there's a good al gore won florida whinefest a couple of threads over.
you should check it out; you'll fit right in.
And that has what to do with this thread?
Do you deny the OP statement?
i believe the tea party wants to take the govt back (whatever that means), and is willing to crush public sector unions to do it.
supporting unions is not a yardstick of one's patriotism, imo.
i think the OP is intellectually dishonest and i deny it.
State and local public sector unions should be permanently barred from striking AT A MINIMUM as are federal ones -and preferably banned entirely.
How can an elected official claim to represent the best interests of public union members -and the best interests of the people who PAY THOSE BILLS? It is a
major, MAJOR conflict of interest between two competing interests that are NOT the same whatsoever and those who get screwed by this SCAM are WE THE PEOPLE who will always get stuck with the tab. Public unions are ONLY concerned about the interests of their own union members and always will NO MATTER WHAT. No matter what. What is good enough for federal government employees (who cannot strike and the last time they tried they all got fired) is good enough for state and local ones as well. There is a reason previous Democrats repeatedly warned AGAINST the efforts of the left to unionize government employees and there is a reason modern Democrats ignored it, pushed it and wholeheartedly support it.
But public unions pit their interests against those of the people footing the bill -while Democrats run on the platform THEY have the best interests of these union members at heart and THEY represent their best interests. And because they are bought and sold by unions -THEY are correct. Which means they sure as hell cannot represent MY best interests as someone forced to foot those bills. When public unions threaten to go on strike, they are NOT striking against some jet-setting billionaire callous to the woes of his employees. They aren't striking against a governor who took an oath about doing what is in the state's best interests and not the unions. When public union employees go on strike, they are striking against US -the people who pay their salaries!
But this is the problem -IT AIN'T THEIR ******* GOVERNMENT and it isn't a business operation based on productivity and profit. But they have no problem holding it hostage anyway even if it means denying services to the people who actually PAY FOR IT ALL. For example -who pays for teachers' salaries and benefits packages? When they go on strike they are striking against every American who PAYS THEIR SALARY -and they have NO problem holding your kid's education hostage in the process. Oh they will rant and rave and act like they are striking against the politician who actually stands up to them -but their "boss" is NOT the governor or mayor or ANY elected official at all. Their boss isn't a politician at all -it is US! When they go on strike, they are striking against US! When they go on strike, it is US they intend to hurt and punish and it is US they want to see squealing in pain until WE give in to THEIR demands. That is what public unions do, it is what they intend to do and
causing US, the people who foot the bills PAIN AND HARM in as part of their extortion scheme to hijack OUR government and deny us the services WE pay for and hold it hostage to THEIR demands is just their way of US to all go **** ourselves and that while we get stuck with all the bills, government belongs to THEM and they claim a "right" to deny its services to WE THE PEOPLE who pay for it all. Best of all, they laugh all the way to bank every time someone blames some governor who actually does have the best interests of those footing the bills at heart instead of the extortionists. Teachers don't OWN my kid's education, they don't own my kid, they don't own me, they don't own the schools and they don't own government. This is NOT some group being preyed upon by some greedy capitalist being worked to the bone and near death in exchange for paltry wages that won't keep a cat alive! And if teachers decide they don't want to teach our kids for the going rate, its time for them to go find another ******* job that will pay them $40,000 for nine months of work with free health insurance and a pension for life -all at the expense of the rest of us, most of whom will not have the generous health insurance coverage OR the pension they still get stuck paying for.
Working in the public sector should be less financially rewarding because everyone in the private sector is paying that salary. It means removing a productive worker from the private sector and turning him into a parasite on the rest of us. And worst yet -unlike the private sector, HIS salary is not tied to his productivity or the revenue his work generates. Unlike the private sector, what it takes to get rid of an incompetent government employee is nearly insurmountable -it doesn't matter how crappy he does his job. The odds are he will get promoted and another raise, juicier pensions and benefits than the average person in the private sector who is stuck paying for it all!
I absolutely believe Democrats when it comes to who best represents their interests and EVERYONE else should too. Without a doubt. Absolutely Democrats have the best interests of public unions at heart and far more than Republicans. But let's ALWAYS keep in mind exactly what that REALLY means. While they openly curry favor with the unions, it is also an unambiguous announcement they will NOT represent the best interests of the rest of us -because that is impossible. These are COMPETING interests and Democrats have made it abundantly and repeatedly clear where they come down.
Consider just a few facts before cheering on public unions in their never ending quest to put the screws to the people who pay their salaries. Twice as many people (22.5 MILLION) work for government than work in all of manufacturing. More people work for government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities COMBINED. It is those who work in the PRIVATE sector who foot ALL the bills for government and everyone employed by government -and in reality among those in the private sector, only 51% of us are footing all those bills. 22.5 MILLION government employees -who in reality exist as TAKERS and parasites on the rest of us who foot the bills. Every additional person hired by government means the burden on the remaining dwindling numbers working the private sector who pay for it all has just increased again. It is a MAJOR reason why big, expanding government actually causes GREATER damage to an already damaged economy. It removes even MORE productive citizens who are the ones who actually pay for it all - and turns them into another parasite who will TAKE instead.
As for private sector unions, they are multi-billion dollar operations that earn tremendous revenue every year, much of it used to buy politicians, much of it used corruptly and without regard to the wishes of their members and which put up all resistance to an honest accounting and disclosure of where their money goes and for what purposes. Private sector unions should IMMEDIATELY lose their tax exempt status because their revenue exceeds the general budget of many states. They should be TAXED along with all other corporations.
In fact I sent emails to my Congressional representatives in both houses demanding that Congress rescind their tax exempt status as the profit making entities they really are -and force private sector unions to start
PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE! I urge everyone to do the same.
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