So i been wondering

[Yarddog]

I hate to say this because I know the intentions are good, but there is a bigger issue at stake here.

Central to the conservative mindset is small and limited government. The last thing anyone needs is another government intrusion into their lives, yet unfortunately, this is exactly the thing the Right has been buffaloed into supporting.

Yeah, I know, it sounds like a good idea, but the government has no right telling people what they can eat. I know some people eat too much junk shit, then, the government should just take junk food off the shelves for everyone.

Are you ready to give up cola, sweetened drinks, cake, ice cream, all deserts, and candy? You have to know that once started, more and more will only be added to the list.

This is an insidious form of discrimination. The truth is, there are many sick and disabled people who can barely get around, cannot cook, and depend on packaged and processed food to get by on.

Encourage people to eat better, help or offer people to get on nutrition programs, but please keep the government out of my kitchen. You see, by doing this, you have only moved government one step closer to telling YOU what you can buy and eat.

But, Toob--- these people can still buy this junk with their own money! Not everyone on food stamps is on welfare, and if these people had money, they would not need food stamps or welfare.

The real goal here is really just to cut down on benefits because what will really happen in that a lot of people will just end up buying less food and the state will pocket the savings.

It's not a bad point you make, but It could even go a long way if these food companies were required simply to use real sugar instead of HFCS, which is a terrible thing to pump into the bodies of little children who have no choice of what thier parents buy for them.

 

[toobfreak]

Using your logic

You obviously know little about logic and even less about my opinion, so are inventing leaps of illogic trying to muddy a very simple issue which shows you don't even understand how this violates the very precepts of what this country was founded on to stand for, and all to do something which won't even accomplish the stated intent.

 

[Yarddog]

So i wuz thinking ...which can be dangerous according to the left
How long will it take the rocket scientist on EBT cards to figure out and that you can still go into that baking aisle and buy everything you need to make cakes pies probably candy too what about the baker's chocolate is that banned

I like lime soda I've been drinking seltzer water and flavoring it for years and adding a little sugar it's a little healthier than Coke
I do love me some Fresca ..they make a less sweet version ...or they used to

It's grapefruit I make my own the way I like it less sweet
I like less sweet
I'm in the South there's nothing I can do... they love them some sugar. if I want a less sweet cheesecake I have to make it myself

They don't have jobs you can find a minute to bake something ...
Bake a f****** apple pie

The people this girl has shown in the video are complete idiots, never seen anything like them.

 

[toobfreak]

This is a modification of an existing program for the poor.........

Fine, whatever. That is meaningless. Hitler could have said the same things about his regime over the standard government--- Nazism was just a "modification" of the existing lawbase, that didn't make it right. The issue is that it is a pointless and illegal modification which does the very opposite of everything we were founded on to prevent which grows government, shrinks individual liberty, sets the foundation to keep doing more of it to more people, and won't even accomplish the stated intent and you are falling for it.

In the end, a person will still get X amount of money for food each month, the government will still spend the same X amount of money per recipient, and each SNAP recipient will still spend X each month on food. Nothing will change, except that companies will lose billions in revenue and a lot of people will tell themselves this all really accomplished something via more mental masturbation, except now, government will be bigger and have more domination over all of our individual rights.

 

[toobfreak]

It's not a bad point you make, but It could even go a long way if these food companies were required simply to use real sugar instead of HFCS, which is a terrible thing to pump into the bodies of little children who have no choice of what thier parents buy for them.

BINGO. The FDA sucks and like everything else, the government has promoted too much fake food in the name of appeasing government lobbyists all for the almighty dollar.

Instead of using authoritarian tactics to attack the poor just for political show, what the government really OUGHT to be doing is making food better and encouraging better eating in ALL of us.

Interestingly, if you go to Europe, there is much less junk food, and when they do have it, most of it comes from the USA.

But I know: it is so easy and convenient instead to just attack and blame poor people.

