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So Far Germany Seeing Coldest April In 104 Years, Second Coldest Since 1881, Snowiest Since 1986

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Dude. I've been waiting 50 yrs since a kid. When is the New Ice Age coming?

Ask your denier pals. They're the ones who have been predicting "ICE AGE ANY DAY NOW" non-stop for 50 years running. Meanwhile, the climate scientists were correctly predicting warming over that same era.

That's why climate scientists have such credibility, that stunning record of success spanning decades. And it's why deniers are considered jokes -- they've been faceplanting with every prediction for 50 years now.
Wanna talk about predictions "faceplanting"?

 

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No, it doesn't. Only through the magic of computer models is that happening. The reality is the opposite.

Meanwhile, back in reality, we directly measure the strong warming with these arcane devices called "thermometers".

So according to Westwall, thermometers are really computer models.

It's cute that he expects not to be laughed at.
Let's see the data..............
 

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Only 10 more years until AGW doomsday.


It’s been a really frosty April this year across Central Europe. Germany so far has seen it’s second coldest April since records began in 1881...
Coldest since 1917..
April across much of Europe has been unusually cold, frosty and even snowy, and the media have been awfully quiet about it. The following chart shows the mean temperature anomalies with respect to the 1991-2020 reference period so far (up through April 17):..
With a mean temperature of 4.5°C for Germany, April so far continues to be the second coldest since 1881, according to German DWD national weather service records. Only 1917 was colder at a mean of 4.3°C...
Another cold blast forecast for next weekend..
And it likely isn’t going to change too much, as the ECMWF model is forecasting yet another unusual April cold wave with snow and frost for next week. A warm up is forecast near the end of the month, but that is still some 10 days out..
Most snowy April in 35 years..
One thing is already certain: For Germans, it will be the most snowy April since 1986..
The WO/GFS forecasts (left and right) see a continuation of the April winter with widespread ground frost from April 23. Extremely cold air with up to -12°C deviations from the old WMO climate mean 1981-2010 over Germany is projected on April 26 at 850 hPa. Sources: WO/GFS forecasts Tmin ground Germany and WZ/GEM forecasts TA850 Europe..
Northern hemisphere cooling continues...

Lets be clear...

There are more scientists who say that the earth is flat than say it is not warming....

There is clear evidence that the Earth is warming, even the Man-made Climate Change deniers agree the earth is warming...

Picking a cold month in Germany won't change that... First we have to explain the difference between weather and climate...
There are more scientists who say that the earth is flat than say it is not warming....

Link?

Here's a link for ya..............kinda old, so there may be more now. 30,000 Scientists sign petition calling MMGW bullshit.

You got 30,001 scientists who claim the Earth is flat? Surely you are a lying sack of shit.


 

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How much is it rising?

+0.19C/decade. Just like the models predicted. Remarkable, eh?

What data, and from whom, are you using?

NASA GISS, HadCrut, Australian BoM, NMIJ -- it doesn't matter what surface temperature dataset you use, they all say the same thing.

Then tell us how much extra it is warming over what would be normal coming out of a little ice age.

110%

The LIA was totally over by 1850. Natural cycles want to cause a very slow cooling trend now. Instead, we're seeing fast warming, the opposite of the natural cycle. That would indicate that the warming is not natural.

GO!

(this is always fun)

Indeed. this is where, upon learing that all the data contradicts your religion, you declare that all the data is really a VastSecretGlobalSocialistPlot.

GO!
 

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Let's see the data..............

You want the data explaining how thermometers are used to measure temperature?

You got 30,001 scientists who claim the Earth is flat? Surely you are a lying sack of shit.

Most of those cranks aren't scientists at all, much less climate scientists. I am much more informed on the topic than almost all of them. That's not a brag, it's a statement of fact. It's not that I'm especially brilliant. It's that they're especially stupid on this topic.

What does it say about you, that you resorted to such fraud?
 

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Dude. I've been waiting 50 yrs since a kid. When is the New Ice Age coming?

Ask your denier pals. They're the ones who have been predicting "ICE AGE ANY DAY NOW" non-stop for 50 years running. Meanwhile, the climate scientists were correctly predicting warming over that same era.

