Smallville seasons one through four the best.

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here are all the scenes i could come up with from the pilot episode so you have an idea what you cannot watch. PLENTY of them to watch,LOTS of then in this ONE video here.


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oh forgot to say earlier,its not like tom knows who i am or recognizes me when he sees me,even john doesnt know who i am by SIGHT.when i see him and ask him if he recognizes me and knows my name he says n,you got to remember he sees THOUSANDS so i cant expect him to remember me,i have to REMIND him of who i am by saying you know me as OVERDRESSED.then the light bulb goes on.

I see why you wanted me to see the pilot. It develops the love story with tender moments. His first transformation shows us his rejection of material things, and how he devalues their worth. Even moreso, he looses attachment to essential things that he needs, like a car. It informs us of his powers, at first banging things, then bending, then finally overturning heavy things. Finally we are aware of his memory loss after.

It was a bit silly that changing a car tire and hurting yourself would cause such a reaction. Maybe in men, but women aren’t built that way. Lol

My you are brave. Just remember, your disappointment should be geared towards the writers, not the actors. John may have expressed a desire to leave with tom. Don’t judge unless you have your facts straight. Why would you not go to bat if it were the opposite?

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

No I i wasnt afraid of what tom would feel,now that i have gotten past the star trip thing with him and john i think of them as just another person.It needed to be said,like i said,john was a MAJOR force on making the show great,you just cant take away someone so important to the show and expect it to be anywhere near as good.

Had they only planned on airing the show for five season,,then i would have been totally okay with them killing him off as they in the middle of season five when the show is coming to an end even in the middle of season four ,but not if you plan a ten year run , those six seasons should be BURNED and erased.


that was just ONE episode so how can john and martha not being there take the enjoyment away from you? you have me confused here,how can the episodes that john and martha were not in in season four when they were on vacation like the witches episode,not alter your opinion of the episode but it can alter it now just because you know they are not on the show. them being gone for ONE episode should not alter your opinon of the episode.

pretend the episode took place in season four and they were on vacation just llke the witches epsiode,i would hope THAT information would make you alter your opinion of the epside sense were are going to say this one took place during season four and it was one of them when they were just on vacation again.

as i said before,ALL the espisodes in season five EVEN the ones that HAD martha and john in them,were just plain god awful viewing for me i could never put myself through. this episode i found VERY unique,a lot different from the crap in season five.

I am VERY dissapointed in tom and the rest of the cast members for not sticking up for john. they lacked balls unlike bill bixby and lou ferrigno.Bixby and ferrigno they are CLASS ACT guys because the producers of the incredible hulk they were wanting to take that actor that played that investigative reporter jack mcgee you see in that opening theme song off of the show after season one in a cost cutting move to save money,that was their original plans but bill bixy and lou fieergino,they wouldnt have NONE of that.

they told the producers of the show they would BOYCOTT the show if they cancelled his character from the show and did not remain on. I am dissapointed in tom and the other actors that they did not do the same that bill bixby and lou ferrigno did,the way they stuck up for that actor that played jack mcgee like the class act guys they were. They lacked the balls that bixby and ferrigno had.

yeah that really is weird the hulk is afraid of fire,thats not consistant with the comics at all.


so how many stars do you give this episode?

No, it is a reminder that things have changed. Clark is all grown up and obviously alone. There is something sterile about the scene despite the raging lust between them as Lana has the same powers as Clark. The change is too much, no high school, no Martha and John, and no lasting peace between them, even if it is for 1 episode. I can’t pretend otherwise.

As for the s1ep2 of hulk, it was not something I would want to ever watch again. It just isn’t for me. It moves too slow. I’ll give it a 1.

I started the jfk jr series out of curiosity, but can no longer tolerate the same bitching over the press interrupting their lives, her being curled up every episode, and both miserable as heck.

I’ll be honest. I don’t care to see the other hulk episodes. Thank you for the pilot vids. That looked pretty good. After all, you wouldn’t want to watch Romy and Michelle. As much as I have seen that 80s movie; I really love it. lol

 

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I see why you wanted me to see the pilot. It develops the love story with tender moments. His first transformation shows us his rejection of material things, and how he devalues their worth. Even moreso, he looses attachment to essential things that he needs, like a car. It informs us of his powers, at first banging things, then bending, then finally overturning heavy things. Finally we are aware of his memory loss after.

