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S/3 ep 2

Clark couldn’t kill his dad. I knew John was safe.

So it looks like lionel had the blood vial, hired someone to steal it, but it also involved lex’s wife. Confusing.

Oh, that was a great effect. The door closing, exposing lana crying several times. I’ve never seen that done. Brilliant writing. And she’s done with clark hurting her. Clark understands.

Oh my, clark goes into red ring behavior without the ring, is he changing? Again, you are right; he was acting.

Lex forgives her? No, he does tit for tat on the plane. I would have liked watching her fall off the plane. We now see just how conniving Lex can be. Trusting his intentions in the future will be difficult.

A truce with lionel. I suspect karma is catching up with old dad. Lol and what is this thing with the life insurance priority.

The bad guys that knew about the blood vial. It is as if lionel is protecting clark then holding it over his head.

Its over with lana and clark. Looks permanent.

And lex saves the farm. He only asks that he be part of the family. What is in it for him?


S3 ep3

Lex appears to be questioning if the meteorite affected him. He questions childhood illnesses openly with his dad. It is odd because he’s been keeping a secret room with files of strange happenings since the meteorite shower, including a space ship. So we assume he is a freak but we haven’t seen his powers. He also pretends to be Clark’s friend but is actively investigating him. His agenda isn’t clear at this point but we have seen clear signs that he may not be as caring as he seems.

Lana saves Clark. Nice moves. Later when she tells Clark she is relieved that the meteorite hadn’t hit, that all would be alright in Smallville, he understands he must stay away. He would never want to hurt her. He is the reason her parents got killed so he declines being romantically involved with her.

I know what your point of view will be—his caring parents. I look forward to hearing it.

finishing the conclusion to season 3 episode 1 with season 3 episode 2.

yeah even though the red ring changes clark completely,he cant kill anybody,had lex put the ring on and it affected him the same way it does clark,it would have been a different story,same with lionel.

interesting second paragraph there you menioned.

good thing for clark he was able to burn up that truck and turn the tables on the guy who kidnapped him otherwise his secret would have been exposed to Lionle,whew that was a close call.great shootout on the dock,really exciting.

was really cool seeing Lana demonstrate her fighting skills kicking that guy in the barn and helping them escape.one of the more exciting moments for me in the episode.

Martha in the conclusion to episode one,once AGAIN this episode gave her an excellent opportunity to show off her acting chops AGAIN when clark comes home at the start of the show and hugs her and crys out "clark" and he says "mom" and she then starts crying,gave me goosebumps it was such a touching moment,very well done scene,

we get an idea how evil Lionel really is in this episode when he is on the docks and they are talking about bodies being buried.without them saying Lionel is a murderer,it gives you a hint he MIGHT be one. i mean why else talk about bodies being buried there?

once again,clark is left having to explain himself to everybody his horrible behaviour towards people especially Lana and chloe,poor clark,not able to come out and tell the truth why he acted that way.

Lana has clearly had enough of clark. well done Lana,who can blame her? she has put up and taken so much shit from clark the last couple years,that enough is enough,everybody has their breaking point where they have to at some point lay down the law and say-okay i have tolerated your shit for years now and i have been patient with you,no more,enough is enough,im done with you.

good move Lana. this year their junior year they are obviously just going to be friends now. as you said,clark understands.

this episode totally sets the tone for an exciting excellent season 3.

 

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S3 ep3

Lex appears to be questioning if the meteorite affected him. He questions childhood illnesses openly with his dad. It is odd because he’s been keeping a secret room with files of strange happenings since the meteorite shower, including a space ship. So we assume he is a freak but we haven’t seen his powers. He also pretends to be Clark’s friend but is actively investigating him. His agenda isn’t clear at this point but we have seen clear signs that he may not be as caring as he seems.

Lana saves Clark. Nice moves. Later when she tells Clark she is relieved that the meteorite hadn’t hit, that all would be alright in Smallville, he understands he must stay away. He would never want to hurt her. He is the reason her parents got killed so he declines being romantically involved with her.

I know what your point of view will be—his caring parents. I look forward to hearing it.

Its understandable why Lex would question if the meteroite affected him the fact ever sense it happened,all his health problems dissapeared.makes sense to question that,that was a MAJOR shock to my system that that guy actually had LEX marked down as a freak.

I dont think he is pretending to be clarks friend,i think he is genuine about wanting to be his friend he has just had a bad upbringing the way he was raised by his father,he doesnt know right from wrong is the problem,not his fault is my two cents worth. i think he WANTS to be as caring as he seems,he just doenst know how to approach it the right way again due to his upbringing and the way he was raised.

yeah that was great seeing LANA save CLARK for a change.