 

[Maxdeath]

**** that, you are just rationalizing. Don't want people to drink sodas, eat junk food. Then ban the shit outright. I mean are you telling me you only care about the health of poor people using EBT? How damn funny. I mean here is a thought. No more social security checks, instead you get a debit card. Of course, you can't buy soft drinks, little Debbie cakes, chips. Nope, ain't good for you. And you can pay your power bill, but cable, no, not really necessary. Let's go ahead and cut that out as well. Cell phones, lets go ahead and put a cap on that, twenty bucks seems about right, get a flip phone. No need for the government to give you money to buy a smartphone. That work for you?

You seem to be doing an awful lot of rationalizing but you do crazy all you want. I have not had cable since smart TVs. Don’t buy soda or little Debbie’s. Use my bank debit card for everything, have maybe $20.00 in my wallet if that. You may not realize it but people and there by the government have been controlling your life since you were born. Think you went to school because you wanted to? Think you have ID because it makes you feel good?

 

[Maxdeath]

You obviously know little about logic and even less about my opinion, so are inventing leaps of illogic trying to muddy a very simple issue which shows you don't even understand how this violates the very precepts of what this country was founded on to stand for, and all to do something which won't even accomplish the stated intent.

Look I get it you don’t care about logic, people or anything or any one else, your opinion is all that matters. Good on you.
The fact remains that the government has been making making decisions for you every second of your life. I do not know about you but school lunches made choices what I could eat. The chow hall made decisions on what I could eat. The government has made decisions on how bread, meat and almost everything you eat is made.
Myself I hope at least one child is allowed to eat healthier instead of being pumped full of sweets. Maybe that child will stay out of the hospital a little less.
You could care less if anyone lives or dies and the more miserable life or death the better.

 

[gtopa1]

The government can tell me all they want I don't have to do their silly shit. As far as food quality, that should be a government function and is already.

Example: I like Coca Cola but do not like the high fructose corn syrup. They use it because it's more economical as do a lot of sugary drinks. I'm with Kennedy, When I buy sugar I want sugar, not some chemically enhanced shit. Mexican coke has real sugar in it. Much better, not so sickeningly sweet.

6 Reasons Why High-Fructose Corn Syrup Is Bad for You

High-fructose corn syrup has been linked to today's obesity epidemic and many other serious health issues. Learn why it's bad for your healt

www.healthline.com

Eating 'better' means different things to different people. I know some guys eating a Paleo (all meat) diet. I know some (mostly women) preferring more of a vegetarian type meal. Eating styles can be highly cultural as well.

Also in Oz; REAL Cane SUGAR in our Coca Cola.

Greg

 

[toobfreak]

I do not know about you but school lunches made choices what I could eat. The chow hall made decisions on what I could eat. The government has made decisions on how bread, meat and almost everything you eat is made.

**** you and your idiotic rationalizations. So basically, your reasoning is that since government already has some control over people's lives, you are ready to lay down and just give them even more.

Start with the helpless and defenseless over something totally pointless and hopefully, you'll be dead before they come full circle back to you, right?

Then it will be someone else's problem.

 

[braalian]

Do we really need multiple thread on this topic?

 

[Maxdeath]

**** you and your idiotic rationalizations. So basically, your reasoning is that since government already has some control over people's lives, you are ready to lay down and just give them even more.

Start with the helpless and defenseless over something totally pointless and hopefully, you'll be dead before they come full circle back to you, right?

Then it will be someone else's problem.

Son, you really are all in on government bad, government will rule over us worse then Orell’s 1994.
Do you check under your bed each night for government agents? Do you check the house daily for bugs.
My assertion is no one is coming to get you just because we want children to learn healthier eating habits. If some people loose a few pounds or don’t have to deal with diabetes as bad. That is not earth shaking.
I could go calling names but I think it shows a bit more maturity not to.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Fine, whatever. That is meaningless. Hitler could have said the same things about his regime over the standard government--- Nazism was just a "modification" of the existing lawbase, that didn't make it right. The issue is that it is a pointless and illegal modification which does the very opposite of everything we were founded on to prevent which grows government, shrinks individual liberty, sets the foundation to keep doing more of it to more people, and won't even accomplish the stated intent and you are falling for it.