It was a bit silly that changing a car tire and hurting yourself would cause such a reaction. Maybe in men, but women aren’t built that way. Lol

My you are brave. Just remember, your disappointment should be geared towards the writers, not the actors. John may have expressed a desire to leave with tom. Don’t judge unless you have your facts straight. Why would you not go to bat if it were the opposite?

Its not at all silly that changing a tire and hurting yourelf would cause him to turn into the hulk,anytime he is in pain,scared or angry makes him turn into the hulk. I have changed tires before and believe me it hurts like hell when you accidentaly scrape your hand against the street and your hand starts bleeding. I know that from experiencd with my dad.

My dad when he was teaching me how to change tires,thanks to him,,he would always drill it into me to be careful and slow down when changing a tire,that if i hurried,that i could have an accident and scrap my hand against the street and it would be VERY PAINFUL.He said it happened to him once and it was very painful and after that ,made sure to slow down so that would never happen again,he did not want to go through that gain. never forgot those words because i remember very well him telling me it hurt like hell so i did not ever want that to happen to me as it did to him. from my dads experience and how he in VERY MUCH pain when it happened to him as i remember him telling me,it is VERY EASY to understand that happening to him causing him pain to turn into the hulk.

oh and just so you know,i DO know what the facts are for smallville,john did NOT want to leave the show,he was VERY ANGRY when he found out they were taking him off the show.i found that out because tom and lex on a podcast they have,they spoke about john being angry about it when he found out about it.

oh and tom understands that John was very important to the show being fun to watch and very important to its success and understands obviously i loved his acting and enjpyed watching the show even the episodes without john like that one and the witches episode,he understands i feel it was the WRITING of the episodes of the shows WHY i hated all the shows after they got rid of john,as i said,even in the shows in season five that john was in BEFORE they killed him off,i hated ALL those episodes DESPITE john being in them because of the WRING of the show. and tom and lex have both on their podcasts have said the same thing,that the WRITING for alot of these shows are just plain terrible.

 

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No, it is a reminder that things have changed. Clark is all grown up and obviously alone. There is something sterile about the scene despite the raging lust between them as Lana has the same powers as Clark. The change is too much, no high school, no Martha and John, and no lasting peace between them, even if it is for 1 episode. I can’t pretend otherwise.

As for the s1ep2 of hulk, it was not something I would want to ever watch again. It just isn’t for me. It moves too slow. I’ll give it a 1.

I started the jfk jr series out of curiosity, but can no longer tolerate the same bitching over the press interrupting their lives, her being curled up every episode, and both miserable as heck.

I’ll be honest. I don’t care to see the other hulk episodes. Thank you for the pilot vids. That looked pretty good. After all, you wouldn’t want to watch Romy and Michelle. As much as I have seen that 80s movie; I really love it. lol

wow,I am totally flabbergassted,i never thought you would give the PILOT episode a one star.yeah makes no sense for you to watch anymore episodes after that then if you only give the pilot episode a one star ranking. i thought you might possibly go 2 stars but NEVER UNDER 2.

okay sense you dont want to watch anymore Hulk episodes then do this one last thing for me regarding the hulk then.

watch these THREE videos with MANY scenes from the episode This episode was titled THE FIRST because david banner discovers that there was another person who did the same experiment on him first BEFORE he did. and he somehow cured himself ,But he wants to become the hulk again and he remembered what he did to become him the first time and he DOES do it again. here again is a video with SEVERAL scenes from it.

