So Israel

[ding]

We are clearly at an impasse. You agree with the official position on aid to Israel; I don't.

I can live with that.

It's actually more than that. You condone the gas lighting tactics of the OP. Be better.

 

[Stryder50]

I'm a Nazi? Lol

Okay.

Yup!
One of many clues;

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Also an enviro-Nazi.

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[Chuz Life]

Exactly. Who cares if we subsidize a country that does things you are supposedly against.
We sit here racking up debt, and in effect pay for abortions etc.
No biggie. After all, its only hypocrisy. And we all know you dont give 2 shits about that.

I can see you trying to rile the more religious extremists with this, but it won't work on those of us who oppose abortions for reasons other than a religious belief or basis. (in my observation)

It's much like IVF.

Life begins at conception, and those children in petri dishes are in fact the young, offspring, CHILDREN that are being "selectively reduced" and tossed in the trash every single ******* day.

Some of us are beyond the emotive outrage that you expect us to have on that.

We have the adult responsibility to see it for what it is and work through debate, enlightenment, education and policy changes to correct it.

That path inevitably results in millions if not billions of more children being denied and killed. . . but it is also the only way that will ever have staying power.

 

[Anomalism]

Yup!
One of many clues;

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Also an enviro-Nazi.

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I guess ding is a Nazi too then, as he also limits who can rummage through his profile looking for ways to distract from whatever point he's trying to make in the moment.

 

[ding]

Thats exactly the type of thing that happens.

Yes, I agree. Atheists make more moral arguments than Billy Graham.

 

[Anomalism]

It's actually more than that. You condone the gas lighting tactics of the OP. Be better.

I don't think the OP is without bias. I also don't think he's a bad or unreasonable person. I think there was real signal in what he said, and I tried to help bring it forward.

 

[ding]

Im not sorry if that triggers you, pagan.

You can tell when someone is triggered by how they create gas lighting threads like this one.

 

[Stryder50]

Trump said **** you for being responsible for obama spying on him.
You sure do say a lot of dumb, illogical shit to be "logical"

You've been gazing in the mirror again, we see.
Your projection is strong.

FWIW; my position on abortion is that it excludes a vote from the father and the fetus. Also it disrupts the plan of the soul of that fetus to incarnate in that body. However, that soul will have option to select another body/fetus and retry.

 

[ding]

Is that drop in the bucket more or less than what is going towards paying down the national debt?

I'm not aware of any money that is paying down the debt.

 

[Anomalism]

I can see you trying to rile the more religious extremists with this, but it won't work on those of us who oppose abortions for reasons other than a religious belief or basis. (in my observation)

It's much like IVF.

Life begins at conception, and those children in petri dishes are in fact the young, offspring, CHILDREN that are being "selectively reduced" and tossed in the trash every single ******* day.

Some of us are beyond the emotive outrage that you expect us to have on that.

We have the adult responsibility to see it for what it is and work through debate, enlightenment, education and policy changes to correct it.

That path inevitably results in millions if not billions of more children being denied and killed. . . but it is also the only way that will ever have staying power.

Abortion is easily the most complicated issue in politics. You will probably never see me take a clear stance.

 

[ding]

I will take that compliment.

It's better than being a militant atheist.

 

[ding]

The protection pact is 100% of the reason why nobody tries to invade them. We don't need to send aid as well.

The US State Department disagrees.

 

[Stryder50]

I guess ding is a Nazi too then, as he also limits who can rummage through his profile looking for ways to distract from whatever point he's trying to make in the moment.

I didn't claim everyone who does such is a Nazi.
It does suggest less than openness and that someone may be hiding something.
Your enviro-Nazi positions are what sync it for me.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm not aware of any money that is paying down the debt.

Right, so my logic brain says that $1 is infinitely greater than absolute zero dollars. (Maybe stressing the math to make the point)

So, billions of Dollars at some point (with the above perspective) becomes a "massive" amount.

 

[Stryder50]

The protection pact is 100% of the reason why nobody tries to invade them. We don't need to send aid as well.

Seems Hamas, and it's backer Iran, didn't get that memo.
Hence events of October 7, 2024 ~ which seems you support.

 

[Anomalism]

The US State Department disagrees.

True.

 

[Anomalism]

I didn't claim everyone who does such is a Nazi.
It does suggest less than openness and that someone may be hiding something.
Your enviro-Nazi positions are what sync it for me.

I had a feeling you were still mad about the climate change debates. Lol

 

[Dorian Mode]

Why is catastrophic world war inevitable?

Maybe because all the world's leaders don't have any better solutions? Or those better solutions don't benefit these world leaders personally? Maybe because we all have forgotten how to compromise and work together? There are myriad reasons to enter global war and scarce reasons not to.

 

[ding]

Why is catastrophic world war inevitable?

Did I say catastrophic? Or just inevitable?

War is natural and serves a purpose just like forest fires. It kills off old growth and allows new growth to flourish. The key is surviving it and the key to that is having a strong military.

 

[Chuz Life]

Abortion is easily the most complicated issue in politics. You will probably never see me take a clear stance.

I don't agree that the abortion issue is inherently complicated.

The biology is simple.

The principles in the Constitution are simple.

The existing legal definitions are simple.

Complexities only exist on the issue of abortion because intellectually dishonest, biased, agenda-driven bottom feeders deliberately try to make it so.