Skeptics Win, Endangerment Finding Axed – Truth Finally Prevails in The Climate Wars

[22lcidw]

MAGA

If only those pushing it lived like the common man. If the world was ending in any of the dates, we would be forced to live that way. Evil is evil.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I really don't know what else to say.

Trump EPA seeks to repeal finding that carbon dioxide emissions threaten public health

The Trump administration is seeking to repeal a landmark finding that greenhouse gas emissions pose a threat to public health, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday.

“This has been referred to as basically driving a dagger into the heart of the climate change religion,” EPA administrator Lee Zeldin told the conservative “Ruthless Podcast.” “Repealing it will be the largest deregulatory action in the history of America,” Zeldin said

The EPA under the Obama administration issued an endangerment finding in 2009 that carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases “threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations.”

The finding is the basis for Clean Air Act regulations aimed at combating climate change by limiting vehicle and power plant emissions.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/29/epa...dioxide-emissions-threaten-public-health.html

My first reaction was no way this succeeds. But who or what will stop it? Not Congress. Not the courts. Not scientific evidence. This is far worse than anything I have contemplated. The most reckless thing that could be dreamed up for the future of the coming generations.

Back to the ice age of the 70's eh!
Relax, if there is one thing flim-flam artists like the climate change televangelists are good at it's finding new ways into the vault.

 

[Independent thinker]

I really don't know what else to say.

Trump EPA seeks to repeal finding that carbon dioxide emissions threaten public health

The Trump administration is seeking to repeal a landmark finding that greenhouse gas emissions pose a threat to public health, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday.

“This has been referred to as basically driving a dagger into the heart of the climate change religion,” EPA administrator Lee Zeldin told the conservative “Ruthless Podcast.” “Repealing it will be the largest deregulatory action in the history of America,” Zeldin said

The EPA under the Obama administration issued an endangerment finding in 2009 that carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases “threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations.”

The finding is the basis for Clean Air Act regulations aimed at combating climate change by limiting vehicle and power plant emissions.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/29/epa...dioxide-emissions-threaten-public-health.html

My first reaction was no way this succeeds. But who or what will stop it? Not Congress. Not the courts. Not scientific evidence. This is far worse than anything I have contemplated. The most reckless thing that could be dreamed up for the future of the coming generations.

The berg's daily anti-Trump thread. Who would have ever guessed?

 

[The Irish Ram]

“This has been referred to as basically driving a dagger into the heart of the climate change religion,” EPA administrator Lee Zeldin

Yes. We are done with the WEF/Obama climate bullshit.

We can’t do anything about natural disasters
We can control the shit we put into the air

Have you missed the part where Gates' chem trails are poisoning our air? If they were actually concerned about the quality of our air, they would shut his shit down.
We have 2 issues now. The robbing of our bank accounts by way of the green scam, and the depopulation Gates is preforming by releasing poisons into the air we breathe...

 

[berg80]

Relax, if there is one thing flim-flam artists like the climate change televangelists

You mean like a friend of mine who is among a group of Nobel prize winning scientists working at NCAR in Boulder? Their work having been done on climate change.

"While no scientists from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) have won a Nobel Prize outright, NCAR scientists have shared in Nobel Prizes awarded to other organizations they contributed to. For example, some NCAR scientists were involved in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007."

Those folks are nose to the ground scientists pursuing climate change research. Not "flim-flam artists like the climate change televangelists." I'd love for him to be able to sit down with and you explain how full of shit you are.

 

[Nostra]

Combatting climate change involves global cooperation


Commie, Commie, Commie does not refute anything

Get back to us when China stops building a coal power plant every week, Trollwinger.

 

[Nostra]

Facts mean nothing to them. Everything is ideological. And for Dotard, it's all about making the economy hum so he can take credit for it. Never mind it's founded on deficit spending and doing permanent harm to the environment.

Is NYC under water yet?

 

[jc456]

Trump and his supporters don't care about that, they have contempt for sound, responsible governance.

what is the problem with CO2 in the atmosphere? You know we need to survive right? So what is the real issue you are trying to solve? Tell us, teach and show how smart you are.

 

[Frankenstein]

We now release 37 billion tons of Co2 into the atmosphere -- every year.



Probably because they're somewhat ignorant about the cost/benefit of renewables, but that doesn't invalidate their concerns about emissions.



Yeah, let's all rake the forest floors, shall we? LMAO

which renewables

 

[Frankenstein]

Ah yes, the glorious rapture. The ultimate and longest conspiracy theory.