VERY IMPORTANT SECOND video


here is this third video,he goes to a bar and provokes a guy who had been harrassing him and bullying him for years into becoming the hulk so he can get his revenge on him,only he takes it too far and kills the guy.


in THIS video,banner realises he cant let that guy go on and live to kill others,this guy,wants to remain the hulk DESPITE the fact he KNOWS he killed someone because he has no conscience or remorse about killing him so you can see how HE is evil as the bad hulk,this episode shows GOOD VS EVIL.

watch davids reacting here,when the bad hulk throws the vile of serum his CURE against the wall,and telll me if it gave you goosebumps?

when that episode FIRST aired back in the late 80's,t made me cry,i felt so sad and terrible for him that what wanted to have his whole life,he was not going to ever be able to have and it was within grasps reach. I GUARANTEE you,you will find THIS scene EXCITING.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

did you say that hulu doesnt provide you the chance to watch the superman movies?

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

Its not at all silly that changing a tire and hurting yourelf would cause him to turn into the hulk,anytime he is in pain,scared or angry makes him turn into the hulk. I have changed tires before and believe me it hurts like hell when you accidentaly scrape your hand against the street and your hand starts bleeding. I know that from experiencd with my dad.

My dad when he was teaching me how to change tires,thanks to him,,he would always drill it into me to be careful and slow down when changing a tire,that if i hurried,that i could have an accident and scrap my hand against the street and it would be VERY PAINFUL.He said it happened to him once and it was very painful and after that ,made sure to slow down so that would never happen again,he did not want to go through that gain. never forgot those words because i remember very well him telling me it hurt like hell so i did not ever want that to happen to me as it did to him. from my dads experience and how he in VERY MUCH pain when it happened to him as i remember him telling me,it is VERY EASY to understand that happening to him causing him pain to turn into the hulk.

oh and just so you know,i DO know what the facts are for smallville,john did NOT want to leave the show,he was VERY ANGRY when he found out they were taking him off the show.i found that out because tom and lex on a podcast they have,they spoke about john being angry about it when he found out about it.

oh and tom understands that John was very important to the show being fun to watch and very important to its success and understands obviously i loved his acting and enjpyed watching the show even the episodes without john like that one and the witches episode,he understands i feel it was the WRITING of the episodes of the shows WHY i hated all the shows after they got rid of john,as i said,even in the shows in season five that john was in BEFORE they killed him off,i hated ALL those episodes DESPITE john being in them because of the WRING of the show. and tom and lex have both on their podcasts have said the same thing,that the WRITING for alot of these shows are just plain terrible.

I rated episode 2 a 1. I didn’t see the whole pilot.

Ok, so John was kicked off. I thought he was just ready to move on. I can see why you are upset. I would be too. He was a stabilizing character. His son needed him too. The writers were idiots.

As far as tire changes and getting hurt. Women react differently.. I guess it’s a guy thing but lose or break a nail, those are fighting words. It is great that your dad was thorough in teaching you. Many are not so lucky. Lol

Wow Lex and tom admitted the writers sucked. That was rough

I saw one podcast but it was the group just shooting the breeze.

 

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I rated episode 2 a 1. I didn’t see the whole pilot.

Ok, so John was kicked off. I thought he was just ready to move on. I can see why you are upset. I would be too. He was a stabilizing character. His son needed him too. The writers were idiots.

As far as tire changes and getting hurt. Women react differently.. I guess it’s a guy thing but lose or break a nail, those are fighting words. It is great that your dad was thorough in teaching you. Many are not so lucky. Lol

Wow Lex and tom admitted the writers sucked. That was rough

I saw one podcast but it was the group just shooting the breeze.

oh i was going to say.well even so, i stil wouldnt have thought ANY of them you would rate THAT low.

 

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I rated episode 2 a 1. I didn’t see the whole pilot.

Ok, so John was kicked off. I thought he was just ready to move on. I can see why you are upset. I would be too. He was a stabilizing character. His son needed him too. The writers were idiots.

As far as tire changes and getting hurt. Women react differently.. I guess it’s a guy thing but lose or break a nail, those are fighting words. It is great that your dad was thorough in teaching you. Many are not so lucky. Lol

Wow Lex and tom admitted the writers sucked. That was rough

I saw one podcast but it was the group just shooting the breeze.

not on all of them of course just some.

The writers were idiots.

that CANNOT be said enough times. it is the UNDERSTATEMENT of the century. if i had a chance to talk with tom for along period of time i would tell him i was dissapointwd with him not boycotting the show at the time but at the same time tell him bygones are bygones and i am over it now and still at th same time say they did john a favor sense season five and all the way to ten the shows were utter crap.

