If you think Eli and Ben had equal careers Im not sure what to say. It's on the table that Ben will get in the HOF before Eli having retired 3 years after him. Ben has almost as many AFC Champ game appearances as Eli has PO berths....
I will also say that guys in those days couldn't deliver hits like they can today. Yes, more was allowed then, but today the guys are so big, fast, and strong, they can do a lot of damage. I've seen Brady get his head taken off. There is no way to say he couldn't have withstood it back then. Just like you can't say Unitas wouldn't thrive today if he trained as players do today. All you can do is compare how these guys did relative to their peers. But the modern game has to get the edge.well if he got rid of the cigs he could. dude i have seen footage,he was able to throw it 70 yards, in his early days for sure,he looked a lot like john elway who did that a lot,and being pile driven into the ground and tossed around like a ragdoll quarterbacks were back then ,no way in hell would brady agree to play the game under those circumstances,he went and whined like a baby to goddel to change the rules after the wuss went down from just a mere hit to the knee something unitas went through on weekly basis and thought nothing of.
If Unitas and the other quarterbacks that played that day could turn back the clock into their early 20's and get into a time machine and see how quarterbacks have skirts on them now,they would feel like they were in heaven and would throw for twice as many yards as they did having the luxary of playing with a skirt on as mahomes does and brady ESPECIALLY did.unitas=GOAT.
gipper as I have said a hundred times,the Real TRUE goat is Johnny Unitas.he is the gtreatest quarterback of all time,not Mahomes no matter what he does in the future and not Montana or brady.
When Montana started winning four superbowls they were calling him the greatest quarterback of all time which I thought was a joke back then the fact even though he played in an era tougher than what Mahomes and Brady played in where skirts have been put on quarterbacks,it still wasn’t as difficult as an era that Unitas played in.
It cant be debated thst Montana was better than both brady and Mahomes the fact he played in an era without skirts,he had so many injury’s because they were allowed to spear you back then.Mahomes and Brady are the best in their era but they are not even in the top 20 greatest of al time,I have owned wrongwinger on this because if they had to play in that era where Unitas played they would never agree to play the sport.
Back then you got tossed around like ragdogs,brady is the biggest wuss on the planet,he would not have lasted one season back then and neither would Mahomes.brady couldn’t even a take a mere hit to the knee without going down and missing an en entire year,then the wuss obviously went and whined to goddel to change the rules of hitting a quarterback after that.
Unitas is the goat and neither Montana,and especially brady or Mahomes could carry Unitas jockstrap back then.shit if Unitas could be reborn and play in this era starting in the early 2000s when quarterbacks started having skirts on them,he would feel like he was in heaven.
You cant say given today's training player A would be this that or the other. There's no way to know that. You have to take the player as they are and as he is Unitas couldnt compete in today's game. Too small, to slow.
Show me the numbers that say differently
you both make fair points.I have always said Brady was the GOAT of his ERA but to say of all time is just plain absurd and rediiclous the fact he never had to endure the kind of punishment quarterbacks had to back then on a weekly basis thrown around like ragdolls and piledriven into the ground. sure they are bigger and faster than they are back then,thats why brady had a skirt of him,he got special treatment none of the other quarterbacks ever got,players would complain the officials would tell them to get off brady after a hit.. a mere hit to the knee and going down for a whole year is WUSSVILLE which is WHY he would never have lasted one year back then or would ever agree to play in that era.
Brett Farve went through punishment FAR WORSE than brady did and only missed like two games his whole career and that was his last year when he was like 41 .Farve was tough,he WOULD agree to play in that era.he was as old school as they came and I never even liked farve for lying about retiring so many times but a mere hit to the knee to farve was NOTHING to him.didnt bother him a single bit. He was the ironman of football. He played around the same era Brady did and missed like just two games and a scrambling quarterback like farve is far more vulnerable to being hit that a pocket passer like brady is. I only bring farve up because he is a quarterback that played in the same era brady did.He had 2 good seasons. 2. 90% of his seasons he didn't win a PO game. Over 60% he didnt even make it. And if we are being completely honest those seasons werent all that great they just like I said caught lightning in a bottle and went on a run. Equating that to a sustained career of not only making the PO's but getting to Conference champ games is just lunacy. Almost 1/3 of Ben's Career he ended up in the Conference Champ game.
I am a 60 year Giants fan
I don't think you could find enough guys that old to make a team (although they couldn't be much worse).
Sorry man but Eli 100% got lucky to win those SB's. Rodgers has been throughout his career a choke artist in the PO's and Favre was well past his prime as a player at that point. The Giants were a 12.5-point dog in that game. It's fantasy land stuff putting Eli and Roethlisberger in the same tier of QB.
You are trying to parlay 2 SB runs into a career. PO wins and SB's are really important, and Eli deserves all the credit due for those runs. But you cant be bad every other year of your career which is what happened with Eli, and be on equal footing with a player who not only played better in the regular season but in the PO's as well and had far greater sustained success in the regular and post season. Subtract the 2 SB runs and he has zero PO wins 3 TD's and 7 picks in the POs. Eli had more (9) .500 or worse seasons than winning ones. Ben had 3. We are comparing careers as a whole not little snippets in time when they played well for a month. Eli had some great individual games/series of games but you're putting far too much weight on them whilst ignoring the long stretches of this career when was objectively not a very good QB.
Too many pesky facts like thst never register with our resident troll wrongwinger MarathonMike
Him and Mahomes would NEVER agree o play NFL football under those circumstances.brady especially.
