by a church?

 

[bodecea]

That's a fair slice of voters to rile.

Approx 69 million of us. Way to go, O!

Of course. 69 million Catholics never, ever, ever use birth control.

 

[bodecea]

Why are you so ******* lazy to use google.. If I ever have a question about a post I go to google to confirm or deny the posters post. Just like every one on the left they want everything handed to them and not work for it.. Its on google LOOK FOR IT> I will not give it to you

So no link. Ok.

If you go down you will see there are LINKS you lazy ****

#1. I finally saw it and thanked you for it.

#2. Are you on the rag or something? You might want to take some hormones for that.

 

[California Girl]

That's a fair slice of voters to rile.

Approx 69 million of us. Way to go, O!

Of course. 69 million Catholics never, ever, ever use birth control.

Some do, many don't.

Hey, it's fine, I'm thrilled that the O is taking on the Catholics in the run up to an election. Totally works for me.

Mormons and Catholics have worked together in common interests before.... Romney won't get any shit from us.

 

[bodecea]

That's a fair slice of voters to rile.

Approx 69 million of us. Way to go, O!

Of course. 69 million Catholics never, ever, ever use birth control.

Some do, many don't.

Hey, it's fine, I'm thrilled that the O is taking on the Catholics in the run up to an election. Totally works for me.

Mormons and Catholics have worked together in common interests before.... Romney won't get any shit from us.

It would be interesting to see Catholic leaders denounce the President in church and tell their parrishioners to not vote for him.

Our tax rolls would get a nice shot in the arm from that new income.

 

[California Girl]

Of course. 69 million Catholics never, ever, ever use birth control.

Some do, many don't.

Hey, it's fine, I'm thrilled that the O is taking on the Catholics in the run up to an election. Totally works for me.

Mormons and Catholics have worked together in common interests before.... Romney won't get any shit from us.

It would be interesting to see Catholic leaders denounce the President in church and tell their parrishioners to not vote for him.

Our tax rolls would get a nice shot in the arm from that new income.

Our 'leaders' (they're actually Priests and Bishops - spiritual advisers - but if you feel the need to define them as 'leaders' in some attempt to suggest Catholics can't think for themselves, have at it) aren't stupid people. Catholics will inform themselves, and will vote accordingly.

Don't get all butthurt with us because the Messiah wants to take us on.

And, that 'shot in the arm'.... good luck with that - because it would cost the government all of that - and a whole hell of a heap more - to replace what the Catholic Church does in this country - without asking one red cent for it. We are the second largest (after the government) provider of social assistance in the country. Yea, pay for that yourselves. Idiot.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Go read the ******* newspaper, you troll. It's all over there.

Yes, teh administration gave a big **** You to religious freedom. Any Catholic who votes for Obama ought to be excommunicated.

Do I recall that the battleground state Ohio has lots of Catholics?

Think that's why Sebelius is putting off the requirement until after the election?

Won't make a hill of beans worth of difference when they do it. The Church will inform its members - all 69 million of us. This will cost Obama a serious number of Catholics.

Hope so....

"Q: An estimated 54% of Catholics voted for Barack Obama, despite the strong stand of over 50 heads of dioceses against candidates who support abortion. How did Obama successfully win the majority of the Catholic vote?

Burch: The notion of what constitutes the "Catholic vote" is widely debated. While Obama won the Catholic vote overall 54% - 45%, among Catholics who attend mass every week, McCain won 55% - 43%. Clearly the main reason Obama succeeded overall was the fact that Catholic voters echoed the concerns of the rest of the electorate in citing the economy as their top issue.

They concluded that Obama’s economic policies would benefit them more, and ignored the teaching authority of many bishops who explained that concerns about the economy do not justify a vote for a pro-abortion candidate."
ZENIT - What Happened to the Catholic Vote?

 

[California Girl]

Do I recall that the battleground state Ohio has lots of Catholics?

Think that's why Sebelius is putting off the requirement until after the election?

Won't make a hill of beans worth of difference when they do it. The Church will inform its members - all 69 million of us. This will cost Obama a serious number of Catholics.

Hope so....

"Q: An estimated 54% of Catholics voted for Barack Obama, despite the strong stand of over 50 heads of dioceses against candidates who support abortion. How did Obama successfully win the majority of the Catholic vote?

Burch: The notion of what constitutes the "Catholic vote" is widely debated. While Obama won the Catholic vote overall 54% - 45%, among Catholics who attend mass every week, McCain won 55% - 43%. Clearly the main reason Obama succeeded overall was the fact that Catholic voters echoed the concerns of the rest of the electorate in citing the economy as their top issue.

They concluded that Obama’s economic policies would benefit them more, and ignored the teaching authority of many bishops who explained that concerns about the economy do not justify a vote for a pro-abortion candidate."
ZENIT - What Happened to the Catholic Vote?

If he tries to force the Catholic Church to pay for birth control he's gonna lose a huge chunk of those voters. Considering there are 69 million Catholics in this country, you'd think he wouldn't want to pick a fight with us right now. But he's certainly entitled to try.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Catholic hospitals should close. All those Catholic institutions should close, fire all the employees. Put them all on unemployment.

This has nothing to do with who is using birth control, it is centered on who pays for birth control. This is nice brand new law, telling people that do not believe in birth control, that they must pay the bills of those who do.

This is a financial matter not a moral matter. I agree with the Church and I'm not Catholic.

 

[uscitizen]

Cheaper to pay for birth control than welfare.

 

[Unkotare]

the "court created" seperation of church and state.

Say what now?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Like the RNC was forcing their members to pay for abortion coverage?

They were?