 

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wow,I am totally flabbergassted,i never thought you would give the PILOT episode a one star.yeah makes no sense for you to watch anymore episodes after that then if you only give the pilot episode a one star ranking. i thought you might possibly go 2 stars but NEVER UNDER 2.

okay sense you dont want to watch anymore Hulk episodes then do this one last thing for me regarding the hulk then.

watch these THREE videos with MANY scenes from the episode This episode was titled THE FIRST because david banner discovers that there was another person who did the same experiment on him first BEFORE he did. and he somehow cured himself ,But he wants to become the hulk again and he remembered what he did to become him the first time and he DOES do it again. here again is a video with SEVERAL scenes from it.

VERY IMPORTANT SECOND video


here is this third video,he goes to a bar and provokes a guy who had been harrassing him and bullying him for years into becoming the hulk so he can get his revenge on him,only he takes it too far and kills the guy.


in THIS video,banner realises he cant let that guy go on and live to kill others,this guy,wants to remain the hulk DESPITE the fact he KNOWS he killed someone because he has no conscience or remorse about killing him so you can see how HE is evil as the bad hulk,this episode shows GOOD VS EVIL.

watch davids reacting here,when the bad hulk throws the vile of serum his CURE against the wall,and telll me if it gave you goosebumps?

when that episode FIRST aired back in the late 80's,t made me cry,i felt so sad and terrible for him that what wanted to have his whole life,he was not going to ever be able to have and it was within grasps reach. I GUARANTEE you,you will find THIS scene EXCITING.

you think you will take a look at these scenes of the huld today?

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

wow,I am totally flabbergassted,i never thought you would give the PILOT episode a one star.yeah makes no sense for you to watch anymore episodes after that then if you only give the pilot episode a one star ranking. i thought you might possibly go 2 stars but NEVER UNDER 2.

okay sense you dont want to watch anymore Hulk episodes then do this one last thing for me regarding the hulk then.

watch these THREE videos with MANY scenes from the episode This episode was titled THE FIRST because david banner discovers that there was another person who did the same experiment on him first BEFORE he did. and he somehow cured himself ,But he wants to become the hulk again and he remembered what he did to become him the first time and he DOES do it again. here again is a video with SEVERAL scenes from it.

VERY IMPORTANT SECOND video


here is this third video,he goes to a bar and provokes a guy who had been harrassing him and bullying him for years into becoming the hulk so he can get his revenge on him,only he takes it too far and kills the guy.


in THIS video,banner realises he cant let that guy go on and live to kill others,this guy,wants to remain the hulk DESPITE the fact he KNOWS he killed someone because he has no conscience or remorse about killing him so you can see how HE is evil as the bad hulk,this episode shows GOOD VS EVIL.

watch davids reacting here,when the bad hulk throws the vile of serum his CURE against the wall,and telll me if it gave you goosebumps?

when that episode FIRST aired back in the late 80's,t made me cry,i felt so sad and terrible for him that what wanted to have his whole life,he was not going to ever be able to have and it was within grasps reach. I GUARANTEE you,you will find THIS scene EXCITING.

This last part would have been the equivalent to the Godzilla vs Mothra battle to you guys. It has a lot of action and does a lot of man vs evil. In this case evil vs inner evil and bixby would be man vs himself vs evil. lol. We all have a little of that.

It is another lesson in bullying. I can’t imagine being bullied to the point that you take action or self destruct. One must have a strong inner being in order to overcome that. Some are too weak to survive and both scenarios go back to strong parenting or lack of.

Bixby wanted his life back and like all the heroes, he comes to understand that it is a duty to use his gift for the good when needed. I mean, go back to Rambo. He was inner hulk.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

oh i was going to say.well even so, i stil wouldnt have thought ANY of them you would rate THAT low.

That one was lame. Ep 2

The clips you showed me today were much better. If you are invested in the bixby character all the better because you are rooting for him to succeed in his journey.