Lex I think starts out WANTING to sincerely be clarks friend hm growing up never having any friends as he did and being grateful to him for saving his life but he sees clark is not a normal person so his curiosity gets the better of him and then later decides to trick clark into thinking he wants to be the best of buds with him while having an ulteriour motive for it,he then is NOT being sincere later about really being his friend i agree with you on that. at first he was genuine but after a while he was not and is not now the fact he is investigating him like he is.

yeah john has tried to convince clark that he is not responsible for the death of Lanas parents but he doesnt convince clark of that,he still feels it is ENTIRELY his fault that her parents died that day which is understandable under the circumstances.horrible thing for clark to have to go through. remember in the season finale of season two when he left smallville for metropolis at the end how he pretty much spelled it out for how he blames himself for the death of Lanas parents when he run off to the hospital to see about his mom he said to her-LANA I HAVE KEPT SO MUCH FROM YOU,IF YOU KNEW THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT ME YOU WOULD NEVER WANT TO TALK TO ME AGAIN. remember that Elusivebutterfly ?

we talked before how John was a lousy parent shutting clark out when he wanted to apologize to john for what happened to his mom and john just kicked the dog when the dog was down yelling at clark for being irresponsible and giving him a look as though he was ashamed of him for what he had done, he was a HORRIBLE father to clark at that time as you well know. John later on in season three admits that as well later on saying to him as you will find out-IM THE FATHER THAT DROVE YOU OFF TO METROPOLIS,MY FATHER WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THAT,I WISH I HAD HIS STRENGTH.

Again you will hear in a later episode down the road in this season john say that to clark admitting to clark what a screwup father he was to him that day.

you know it was a very good thing that clark and his family was able to come up with that meteorite suite to protect clark from getting shot at from that guy huh?

oh and that was a VERY touching moment how his parents were scared to death they were going to lose their son and he was going to die when he was shot at and had that kryptonite go into his body wasnt it? it gave you chills seeing how they were so terrified about losing him,that was the most exciting moment in the show the fact it was such a touching scene,another chance for both john and martha as well to show off their excellent acting chops once again.

sense that dude thought Clark was a freak due to the meterorite,i am betting even though she does not say it,she doesnt believe the times clark has told her now that he was not affected by the metorite,she probably thinks he has been lying to her this whole time about that.who can blame her? she kinda hints she doesnt believe him saying-WHY WOULD HE THINK YOU WERE A METEORITE FREAK? remember that?

i think its safe to say she knows clark is not normal,and believes he has been lying to her this whole time that he was not affected by it,she wasnt born yesterday,she knows something is not right.its so obvious from so many previous episodes as well she knows he is not normal.

 

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finishing the conclusion to season 3 episode 1 with season 3 episode 2.

yeah even though the red ring changes clark completely,he cant kill anybody,had lex put the ring on and it affected him the same way it does clark,it would have been a different story,same with lionel.

interesting second paragraph there you menioned.

good thing for clark he was able to burn up that truck and turn the tables on the guy who kidnapped him otherwise his secret would have been exposed to Lionle,whew that was a close call.great shootout on the dock,really exciting.

was really cool seeing Lana demonstrate her fighting skills kicking that guy in the barn and helping them escape.one of the more exciting moments for me in the episode.

Martha in the conclusion to episode one,once AGAIN this episode gave her an excellent opportunity to show off her acting chops AGAIN when clark comes home at the start of the show and hugs her and crys out "clark" and he says "mom" and she then starts crying,gave me goosebumps it was such a touching moment,very well done scene,

we get an idea how evil Lionel really is in this episode when he is on the docks and they are talking about bodies being buried.without them saying Lionel is a murderer,it gives you a hint he MIGHT be one. i mean why else talk about bodies being buried there?

once again,clark is left having to explain himself to everybody his horrible behaviour towards people especially Lana and chloe,poor clark,not able to come out and tell the truth why he acted that way.

Lana has clearly had enough of clark. well done Lana,who can blame her? she has put up and taken so much shit from clark the last couple years,that enough is enough,everybody has their breaking point where they have to at some point lay down the law and say-okay i have tolerated your shit for years now and i have been patient with you,no more,enough is enough,im done with you.

good move Lana. this year their junior year they are obviously just going to be friends now. as you said,clark understands.

this episode totally sets the tone for an exciting excellent season 3.

made a mistake here,Lionel never mentioned buried bodies in the show,just BURIED memories,HINTING he is talking about BODIES being buried there in the ocean from the results of him and that guy both killing people was my take when i saw it was that the same thought YOU had? we both know Lionel is evil and he is VERY capable of murder based on how we have seen him act and talk in the past,,so its only natural to think thats what he is hinting at i think its safe to say right,dont you think?

oh and I think Lex has done a good job now convincing John he really wants to be a real friend to clark the fact he paid off and saved their farm for them and john tells him he will find a way to pay him back and lex tells him not to worry about that,that its on the house,free,that the ONLY thing he wants in return is to be considered part of the family,he IS being sincere on that wanting them to accept him as part of the family seeing the parents CLARK has always been fortunate to grow up with envying him because thats what he wished HE always had in his life but was always deprived of so if they accept him,thats like a dream come true for Lex to hear them agree to that right?