In the end, a person will still get X amount of money for food each month, the government will still spend the same X amount of money per recipient, and each SNAP recipient will still spend X each month on food. Nothing will change, except that companies will lose billions in revenue and a lot of people will tell themselves this all really accomplished something via more mental masturbation, except now, government will be bigger and have more domination over all of our individual rights.

Meh
I said I respectfully disagree thebother day

On federal ,state ,and local levels the government encourages crime ,bad behavior, irresponsible Behavior, in schools and everywhere blah blah blah

It's everywhere you turn
Kennedy encourages something healthy and they lose their minds


Ebt pepsi =freedom...lol ....nope

 

[toobfreak]

On federal ,state ,and local levels the government encourages crime ,bad behavior, irresponsible Behavior, in schools and everywhere blah blah blah It's everywhere you turn

It just occurred to me earlier:

1. When I was a kid, we all went Trick or Treating. We loved candy bars. So how will mothers give out candy on Halloween if they are on SNAP?
2. How will kids GET candy if they live in a project where most people are on welfare and snap programs?
3. I wonder how government workers passing stupid laws would like living in a house full of kids and have to tell them No Halloween and no candy, no pop, no deserts, no cake, no pies, no sweets, no nothing?
4. Can you imagine the emotional damage this will wreak on families? Imagine the contlict and loss of face children will have for their father who cannot give them a simple candy bar or cup of soda?
5. Seems a strange solution that probably the greatest victim of the stupid no-pop rule will be the most innocent and blameless among us--- the children.

I'm just waiting now for some pinhead to show up to tell me that it will just be good for the kids, yet they would never dare try it on their own children.

They can always tell their kids that the nation was OK with giving away hundreds of billions every year to foreign nations around the globe for better contraception practices and gay rights but chose to tighten our belts on wasteful spending by denying millions of children probably the one thing in the world they most want and like, and what every human being deserves: the dignity and quality of life to be able to have a simple sweet snack or drink once and a while when they want one.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Bake

It just occurred to me earlier:

1. When I was a kid, we all went Trick or Treating. We loved candy bars. So how will mothers give out candy on Halloween if they are on SNAP?
2. How will kids GET candy if they live in a project where most people are on welfare and snap programs?
3. I wonder how government workers passing stupid laws would like living in a house full of kids and have to tell them No Halloween and no candy, no pop, no deserts, no cake, no pies, no sweets, no nothing?
4. Can you imagine the emotional damage this will wreak on families? Imagine the contlict and loss of face children will have for their father who cannot give them a simple candy bar or cup of soda?
5. Seems a strange solution that probably the greatest victim of the stupid no-pop rule will be the most innocent and blameless among us--- the children.

I'm just waiting now for some pinhead to show up to tell me that it will just be good for the kids, yet they would never dare try it on their own children.

They can always tell their kids that the nation was OK with giving away hundreds of billions every year to foreign nations around the globe for better contraception practices and gay rights but chose to tighten our belts on wasteful spending by denying millions of children probably the one thing in the world they most want and like, and what every human being deserves: the dignity and quality of life to be able to have a simple sweet snack or drink once and a while when they want one.

Doesn't the government encourage women black or white to stay single have 19 baby and collect EBT... it's baked into the system no buying a ebt Pepsi is fascist

I saw a video of a black woman the other night she had nine kids and triplets on the way.... cuz she was doing videos running her mouth and they cut her off ....but who encouraged her to go that route in the first place.... just about everything around her and the people who are supposedly there to help her in the bureaucracy pffft

No ebt Pepsi a problem
Are ya sure

 

[toobfreak]

I saw a video of a black woman the other night she had nine kids and triplets on the way....

I imagine that being on Welfare living in a project, you have little else to do but sleeping around having kids. Besides, the government rewards them for having kids. BIG financial incentive.