I think the perspective of being a male vs female watching shows like this determines whether you will cry or get goosebumps. Sometimes females watch shows because they find the character attractive vs men who like the action. Then you see the mixed genders liking a particular show. Of course there are shows truly intelligent women, like my eldest watch. In that case the brain needs to be fed lest it starts to fight boredom.

 

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not on all of them of course just some.

The writers were idiots.

that CANNOT be said enough times. it is the UNDERSTATEMENT of the century. if i had a chance to talk with tom for along period of time i would tell him i was dissapointwd with him not boycotting the show at the time but at the same time tell him bygones are bygones and i am over it now and still at th same time say they did john a favor sense season five and all the way to ten the shows were utter crap.

Hmmm he may not want to talk to you again. They like their egos stroked. A little more diplomatic, ram. Rather than disappointed say you had hoped the cast would intervene for the good of the show. Just a friendly suggestion. He still might not like it.

 

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Hmmm he may not want to talk to you again. They like their egos stroked. A little more diplomatic, ram. Rather than disappointed say you had hoped the cast would intervene for the good of the show. Just a friendly suggestion. He still might not like it.

I think i will talk to john first and see what he has to say before saying anything to tom,If john is good with it then no reason why i shouldnt right?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Elusivebutterfly
That guy that bullied him for years he should have been JAILED for that.someone like that should not be allowed to walk the streets,same with his a$$hole friends,that evil hulk should have killed them as well,they were just as bad.especially that fat guy.

I can understand that old guy going in there to provoke him to hit him so he could hulk out and beat him up,he had been bullying him for YEARS so it would be hard to resist that temptation,you would want some kind of revenge.

However what is NOT forgiveable by him is that while i would not fault himself for not turning himself in for what he had done to that guy sense he had it coming to him,he SHOULD have listened to david and cooperated with him when he tried to cure him so he would not become the hulk again.it was inexcusable for hm to want to REMAIN being able to hulk out after he already killed a man sense he would kill others as well in the future.

thats the difference between him and david banner is banner can NEVER kill because he has a conscience and is a good person,so when HE hulks out,all he does is throw someone around or throw something harmless at them to knock them down as he did in the beginning.

that old guy has no conscience and craves power so HIS evil inside him emerges when he hulks out. Notice how the first time he hulked out,he grabbed davids wrist? because of his strength,it hurt david and he was in pain and he ALSO tried to throw something at him. David was smart playing possem pretending to be knocked out. david did NOTHING to him and yet the guy was throwing things at him and reached out and gripped him hurting him. David NEVER does that when he becomes the hulk.

oh how about the second time he hulked out when david was trying to cure him.He was beating up on david throwing him around when david did NOTHING to him. same with that sherrif,that sherrif had done nothing to him yet he was going to throw a table at him?

oh and two other things here.

1-did you notice that the bad hulk REALLY looked evil? He looked like a wolfman when HE became the hulk

2-and did you notice it that when he hulked out in the bar when that guy beat him up and when he was on the table after david tried to cure him,that he had a big grin on his face and was ENJOYING it that he was becoming the hulk?


totally different than bixbys reaction.check back again to when HE first became the hulk and HE looks scared and is trying to FIGHT it.


oh and as i said before,when that episode FIRST came out back then,when bixby started crying,he made ME cry back then,i STILL remember to this day tears coming out of my eyes.

It doesnt make me cry NOW when i watch it but it STILL gives me goosebumps EVERYIME I watch it.

guess what? i was not the ONLY person back them who bixby made cry and found it really touching when he could not cure himself and he broke out crying,MANY others did as well.look at all these comments i found from people that watched that show back then below.

and "The First." Banner breaking into tears after losing his cure in "The First" still gets me.

see what he said there butterfly? SAME as me,it STILL gets him.

 

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here is the ENTIRE paragraph of what he said above Elusive butterfly. the thing that amazes me about him liking the show is HE read the comic and STILL liked the show even though it was NOTHING like the comics at all and as you can,to no surprise,its because of the FANTASTIC acting of Bixby.