 

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btw butterfly yeah i remember how you thought clark had really suffered from the red kryptonie and thought that some of it was still in his system because of how he was still acting the same way when he no longer had the ring on and i had to explain to you he was just an ACTING job towards that bad dude but you did not realise that at that time. i am flabbergassted that YOU did not pick up on that because you have this amazing observartion skills of people so your the LAST person i would have thought would not have picked up on that as i did.

btw that guy that did play that bad guy,they were VERY lucky to land him because he is rutger hauer a famous movie star,his most famous role was the bad guy he played in the harrison ford movie BALADE RUNNER so they really hit the jackpot landing him. That was as much of a major steal in hitting the jackpot with him as the producers of magnum pi were in landing frank sinatra for an episode of that show.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

Brilliant opening paragraph there.sums it up perfectly. episode one and then the conclusion episode 2 of season 3 is my FAVORITE episode of the entire SERIES of smallville. and those points you mentioned in the opening paragraph play a major role in WHY it is my favorite.

this episode showcases the excellent acting talents of both john and the actress martha kent, when i see john again in a couple months i am going to tell him that. this episode really gave him the chance to showcase his acting chops and again the wifes as well. we see that in the barn when john and martha are looking at old photos with them and clark and john starts crying remembering the old times,VERY touching emotionally. clark is there listening in and they hear him tip over something and martha knowing clark was there shouts out his name,VERY touching and moving moment,gave me goosebumps. this particular episode relly gave her a chance to show off her acting chops.

the openening seqence to the start of the show showing clark walking the streets of metropolis and showing him break into a bank totally sets the tone for the show and adding on that really great song GIRLS AND MONEY gives you the hint right there you are in for an exciting episode and again,gets the ball rolling giving you an idea how exciting the episode is really going to be.

clark robbng banks for money just shows how the red kryptonite totally changes his personality.

chole had to wonder if clark was on drugs and a drug dealer as well when he started yelling at her as he did seeing a personaly change we have never seen before even when he had the ring on the FIRST time in season two and was somehow able to afford to live the life of a multi millionaire,who wouldnt think that?

was a great cool moment with great diologue in the scene with Lana and clark when after clark yelled at john on the phone lana says-clark what is wrong with you,your parents love you,i love you. Lana really got to demonstrate her serious dramatic acting skills there. the people that say she is such a bad actress are indeed stupid *****.

we also get a great opportunity to see Lex shine and show off HIS acting chops as well in this episode,he had his work cut out for him.had to be a difficult and hard task on him,

what a thrilling cliffhanger,watching john tackle clark on that highrise tower and fall hundreds of stories below to the ground.we never saw that one coming. for the people like myself who saw the episode back then when it first aired,it was EXCRUCIATING having to wait an entire week to see what the outcome was going to be.to see them pick up where they left off.

Outstanding observations. You outdid yourself. It’s funny how you saw so much more in John’s character than I, but I do see it now. John is the equivalent of the Rock in “The Skyscraper”trying to save his son and family like the rock did. John if given the chance would go through the same lengths as the rock and actually did more since he allowed an alien being to take control of him to save Clark. Sacrifice! The series highlights the support system families and friends provide. So yes it was more touching this time around. You understand the family unit and rejoice that they never break the bond. It is admirable.

Yeah, Lana tells him she loves him and he still keeps her at bay. Only in the movies. Lol

The acting by all is very good here. Clark is amazing. John, however cannot steal the main actor’s thunder. He was humble. Lex shines on a whole other plane. He is cool personified when he isn’t around dad who totally deflates him

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

made a mistake here,Lionel never mentioned buried bodies in the show,just BURIED memories,HINTING he is talking about BODIES being buried there in the ocean from the results of him and that guy both killing people was my take when i saw it was that the same thought YOU had? we both know Lionel is evil and he is VERY capable of murder based on how we have seen him act and talk in the past,,so its only natural to think thats what he is hinting at i think its safe to say right,dont you think?

oh and I think Lex has done a good job now convincing John he really wants to be a real friend to clark the fact he paid off and saved their farm for them and john tells him he will find a way to pay him back and lex tells him not to worry about that,that its on the house,free,that the ONLY thing he wants in return is to be considered part of the family,he IS being sincere on that wanting them to accept him as part of the family seeing the parents CLARK has always been fortunate to grow up with envying him because thats what he wished HE always had in his life but was always deprived of so if they accept him,thats like a dream come true for Lex to hear them agree to that right?

I didn’t think about dead bodies. That whole scene was too fast. It was a great shoot out though. So I am curious now; will we see murderous Lionel? I suspected we are building up to a ruthless lex who has had enough and can’t contain his jealousy of Clark.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

S3 ep3

Lex appears to be questioning if the meteorite affected him. He questions childhood illnesses openly with his dad. It is odd because he’s been keeping a secret room with files of strange happenings since the meteorite shower, including a space ship. So we assume he is a freak but we haven’t seen his powers. He also pretends to be Clark’s friend but is actively investigating him. His agenda isn’t clear at this point but we have seen clear signs that he may not be as caring as he seems.