That's why climate scientists have such credibility, that stunning record of success spanning decades. And it's why deniers are considered jokes -- they've been faceplanting with every prediction for 50 years now.
Wanna talk about predictions "faceplanting"?

I always love to bring up this up when appropriate

 

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How much is it rising?

+0.19C/decade. Just like the models predicted. Remarkable, eh?

What data, and from whom, are you using?

NASA GISS, HadCrut, Australian BoM, NMIJ -- it doesn't matter what surface temperature dataset you use, they all say the same thing.

Then tell us how much extra it is warming over what would be normal coming out of a little ice age.

110%

The LIA was totally over by 1850. Natural cycles want to cause a very slow cooling trend now. Instead, we're seeing fast warming, the opposite of the natural cycle. That would indicate that the warming is not natural.

GO!

(this is always fun)

Indeed. this is where, upon learing that all the data contradicts your religion, you declare that all the data is really a VastSecretGlobalSocialistPlot.

GO!
Funny how you have no link, huh?

:oops8:
 

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Let's see the data..............

You want the data explaining how thermometers are used to measure temperature?

You got 30,001 scientists who claim the Earth is flat? Surely you are a lying sack of shit.

Most of those cranks aren't scientists at all, much less climate scientists. I am much more informed on the topic than almost all of them. That's not a brag, it's a statement of fact. It's not that I'm especially brilliant. It's that they're especially stupid on this topic.

What does it say about you, that you resorted to such fraud?
No Dumbass. Do you not know what data is?

Also weird how you can't list YOUR 'scientists" like I did, huh?

IIRC Owlgore got a journalism degree. Doesn't say much about your Cult when your Messiah has a shit journalism degree.:laughing0301::itsok:
 

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Funny how you have no link, huh?

The way I don't bother supplying links talking about the round earth obviously proves the earth is flat. Oh wait, it doesn't. People are expected to know the basics. You know nothing.

Now, I could post links to everything. And you'd just claim it was all a conspiracy, so it would be a waste of time. I hope you don't embarrass yourself by denying that.

No Dumbass. Do you not know what data is?

It's that stuff you've never viewed in your life.

Also weird how you can't list YOUR 'scientists" like I did, huh?

You switched to power-whining quicker than most do.

IIRC Owlgore got a journalism degree.

Gore Rule invoked. Any time someone raves about Gore instead of talking about the topic, he forfeits the thread for his side. Those who can, talk about the sceince, do. Those who can't, they deflect by talking about politicians.

Oh, Gore is also sooooo 2000's. Get with the decade.

Thanks for playing, and we have some lovely parting gifts for you, including our USMB Home Game.
 

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Pollution is bad. We need less of it. Whether having more or less of it affects the temperature doesn't change that pollution is bad.
CO2 is not pollution, moron. Plants need it to live.

I didn't say a word about carbon. I would insult you right back, but God already took care of that making you British.
If you're talking about AGW, and that controlling it has something to do with "pollution," then you are talking about CO2.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Pollution is bad. Pretending it isn't is willful ignorance.
So is cancer. I don’t see anyone pretending either isn’t.
So is COVID and a lot of people pretend it isn't either.
 

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Pollution is bad. We need less of it. Whether having more or less of it affects the temperature doesn't change that pollution is bad.





This is correct. Unfortunately the climate change fraud takes valuable resources away from programs that deal with actual pollution.

Likewise, many climate change deniers think that denying climate change is all they need to do. It is a shame that the GOP has purged any semblance of a rational conservationist plank from their agenda.
 