OH and please read the other comments below as well from fans of bixby Elusivebutterfly
ComplexAd7272
•2y ago

As a massive comic fan, this show always surprises me in how much I love it. Watched it as a kid and still love it to this day, despite the fact that it has almost ZERO to do with the comic. I 100% credit Bill Bixby's fantastic acting. It's probably the best portrayal of the Banner/Hulk conflict ever done. This version shows just how much of a curse the Hulk is, it's not a power fantasy and would ruin your life.

It's also "incredible" how much it sucks you into these side characters and their problems the same way David does. You're not just sitting around waiting for him to turn into the Hulk. Every story is compelling.

But for my money, the best episodes were the two-parters or the ones that leaned into sci-fi a little more. "Prometheus", "Dark Side" and "Bring Me The Head Of The Hulk" and "The First." Banner breaking into tears after losing his cure in "The First" still gets me.


thats what i always remembered about it as well ,was i wasnt just sitting around there waiting for bixby to turn into the hulk because like he said so very well put,every story was compelling. so compelling i always thought they were,that i did NOT want him to hulk out because then i was not going to see anymore of Bixbys acting for a while.LOL

Hear, hear! This show is the sole reason why I love the Hulk! WATCHING BIXBY IS A DELIGHT. , he brings a genuine passion and/ or compassion to the screen, with his sweet and vulnerable depiction of Banner. Of course Lou does a fine job of portraying a more realistic version of the Hulk.

And I’m glad it’s one of my few favourites that actually got an ending. I realize not everyone might agree with the ending he got, but for me, it’s very fitting for this tragic character.


Soft_Appropriate
OP•2y ago•Edited 2y ago


For many years, Edward Norton has been my favorite Bruce Banner mainly because he carried over the damaged, weary, smart and proactive qualities I've always associated with Bruce Banner. But after watching the show again, I have to say Bill Bixby is my new favorite. What I loved about David Banner is that he's the most compassionate and most no-nonsense version of the character we've ever got. You really feel his desperation not just for the cure, but also for the needs of the people he interacts with. His relationship with Elaina, Julie and Michael was one of the highlights in both episodes for me.

Joe Harnell's score is severely underrated. Everyone remembers the "Lonely man" piano piece, but the love theme from the pilot's opening scene is absolutely magical, and the horror oriented score during the transformations gave me goosebumps every single time.

One of the things that surprised me a lot was the fact that I was never bored at all. The drama was so good and the action was really impressive. Both episodes are 1:35 hour long and I never felt the runtime in neither of them, which is something I felt in each and every episode of the WONDER WOMAN tv series (a show that was way too repetitive with its plot points, had little to no excitement and didn't need to be 50 minutes long per episode for the paper thin stories it told).

Wolf873
•2y ago

I too admire Norton’s Banner, he did a marvellous job of portraying pathos of the character. He was perfectly cast as the modern version of Banner. However, Bixby still remains the best on screen Banner for me. Although, for life of me, I can’t see Bixby’ Banner as the kind of guy who turns into this raging monster. He’s so sweet and soft in his mannerisms, even when he tries to show anger, it comes off as more frustrated or annoyed haha.

And I completely agree about the score, it’s still the most moving piece of music I’ve ever heard. The growing anger theme was missed in the later episodes, it really sets up his transformation really well.

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•2y ago

I'm with you on that. I remember watching it as a little kid in the early 80's but my best memories of it are from the mid 90's when the Sci-fi channel picked it up. An episode came on every day not long after I got home from school. It's still one of my favorite shows to this day.

yeah i remember coming home from school and watching it as well on reruns.

 

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Bixby is by far the best
Bixby

Bill Bixby, he did a truly beautiful job on that show

kyShark03191
•10mo ago

Bixby all the way. Perfect Banner.

This week, Edward Norton debuts on the big screen as "The Incredible Hulk," but for me, that role will always be associated with Bill Bixby

 

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fortunately elisebutterfly i found another VERY important scene of the pilot episode.the scene at the end when the hulk crys out kinda reminds me of the play beauty and the beast.LOL

you can see WHY i give the pilot episode along with the bad hulk one four stars.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

Bixby is by far the best
Bixby

Bill Bixby, he did a truly beautiful job on that show

kyShark03191
•10mo ago

Bixby all the way. Perfect Banner.