Lana saves Clark. Nice moves. Later when she tells Clark she is relieved that the meteorite hadn’t hit, that all would be alright in Smallville, he understands he must stay away. He would never want to hurt her. He is the reason her parents got killed so he declines being romantically involved with her.

I know what your point of view will be—his caring parents. I look forward to hearing it.

Its understandable why Lex would question if the meteroite affected him the fact ever sense it happened,all his health problems dissapeared.makes sense to question that,that was a MAJOR shock to my system that that guy actually had LEX marked down as a freak.

I dont think he is pretending to be clarks friend,i think he is genuine about wanting to be his friend he has just had a bad upbringing the way he was raised by his father,he doesnt know right from wrong is the problem,not his fault is my two cents worth. i think he WANTS to be as caring as he seems,he just doenst know how to approach it the right way again due to his upbringing and the way he was raised.

yeah that was great seeing LANA save CLARK for a change.

Lex I think starts out WANTING to sincerely be clarks friend hm growing up never having any friends as he did and being grateful to him for saving his life but he sees clark is not a normal person so his curiosity gets the better of him and then later decides to trick clark into thinking he wants to be the best of buds with him while having an ulteriour motive for it,he then is NOT being sincere later about really being his friend i agree with you on that. at first he was genuine but after a while he was not and is not now the fact he is investigating him like he is.

yeah john has tried to convince clark that he is not responsible for the death of Lanas parents but he doesnt convince clark of that,he still feels it is ENTIRELY his fault that her parents died that day which is understandable under the circumstances.horrible thing for clark to have to go through. remember in the season finale of season two when he left smallville for metropolis at the end how he pretty much spelled it out for how he blames himself for the death of Lanas parents when he run off to the hospital to see about his mom he said to her-LANA I HAVE KEPT SO MUCH FROM YOU,IF YOU KNEW THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT ME YOU WOULD NEVER WANT TO TALK TO ME AGAIN. remember that Elusivebutterfly ?

we talked before how John was a lousy parent shutting clark out when he wanted to apologize to john for what happened to his mom and john just kicked the dog when the dog was down yelling at clark for being irresponsible and giving him a look as though he was ashamed of him for what he had done, he was a HORRIBLE father to clark at that time as you well know. John later on in season three admits that as well later on saying to him as you will find out-IM THE FATHER THAT DROVE YOU OFF TO METROPOLIS,MY FATHER WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THAT,I WISH I HAD HIS STRENGTH.

Again you will hear in a later episode down the road in this season john say that to clark admitting to clark what a screwup father he was to him that day.

you know it was a very good thing that clark and his family was able to come up with that meteorite suite to protect clark from getting shot at from that guy huh?

oh and that was a VERY touching moment how his parents were scared to death they were going to lose their son and he was going to die when he was shot at and had that kryptonite go into his body wasnt it? it gave you chills seeing how they were so terrified about losing him,that was the most exciting moment in the show the fact it was such a touching scene,another chance for both john and martha as well to show off their excellent acting chops once again.

sense that dude thought Clark was a freak due to the meterorite,i am betting even though she does not say it,she doesnt believe the times clark has told her now that he was not affected by the metorite,she probably thinks he has been lying to her this whole time about that.who can blame her? she kinda hints she doesnt believe him saying-WHY WOULD HE THINK YOU WERE A METEORITE FREAK? remember that?

i think its safe to say she knows clark is not normal,and believes he has been lying to her this whole time that he was not affected by it,she wasnt born yesterday,she knows something is not right.its so obvious from so many previous episodes as well she knows he is not normal.

How did that guy know he was a freak? Any clue? Will we know this connection? Maybe stupid Chloe had something in her computer. This girl is Typhoid Mary and people are dying from her nosiness and lack of ethics

You are spot on about John being a horrible father at that point but he had just lost a child. You don’t need a red ring for that. It could have been written better because blaming Clark wasn’t warranted. It’s not like Clark was driving recklessly which we could blame John for. He should never have taken her with him.

Of course Lana knows he’s not normal. The tornado and her surviving cannot be explained. She told him she wouldn’t care if he was a freak, She also knows he has only failed to be her hero once when the rifleman shot the freak that was choking her in the pool.

So did Lana hear him say he was responsible at the hospital? You know the answers. Not fair.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

btw butterfly yeah i remember how you thought clark had really suffered from the red kryptonie and thought that some of it was still in his system because of how he was still acting the same way when he no longer had the ring on and i had to explain to you he was just an ACTING job towards that bad dude but you did not realise that at that time. i am flabbergassted that YOU did not pick up on that because you have this amazing observartion skills of people so your the LAST person i would have thought would not have picked up on that as i did.

btw that guy that did play that bad guy,they were VERY lucky to land him because he is rutger hauer a famous movie star,his most famous role was the bad guy he played in the harrison ford movie BALADE RUNNER so they really hit the jackpot landing him. That was as much of a major steal in hitting the jackpot with him as the producers of magnum pi were in landing frank sinatra for an episode of that show.