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It’s been a really frosty April this year across Central Europe. Germany so far has seen it’s second coldest April since records began in 1881...
Coldest since 1917..
April across much of Europe has been unusually cold, frosty and even snowy, and the media have been awfully quiet about it. The following chart shows the mean temperature anomalies with respect to the 1991-2020 reference period so far (up through April 17):..
With a mean temperature of 4.5°C for Germany, April so far continues to be the second coldest since 1881, according to German DWD national weather service records. Only 1917 was colder at a mean of 4.3°C...
Another cold blast forecast for next weekend..
And it likely isn’t going to change too much, as the ECMWF model is forecasting yet another unusual April cold wave with snow and frost for next week. A warm up is forecast near the end of the month, but that is still some 10 days out..
Most snowy April in 35 years..
One thing is already certain: For Germans, it will be the most snowy April since 1986..
The WO/GFS forecasts (left and right) see a continuation of the April winter with widespread ground frost from April 23. Extremely cold air with up to -12°C deviations from the old WMO climate mean 1981-2010 over Germany is projected on April 26 at 850 hPa. Sources: WO/GFS forecasts Tmin ground Germany and WZ/GEM forecasts TA850 Europe..
Northern hemisphere cooling continues...

And?

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Your links resolve to nothing.
Record heat on the American west coast.
That's weather, not climate change.
As is a cold april in germany.

Derp!!
No, when it's cold it's climate change. When it's hot, it's weather.
Wrong-O!!!

When it's the third "100 year cold snap" in 20 years it's climate change.
We're headed for an ice age?
Where did you get that idea?

From you, moron:

"When it's the third "100 year cold snap" in 20 years it's climate change."
 
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Pollution is bad. We need less of it. Whether having more or less of it affects the temperature doesn't change that pollution is bad.





This is correct. Unfortunately the climate change fraud takes valuable resources away from programs that deal with actual pollution.

Likewise, many climate change deniers think that denying climate change is all they need to do. It is a shame that the GOP has purged any semblance of a rational conservationist plank from their agenda.
Yes, that is all we need to do when climate change cultist present no evidence.
 
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No, it doesn't. Only through the magic of computer models is that happening. The reality is the opposite.

Meanwhile, back in reality, we directly measure the strong warming with these arcane devices called "thermometers".

So according to Westwall, thermometers are really computer models.

It's cute that he expects not to be laughed at.
Nope.
 
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Dude. I've been waiting 50 yrs since a kid. When is the New Ice Age coming?

Ask your denier pals. They're the ones who have been predicting "ICE AGE ANY DAY NOW" non-stop for 50 years running. Meanwhile, the climate scientists were correctly predicting warming over that same era.

That's why climate scientists have such credibility, that stunning record of success spanning decades. And it's why deniers are considered jokes -- they've been faceplanting with every prediction for 50 years now.
Wanna talk about predictions "faceplanting"?

Every prediction the AGW Chicken Littles have made has fallen flat on its face.
 
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Funny how you have no link, huh?

The way I don't bother supplying links talking about the round earth obviously proves the earth is flat. Oh wait, it doesn't. People are expected to know the basics. You know nothing.

Now, I could post links to everything. And you'd just claim it was all a conspiracy, so it would be a waste of time. I hope you don't embarrass yourself by denying that.

No Dumbass. Do you not know what data is?

It's that stuff you've never viewed in your life.

Also weird how you can't list YOUR 'scientists" like I did, huh?

You switched to power-whining quicker than most do.

IIRC Owlgore got a journalism degree.

Gore Rule invoked. Any time someone raves about Gore instead of talking about the topic, he forfeits the thread for his side. Those who can, talk about the sceince, do. Those who can't, they deflect by talking about politicians.

Oh, Gore is also sooooo 2000's. Get with the decade.

Thanks for playing, and we have some lovely parting gifts for you, including our USMB Home Game.
The so-called "Gore rule" is the one the AGW cultists invented so they don't have to take responsibility for all their failed predictions.

No dice, moron.
 

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Funny how you have no link, huh?

The way I don't bother supplying links talking about the round earth obviously proves the earth is flat. Oh wait, it doesn't. People are expected to know the basics. You know nothing.

Now, I could post links to everything. And you'd just claim it was all a conspiracy, so it would be a waste of time. I hope you don't embarrass yourself by denying that.

No Dumbass. Do you not know what data is?

It's that stuff you've never viewed in your life.

Also weird how you can't list YOUR 'scientists" like I did, huh?

You switched to power-whining quicker than most do.

IIRC Owlgore got a journalism degree.

Gore Rule invoked. Any time someone raves about Gore instead of talking about the topic, he forfeits the thread for his side. Those who can, talk about the sceince, do. Those who can't, they deflect by talking about politicians.

