So Israel

[Stryder50]

I had a feeling you were still mad about the climate change debates. Lol

Not mad.
Just note it as the insight into your bias and mindset, mental defect.

 

[Anomalism]

Maybe because all the world's leaders don't have any better solutions? Or those better solutions don't benefit these world leaders personally? Maybe because we all have forgotten how to compromise and work together? There are myriad reasons to enter global war and scarce reasons not to.

I think people talk a lot of shit from the comfort of their air conditioned living rooms.

"Hey Siri. Start my fighting playlist."

 

[Anomalism]

Did I say catastrophic? Or just inevitable?

War is natural and serves a purpose just like forest fires. It kills off old growth and allows new growth to flourish. The key is surviving it and the key to that is having a strong military.

What kind of war are we talking about, if not catastrophic?

 

[Stryder50]

Did I say catastrophic? Or just inevitable?

War is natural and serves a purpose just like forest fires. It kills off old growth and allows new growth to flourish. The key is surviving it and the key to that is having a strong military.

IIRC it was Clausewitz who said;
"The purpose of war is a better peace."

Usually only works that way for one side, often the winner. Though the winner isn't always the starter.

 

[Billiejeens]

The government is giving away free abortions.
You keep asking dumb questions, I will provide proper insight. Maybe then, that lightbulb in your head will start to flicker.

Normal people see that my questions make you look foolish.
Now ya know.

 

[ding]

Seems to have stumped you. You still havent commented on the actual OP, despite all of your posts in thsi thread. Just justifying going in debt to pay other countries and gaslighting me for pointing out the obvious.

Sure I did. The reason we send aid to our allies in the Middle East is to protect our national security interests in a critical region of the world.

It's you who is being dishonest. You're a joke.

 

[ding]

Seems to have stumped you. You still havent commented on the actual OP, despite all of your posts in thsi thread. Just justifying going in debt to pay other countries and gaslighting me for pointing out the obvious.

I skip the fighting and go straight to winning.

 

[ding]

Yet here you are, constantly trying to get into conflict with me.
You have the awareness of a dead fly. And the real bad thing? Your like 70. Grow up.

Correcting your idiocy isn't seeking conflict. The reason the US sends aid to its allies in the Middle East is for protecting its national security in a critical region of the world.

 

[ding]

I guess ding is a Nazi too then, as he also limits who can rummage through his profile looking for ways to distract from whatever point he's trying to make in the moment.

I've been called worse. It's not that bad.

 

[ding]

I don't think the OP is without bias. I also don't think he's a bad or unreasonable person. I think there was real signal in what he said, and I tried to help bring it forward.

This thread was more about tweaking pro-lifers than it was about Israel. Look the other way if you have to.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm all ears.

Set me straight.

 

[ding]

Right, so my logic brain says that $1 is infinitely greater than absolute zero dollars. (Maybe stressing the math to make the point)

So, billions of Dollars at some point (with the above perspective) becomes a "massive" amount.

Not relative to the budget it's not. Nor is it a massive amount relative to what a military intervention would be.

 

[ding]

Maybe because all the world's leaders don't have any better solutions? Or those better solutions don't benefit these world leaders personally? Maybe because we all have forgotten how to compromise and work together? There are myriad reasons to enter global war and scarce reasons not to.

I think everyone is trying not to go to war. I just don't believe it can be avoided. I believe it's not a matter of if as much as when. And that I don't know.

 

[Stryder50]

Maybe because all the world's leaders don't have any better solutions? Or those better solutions don't benefit these world leaders personally? Maybe because we all have forgotten how to compromise and work together? There are myriad reasons to enter global war and scarce reasons not to.

Compromise usually means an equal give and take towards a middle point.
Unfortunately, too many consider compromise should be a largely one-way deal where one side gives more and the other takes more.
Which is why real compromise tends to be difficult to attain.

 

[Anomalism]

This thread was more about tweaking pro-lifers than it was about Israel. Look the other way if you have to.

I look the other way on a lot of things, you included. Humans are humans, limited as they are. Forgiving them for those limitations is the only reasonable position.

 

[ding]

I think people talk a lot of shit from the comfort of their air conditioned living rooms.

"Hey Siri. Start my fighting playlist."

And why do you believe that is? Why do people need to start fights?

 

[Chuz Life]

Not relative to the budget it's not. Nor is it a massive amount relative to what a military intervention would be.

I'm sure there are some benefits that I (we?) will never see. However, the kickbacks to the politicians who push for more and more money and other perks to Israel over shadows most if not all of the other benefits of our continuing support combined, in my humble opinion.

My opinion, which is probably only worth half of what you paid for it.

 

[Anomalism]

And why do you believe that is? Why do people need to start fights?

I think most people are full of shit. They use strong rhetoric to imply this or that, but in the end will be relying on somebody else to do the hard thing. That somebody else doesn't exist.

Life is too good now. I've got VR video games and pornography to indulge in.

Nobody is willing to give up their six pack and the superbowl to go dodge drones in the freezing cold.

 

[ding]

What kind of war are we talking about, if not catastrophic?

I guess that all depends on how you define catastrophic. Einstein said he did not know what weapons WWIII would be fought with but WWIV would be fought with sticks and stones.

I'm not that "pessimistic." I do think mankind will survive WWIII. That there will be a victor and that the victor will go on to flourish. Is that catastrophic? Or is it Darwinian?

 

[Anomalism]

I guess that all depends on how you define catastrophic. Einstein said he did not know what weapons WWIII would be fought with but WWIV would be fought with sticks and stones.

I'm not that "pessimistic." I do think mankind will survive WWIII. That there will be a victor and that the victor will go on to flourish. Is that catastrophic? Or is it Darwinian?

Optimism vs pessimism is a choice we all make in our lives. None of us actually possesses foresight.

I choose optimism.