I just thought he could turn red ring attitude on and off because his behavior was too violent.

Blade runner had an excellent cast and he played a convincing character. One actually feels for him as he is fading. I feel the same way about punch the monkey wanting to be loved and be normal Ike the other monkeys.

Wait, are we talking about the first blade runner?

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

I’ll watch the next episode tomorrow. Thanks for the expanded version. Take a bow.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

Season3 ep 4

That dream about Lex had me going and so did the whole Lana skinny -dipping thing. lol I was biting my nails. It seems the dream also included his wishes and fears.

Lana once again shows her fearless core in the way she intervenes to save so many. She was also brave to ask Martha about Clark pushing her away. Martha’s acting is great here. She closes her eyes partially, looks down as if it is something she is not ready to discuss, and then sighs. Well done.

Lionel is a masochist. Why does Lex put up with it. Does he really want to prove his worthiness to his dad or is there an agenda. After all, the company is at stake.

Chloe was pushed back at this point so we could focus on Lana. About time.

 

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Outstanding observations. You outdid yourself. It’s funny how you saw so much more in John’s character than I, but I do see it now. John is the equivalent of the Rock in “The Skyscraper”trying to save his son and family like the rock did. John if given the chance would go through the same lengths as the rock and actually did more since he allowed an alien being to take control of him to save Clark. Sacrifice! The series highlights the support system families and friends provide. So yes it was more touching this time around. You understand the family unit and rejoice that they never break the bond. It is admirable.

Yeah, Lana tells him she loves him and he still keeps her at bay. Only in the movies. Lol

The acting by all is very good here. Clark is amazing. John, however cannot steal the main actor’s thunder. He was humble. Lex shines on a whole other plane. He is cool personified when he isn’t around dad who totally deflates him

Its funny that "I" am the one that was more observant about John than you were sense again,you are always the most observant of the two of us picking up things i would NEVER have pIcked up on and dreamed of,LOL ,but things change sometimes though.

Never been a fan of the rock so I am in the dark on that movie you are talking about.

The series highlights the support system families and friends provide. So yes it was more touching this time around. You understand the family unit and rejoice that they never break the bond. It is admirable.

Yes it indeed does,well said,could not have said it better myself word for word.never thought of it that way.well done.

yeak indeed so many things happen in this show that you are left saying-only in the movies. oh well,its based on a comicbook so thats acceptable.lol other shows that are NOT based on a comicbook sadly are as much unrealistic as this show is which is what is REALLY pathetic sense they are NOT based on a comicbook so THEIR flaws are totally unforgiveable and inexcusable where with the show you can cut them some clack for that very reason.lol

John is just a supporting character so NOBODY in this episode had the chance to outshine clark where he got to act different than he normally does. well Lex had a major role in this two parter so i would say he gave clark a run for his money sense he had the more difficult and more demanding task of the two.In this case i would have to say LEX shined as much as clark did i think you can agree under the circumstances?

 

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I didn’t think about dead bodies. That whole scene was too fast. It was a great shoot out though. So I am curious now; will we see murderous Lionel? I suspected we are building up to a ruthless lex who has had enough and can’t contain his jealousy of Clark.

wow,im surprised to hear you say you did not think of that based on how we have seen Lionel act and talk in the past we KNOW he is evil so thats what my immediate thoughts were at the time viewing it when they said buried memories that he was probably talking about dead bodies buried there in the ocean of people they killed,,that was just my take at the time viewing it for the first time but yours was different obviously.we will find out.

 

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How did that guy know he was a freak? Any clue? Will we know this connection? Maybe stupid Chloe had something in her computer. This girl is Typhoid Mary and people are dying from her nosiness and lack of ethics

You are spot on about John being a horrible father at that point but he had just lost a child. You don’t need a red ring for that. It could have been written better because blaming Clark wasn’t warranted. It’s not like Clark was driving recklessly which we could blame John for. He should never have taken her with him.

Of course Lana knows he’s not normal. The tornado and her surviving cannot be explained. She told him she wouldn’t care if he was a freak, She also knows he has only failed to be her hero once when the rifleman shot the freak that was choking her in the pool.

So did Lana hear him say he was responsible at the hospital? You know the answers. Not fair.

Yeah its understandable John being upset with clark but he was a jerk because he ignored he was just as much irresponsible if not more so than clark was because like you said,he should not have brought martha along with him.It indeed could have been written better because thats not the kind of father pa kent is,he would have been more forgiving to clark sense again as you said,john was even more irresponsible bringing martha along when he never should have taken her and as you said previously sometime back,clark did not know they were going to be coming towards the barn,he thought he was alone,the writers should have thought about that stuff and like you said,written it better.

as far as i remember from back then,yes that WAS how he knew he was a freak because of Miss lack of ethics Chloe and her snoopiness was how he found out as i remember from back then. yes clark doesnt either seem to remember that time when she told him it would be okay if he told her he was a freak or he is afraid she will hate him if she found out the truth he is from another planet and because of his ship landing in smallville,he feels responsible for the death of her parents even though john has told him before its not his fault.