This week, Edward Norton debuts on the big screen as "The Incredible Hulk," but for me, that role will always be associated with Bill Bixby

What I noticed about the comments was the fact that many saw it in their youth. They already had an attachment to it. I mean there is no way I could get my kids or grandkids into that series. Die hard, yes. Sherlock Holmes yes, Columbo yes, but all them were the Seinfeld audience. Still are.

What I noticed about Bixby was that he made acting look easy and he and Lou made it believable. The compassion was there, radiating from within. However one could see it in bisby’s eyes. You could tell he was a kind and compassionate man. Just his easy going composure put the audience at ease. It did me.

I am too impatient with quick scenes with people walking or staring, I need the next thing coming fast.

My major interest as a child and today was watching the science fiction stuff. You watch and down the years it is a gadget or software on your computer.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

I think i will talk to john first and see what he has to say before saying anything to tom,If john is good with it then no reason why i shouldnt right?

That would make John feel good. Tell him I’m mad too! He will advise you on telling tom.

 

[Elusivebutterfly]

Elusivebutterfly
That guy that bullied him for years he should have been JAILED for that.someone like that should not be allowed to walk the streets,same with his a$$hole friends,that evil hulk should have killed them as well,they were just as bad.especially that fat guy.

I can understand that old guy going in there to provoke him to hit him so he could hulk out and beat him up,he had been bullying him for YEARS so it would be hard to resist that temptation,you would want some kind of revenge.

However what is NOT forgiveable by him is that while i would not fault himself for not turning himself in for what he had done to that guy sense he had it coming to him,he SHOULD have listened to david and cooperated with him when he tried to cure him so he would not become the hulk again.it was inexcusable for hm to want to REMAIN being able to hulk out after he already killed a man sense he would kill others as well in the future.

thats the difference between him and david banner is banner can NEVER kill because he has a conscience and is a good person,so when HE hulks out,all he does is throw someone around or throw something harmless at them to knock them down as he did in the beginning.

that old guy has no conscience and craves power so HIS evil inside him emerges when he hulks out. Notice how the first time he hulked out,he grabbed davids wrist? because of his strength,it hurt david and he was in pain and he ALSO tried to throw something at him. David was smart playing possem pretending to be knocked out. david did NOTHING to him and yet the guy was throwing things at him and reached out and gripped him hurting him. David NEVER does that when he becomes the hulk.

oh how about the second time he hulked out when david was trying to cure him.He was beating up on david throwing him around when david did NOTHING to him. same with that sherrif,that sherrif had done nothing to him yet he was going to throw a table at him?

oh and two other things here.

1-did you notice that the bad hulk REALLY looked evil? He looked like a wolfman when HE became the hulk

2-and did you notice it that when he hulked out in the bar when that guy beat him up and when he was on the table after david tried to cure him,that he had a big grin on his face and was ENJOYING it that he was becoming the hulk?


totally different than bixbys reaction.check back again to when HE first became the hulk and HE looks scared and is trying to FIGHT it.


oh and as i said before,when that episode FIRST came out back then,when bixby started crying,he made ME cry back then,i STILL remember to this day tears coming out of my eyes.

It doesnt make me cry NOW when i watch it but it STILL gives me goosebumps EVERYIME I watch it.

guess what? i was not the ONLY person back them who bixby made cry and found it really touching when he could not cure himself and he broke out crying,MANY others did as well.look at all these comments i found from people that watched that show back then below.

and "The First." Banner breaking into tears after losing his cure in "The First" still gets me.

see what he said there butterfly? SAME as me,it STILL gets him.

Like you said that other hulk was a menace, bullied or not bullied. He looked downright mean and scary, as you noted. With power like that, he would never want to give it up, but like a rabid dog the show needed to put him down.

You have to be invested in a character to cry with them. It tells me you pay close attention to what you are watching and focus on what their goal is. It isn’t that bixby was a failure, it was out of his control being a hulk and losing the cure. One understands his plight and his resolve. You have great empathy and I knew that because of your dog and the way you viewed Clark.