Oh, Gore is also sooooo 2000's. Get with the decade.

Thanks for playing, and we have some lovely parting gifts for you, including our USMB Home Game.
You remember how funny this was?

You people are so fucking stupid it is hurting me now.
 

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It’s been a really frosty April this year across Central Europe. Germany so far has seen it’s second coldest April since records began in 1881...
Coldest since 1917..
April across much of Europe has been unusually cold, frosty and even snowy, and the media have been awfully quiet about it. The following chart shows the mean temperature anomalies with respect to the 1991-2020 reference period so far (up through April 17):..
With a mean temperature of 4.5°C for Germany, April so far continues to be the second coldest since 1881, according to German DWD national weather service records. Only 1917 was colder at a mean of 4.3°C...
Another cold blast forecast for next weekend..
And it likely isn’t going to change too much, as the ECMWF model is forecasting yet another unusual April cold wave with snow and frost for next week. A warm up is forecast near the end of the month, but that is still some 10 days out..
Most snowy April in 35 years..
One thing is already certain: For Germans, it will be the most snowy April since 1986..
The WO/GFS forecasts (left and right) see a continuation of the April winter with widespread ground frost from April 23. Extremely cold air with up to -12°C deviations from the old WMO climate mean 1981-2010 over Germany is projected on April 26 at 850 hPa. Sources: WO/GFS forecasts Tmin ground Germany and WZ/GEM forecasts TA850 Europe..
Northern hemisphere cooling continues...

Lets be clear...

There are more scientists who say that the earth is flat than say it is not warming....

There is clear evidence that the Earth is warming, even the Man-made Climate Change deniers agree the earth is warming...

Picking a cold month in Germany won't change that... First we have to explain the difference between weather and climate...






This is a lie.
 

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Only 10 more years until AGW doomsday.


It’s been a really frosty April this year across Central Europe. Germany so far has seen it’s second coldest April since records began in 1881...
Coldest since 1917..
April across much of Europe has been unusually cold, frosty and even snowy, and the media have been awfully quiet about it. The following chart shows the mean temperature anomalies with respect to the 1991-2020 reference period so far (up through April 17):..
With a mean temperature of 4.5°C for Germany, April so far continues to be the second coldest since 1881, according to German DWD national weather service records. Only 1917 was colder at a mean of 4.3°C...
Another cold blast forecast for next weekend..
And it likely isn’t going to change too much, as the ECMWF model is forecasting yet another unusual April cold wave with snow and frost for next week. A warm up is forecast near the end of the month, but that is still some 10 days out..
Most snowy April in 35 years..
One thing is already certain: For Germans, it will be the most snowy April since 1986..
The WO/GFS forecasts (left and right) see a continuation of the April winter with widespread ground frost from April 23. Extremely cold air with up to -12°C deviations from the old WMO climate mean 1981-2010 over Germany is projected on April 26 at 850 hPa. Sources: WO/GFS forecasts Tmin ground Germany and WZ/GEM forecasts TA850 Europe..
Northern hemisphere cooling continues...

Lets be clear...

There are more scientists who say that the earth is flat than say it is not warming....

There is clear evidence that the Earth is warming, even the Man-made Climate Change deniers agree the earth is warming...

Picking a cold month in Germany won't change that... First we have to explain the difference between weather and climate...






This is a lie.

Both at 3% among general scientists....

This is not man made global warming but "Is the Global warming?"

This is a reported by NASA every year...

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This is to call numerous agencies liars without any evidence... This conspiracy theory is so unplausable that flat earth seems about the same likelihood..
 

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Every prediction the AGW Chicken Littles have made has fallen flat on its face.

As I know the actual science, therefore I know with 100% certainbty that you're lying there. You can only gaslight your fellow cultists. It just doesn't work on normal people.

So, why do you all lie?

You lie for the glory of fascism.

You lie because all the other cultists are lying, and sheep always bleat along with the herd.

And you lie because it gives you a sick pervy thrill.

And what's with the Hitler-love in your sig? Do you even understand that most people _don't_ like Nazis? You deniers all need to to understand that your cult's open embrace of fascism is _not_ normal.
 

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