So did Lana hear him say he was responsible at the hospital? You know the answers. Not fair.

yeah i know because i have a better memory than you,LOL go back and REWATCH the pilot episode,that is when chole reveals to clark for the first time the wall of weird and it shows a pic of Lana when she was 3 years old crying with the headlines reading 3 year old loses parents in meteorite shower. and then clark then says to himself-"MY FAULT."

and REWATCH episode two BUGBOY as well and you will see where it begins and starts out showing clark having a dream where he is floating above Lana while she is sleeping in her bed and she looks at him and says-"ITS ALL YOUR FAULT CLARK."

i think he was probably thinking back to that dream when he left smallville and says to her before riding off into the sunset on his motorcycle -LANA I HAVE KEPT SO MUCH HIDDEN FROM YOU THAT IF YOU KNEW THE TRUTH ABOUT ME YOU WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN." makes sense.

you also hear later in that episode of bugboy clark talking to john about he is to blame for all the problems people have had in smallville being freaks in everything because of the meteore shower and john trys to convince clark it is not his fault by telling him people who have gotten 3 legs and have become freaks are the result of Lionel Luthers fertilizer spray not because of him and then clark then says to john-DAD LIONEL LUTHER DID NOT KILL LANAS PARENTS.

clark feels like HE is the one responsible for the death of Lanas parents and that HE killed them.He more than anything wants to tell Lana his secret as he did with pete but cannot do so because he is afraid she would hate him forever if he does so.

this was all spoken of in the first two episodes of SEASON ONE Elusivebutterfly you just dont remember so in THAT case,if i were you,i would advise to go back and REWATCH those first two episodes before going on to season 3 episode 4 so you CAN remember in the future is my advise. I hope you follow it.LOL

 

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I just thought he could turn red ring attitude on and off because his behavior was too violent.

Blade runner had an excellent cast and he played a convincing character. One actually feels for him as he is fading. I feel the same way about punch the monkey wanting to be loved and be normal Ike the other monkeys.

Wait, are we talking about the first blade runner?

yes we are talking about the original blade runner movie with harrison ford, and no he cant turn it on and off,he was just doing an acting job to that guy because he did not want him to know the truth that he was not the same bad guy he was in Metropolis and was back to normal,he wanted him to think he was STILL the bad crazy person from metropolis hense the acting performance. another rare moment where 'I" was the more observant of the two. you can tell it was all an acting performance he put on for the benefit of that guy because if you rewatch the scene,you see that when the car is starting to pull away,clark has a grin on his face making sure that they SEE his grin,he wants them to see the grin because he wants them thinking-"This guy is crazy,he is threatening us and is grinning about it finding it funny as well." In hopes that they will be so scared about him flipping out on them like that and knowing his secret that he is a superhuman,that they will be afraid to come back and bother him again.

you can tell thats what he was trying to accomplish putting on that act of his because as soon as the car pulls away out of sight,clarks grin goes away and you see he has a serious look of worry and concern on his face if thats the last he will see of them and if they will leave him alone finally.

his worry and concern was valid because as you found out,he did NOT leave clark alone and clarks plan BACKFIRED on him when they came back and they were about to kill his parents with clark having no chance to be able to stop them from killing ONE of them,he could stop them from one of them but not the other as they knew.remember? so clarks acting plan backfired on him.

I was wondering at the time when i first saw it WHY that bad guy was so eager to stop his henchmen from shooting clark and made him out his gun away and drove off and gave up so easily,did not make sense at the time but later on we found out he did so because he OBVIOUSLY had a plan that would MAKE clark give him that vial he stold.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I’ll watch the next episode tomorrow. Thanks for the expanded version. Take a bow.

about 80% of it was OLD stuff i had already discussed with 20% of it NEW.

Sense episodes 1 and 2 of season 3 are the most important and crucial stories to the series with the pilot episode being the exception,just thought of a couple more points that need to be added on here sense they were not mentioned previously. I bet you were as shocked and dumbfounded as i was when it turns out there was NEVER another person on that island with Lex,that he was HALUCINATING the whole time right? man never saw that one coming,thats for sure.MAJOR shocking surprise that was.

as i said before,man Lana and chloe HAD to think clark had become a drug dealer and was on drugs with how he was acting,only thing that would be realistic to explain WHY he was acting the way he was and how he was able to afford to live in such a nice pad as he did.remember the first time he put on the ring in red thats what they ititally were thinking. when pa kent was talking to Lana on the phone and saying to her-clark is not himself right now. she should have taken that opportunity and said -mr kent what do you mean by that? but it was the heat of the moment so she forgot about it im sure.

chole and Lana HAVE to be wondering what the hell is up with clark these days after acting like that.His parents knew so they were not confused by any of it and knew what was going on but neither of them know why he was acting like that so they have got to be freaked out with clark by this point huh?

ANOTHER example how chloe is no real friend to anybody.Lana was right when she said to her-CHOLE,THIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN ME,YOU HAD NOT ONLY AN OBLIGATION TO ME BUT TO EVERYBODY TO LET US KNOW WHERE CLARK WAS

she kinda justified herself saying-LANA,I WAS AFRAID IF I HAD TOLD YOU WHERE CLARK WAS HE WOULD HAVE RUN AWAY AGAIN AND THIS TIME I WOULD NEVER FIND HIM,IT WAS JUST LCK I FOUND HIM THIS TIME,YOU SAW HOW HE WAS ACTING,IT WAS AS THOUGH-

And then Lana goes on and finishes the sentence for him saying-HE WAS ANOTHER PERSON.

YEAH-says chole remember that?

for those two to still be friends with clark after that,
as you said before,only in the movies huh?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Season3 ep 4

That dream about Lex had me going and so did the whole Lana skinny -dipping thing. lol I was biting my nails. It seems the dream also included his wishes and fears.

Lana once again shows her fearless core in the way she intervenes to save so many. She was also brave to ask Martha about Clark pushing her away. Martha’s acting is great here. She closes her eyes partially, looks down as if it is something she is not ready to discuss, and then sighs. Well done.

Lionel is a masochist. Why does Lex put up with it. Does he really want to prove his worthiness to his dad or is there an agenda. After all, the company is at stake.

Chloe was pushed back at this point so we could focus on Lana. About time.

Yay now it starts to get REALLY exciting again sense this is one we have NOT discussed before.

a NEW episode we have not discussed previously.

will discuss this one with you after you finish up on final comments of my final thoughts of episodes one and two of season 3.LOL

after that,will reply to this post with MY thoughts on the episode and elaboration of your summary here.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Yeah its understandable John being upset with clark but he was a jerk because he ignored he was just as much irresponsible if not more so than clark was because like you said,he should not have brought martha along with him.It indeed could have been written better because thats not the kind of father pa kent is,he would have been more forgiving to clark sense again as you said,john was even more irresponsible bringing martha along when he never should have taken her and as you said previously sometime back,clark did not know they were going to be coming towards the barn,he thought he was alone,the writers should have thought about that stuff and like you said,written it better.

as far as i remember from back then,yes that WAS how he knew he was a freak because of Miss lack of ethics Chloe and her snoopiness was how he found out as i remember from back then. yes clark doesnt either seem to remember that time when she told him it would be okay if he told her he was a freak or he is afraid she will hate him if she found out the truth he is from another planet and because of his ship landing in smallville,he feels responsible for the death of her parents even though john has told him before its not his fault.

So did Lana hear him say he was responsible at the hospital? You know the answers. Not fair.

yeah i know because i have a better memory than you,LOL go back and REWATCH the pilot episode,that is when chole reveals to clark for the first time the wall of weird and it shows a pic of Lana when she was 3 years old crying with the headlines reading 3 year old loses parents in meteorite shower. and then clark then says to himself-"MY FAULT."

and REWATCH episode two BUGBOY as well and you will see where it begins and starts out showing clark having a dream where he is floating above Lana while she is sleeping in her bed and she looks at him and says-"ITS ALL YOUR FAULT CLARK."

i think he was probably thinking back to that dream when he left smallville and says to her before riding off into the sunset on his motorcycle -LANA I HAVE KEPT SO MUCH HIDDEN FROM YOU THAT IF YOU KNEW THE TRUTH ABOUT ME YOU WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN." makes sense.

you also hear later in that episode of bugboy clark talking to john about he is to blame for all the problems people have had in smallville being freaks in everything because of the meteore shower and john trys to convince clark it is not his fault by telling him people who have gotten 3 legs and have become freaks are the result of Lionel Luthers fertilizer spray not because of him and then clark then says to john-DAD LIONEL LUTHER DID NOT KILL LANAS PARENTS.

clark feels like HE is the one responsible for the death of Lanas parents and that HE killed them.He more than anything wants to tell Lana his secret as he did with pete but cannot do so because he is afraid she would hate him forever if he does so.

this was all spoken of in the first two episodes of SEASON ONE Elusivebutterfly you just dont remember so in THAT case,if i were you,i would advise to go back and REWATCH those first two episodes before going on to season 3 episode 4 so you CAN remember in the future is my advise. I hope you follow it.LOL

need to correct myself here in one thing i said.I said i had a better memory than you but no thats not the case,its just that you ARE correct that its unfair because i have seen the pilot episode and the next one after that at LEAST fives times each verses you only seeing it ONCE so naturally I AM going to have am unfair advantage over you in that regard the fact i have had more chances and more opportunitys to memorize things than yourself so yeah you are correct,it is unfair advantage i have over you there.

thats WHY I suggest going back and rewatching those episodes so you can have at LEAST a closer advantage to me than you do and be on a closer playing field to me.LOL

 

[Papageorgio]

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Truthfully???..... I've never watched Smallville.

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You saved yourself a lot of bad TV, I watched a few episodes but it totally stunk, it was like watching Saturday morning cartoons. Just bad TV.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

Its funny that "I" am the one that was more observant about John than you were sense again,you are always the most observant of the two of us picking up things i would NEVER have pIcked up on and dreamed of,LOL ,but things change sometimes though.

Never been a fan of the rock so I am in the dark on that movie you are talking about.

The series highlights the support system families and friends provide. So yes it was more touching this time around. You understand the family unit and rejoice that they never break the bond. It is admirable.

Yes it indeed does,well said,could not have said it better myself word for word.never thought of it that way.well done.

yeak indeed so many things happen in this show that you are left saying-only in the movies. oh well,its based on a comicbook so thats acceptable.lol other shows that are NOT based on a comicbook sadly are as much unrealistic as this show is which is what is REALLY pathetic sense they are NOT based on a comicbook so THEIR flaws are totally unforgiveable and inexcusable where with the show you can cut them some clack for that very reason.lol

John is just a supporting character so NOBODY in this episode had the chance to outshine clark where he got to act different than he normally does. well Lex had a major role in this two parter so i would say he gave clark a run for his money sense he had the more difficult and more demanding task of the two.In this case i would have to say LEX shined as much as clark did i think you can agree under the circumstances?

Lex shined because he acts self assured. You can’t break his barrier whereas Clark is vulnerable, shy, and uncertain about his future. Lex, one feels, has his own reel going and sucks us up with curiosity. There is also this poker face one can’t decypher.

I was never into comics so I can’t expound on that.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

wow,im surprised to hear you say you did not think of that based on how we have seen Lionel act and talk in the past we KNOW he is evil so thats what my immediate thoughts were at the time viewing it when they said buried memories that he was probably talking about dead bodies buried there in the ocean of people they killed,,that was just my take at the time viewing it for the first time but yours was different obviously.we will find out.

So does this come out later?

Yeah its understandable John being upset with clark but he was a jerk because he ignored he was just as much irresponsible if not more so than clark was because like you said,he should not have brought martha along with him.It indeed could have been written better because thats not the kind of father pa kent is,he would have been more forgiving to clark sense again as you said,john was even more irresponsible bringing martha along when he never should have taken her and as you said previously sometime back,clark did not know they were going to be coming towards the barn,he thought he was alone,the writers should have thought about that stuff and like you said,written it better.

as far as i remember from back then,yes that WAS how he knew he was a freak because of Miss lack of ethics Chloe and her snoopiness was how he found out as i remember from back then. yes clark doesnt either seem to remember that time when she told him it would be okay if he told her he was a freak or he is afraid she will hate him if she found out the truth he is from another planet and because of his ship landing in smallville,he feels responsible for the death of her parents even though john has told him before its not his fault.

So did Lana hear him say he was responsible at the hospital? You know the answers. Not fair.

yeah i know because i have a better memory than you,LOL go back and REWATCH the pilot episode,that is when chole reveals to clark for the first time the wall of weird and it shows a pic of Lana when she was 3 years old crying with the headlines reading 3 year old loses parents in meteorite shower. and then clark then says to himself-"MY FAULT."

and REWATCH episode two BUGBOY as well and you will see where it begins and starts out showing clark having a dream where he is floating above Lana while she is sleeping in her bed and she looks at him and says-"ITS ALL YOUR FAULT CLARK."

i think he was probably thinking back to that dream when he left smallville and says to her before riding off into the sunset on his motorcycle -LANA I HAVE KEPT SO MUCH HIDDEN FROM YOU THAT IF YOU KNEW THE TRUTH ABOUT ME YOU WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN." makes sense.

you also hear later in that episode of bugboy clark talking to john about he is to blame for all the problems people have had in smallville being freaks in everything because of the meteore shower and john trys to convince clark it is not his fault by telling him people who have gotten 3 legs and have become freaks are the result of Lionel Luthers fertilizer spray not because of him and then clark then says to john-DAD LIONEL LUTHER DID NOT KILL LANAS PARENTS.

clark feels like HE is the one responsible for the death of Lanas parents and that HE killed them.He more than anything wants to tell Lana his secret as he did with pete but cannot do so because he is afraid she would hate him forever if he does so.

this was all spoken of in the first two episodes of SEASON ONE Elusivebutterfly you just dont remember so in THAT case,if i were you,i would advise to go back and REWATCH those first two episodes before going on to season 3 episode 4 so you CAN remember in the future is my advise. I hope you follow it.LOL

exactly, just the baby dying would have been enough for Clark to leave.

Professor, you give me too much homework. I’ll take your word on it because I remember now. Chloe heard him at the board. Bugboy, well, you know I disliked that episode
—supernatural stuff.

Agree on the rest.