Ya know, this is what makes people think you and your cohorts are idiots, you preach tolerance, and diversity and the make statements like this. Anything that doesn't toe the line for your views is shouted down. What an ass

 

[blackhawk]

What great personal sacrifice has anyone here made in the name of climate change? Lots of people love to *****, piss and moan about climate change but I suspect few have given up any modern day conveniences that make their everyday life easier and more enjoyable to fight it. Most who insist sacrifices have to be made almost always mean by someone other than themselves.

 

[Frankenstein]

What great personal sacrifice has anyone here made in the name of climate change? Lots of people love to *****, piss and moan about climate change but I suspect few have given up any modern day conveniences that make their everyday life easier and more enjoyable to fight it. Most who insist sacrifices have to be made almost always mean by someone other than themselves.

Agreed ya don't see politicians not taking their suburbans everywhere and not flying all over Gods green Earth to fund-raise and grease palms

 

[rightwinger]

Those folks are nose to the ground scientists pursuing climate change research. Not "flim-flam artists like the climate change televangelists." I'd love for him to be able to sit down with and you explain how full of shit you are

It is hard to win an argument with intelligent people, it is impossible to win an argument with stupid people

 

[jc456]

We now release 37 billion tons of Co2 into the atmosphere -- every year.

how's that bad? explain the issue that causes.

 

[jc456]

What great personal sacrifice has anyone here made in the name of climate change? Lots of people love to *****, piss and moan about climate change but I suspect few have given up any modern day conveniences that make their everyday life easier and more enjoyable to fight it. Most who insist sacrifices have to be made almost always mean by someone other than themselves.

well, why should we when they can't state what the issue is?

CO2 is needed to remain alive. They treat it as a virus.

 

[Old Rocks]

Once again you post a dishonest narrative since no one here is disputing that CO2 absorbs IR, the dispute lies in how much Warm Forcing it has left at the 430 ppm level, which I have addressed several times already which YOU ignore every time because you know you can't refute it.

Since the majority, 93%, of the warming is absorbed in the oceans, and those effects are just now being felt, it has a great deal of warming left to do. In fact, we are already on track to exceed 1.5 C, and even 2 C no matter what we do. I would not be surprised to see us knocking on the door of 3 C by 2050. Just looking at the atmospheric warming from 1979 to present shows an accelerating warming;

 

[TemplarKormac]

It is hard to win an argument with intelligent people, it is impossible to win an argument with stupid people

And where I come from, we kiss people on the forehead.

 

[Frankenstein]

You mean like a friend of mine who is among a group of Nobel prize winning scientists working at NCAR in Boulder? Their work having been done on climate change.

"While no scientists from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) have won a Nobel Prize outright, NCAR scientists have shared in Nobel Prizes awarded to other organizations they contributed to. For example, some NCAR scientists were involved in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007."

Those folks are nose to the ground scientists pursuing climate change research. Not "flim-flam artists like the climate change televangelists." I'd love for him to be able to sit down with and you explain how full of shit you are.

Scientists depend on grants, and they will say what you want to get them.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

You mean like a friend of mine who is among a group of Nobel prize winning scientists working at NCAR in Boulder? Their work having been done on climate change.

Nobel prizes are no longer the meaningful prize they once were, it has been cheapened by being awarded for such things as you cite here, it is part of the flim-flam scam...announce the problem, claim the work of the minions /press/holy book back you up, nominate/give them an award and voila...proof for the faithful... Nobel has become todays ultimate participation trophy.

"While no scientists from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) have won a Nobel Prize outright, NCAR scientists have shared in Nobel Prizes awarded to other organizations they contributed to. For example, some NCAR scientists were involved in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007."

Yes, that is how it works, now change those names to other organizations and you will have the same amount of proof that you have there/here...that actually bolsters my claim.

Those folks are nose to the ground scientists pursuing climate change research. Not "flim-flam artists like the climate change televangelists." I'd love for him to be able to sit down with and you explain how full of shit you are.

As the hard-working followers of any televangelist are.

 

[Rawley]

I really don't know what else to say.

Trump EPA seeks to repeal finding that carbon dioxide emissions threaten public health

The Trump administration is seeking to repeal a landmark finding that greenhouse gas emissions pose a threat to public health, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday.

“This has been referred to as basically driving a dagger into the heart of the climate change religion,” EPA administrator Lee Zeldin told the conservative “Ruthless Podcast.” “Repealing it will be the largest deregulatory action in the history of America,” Zeldin said

The EPA under the Obama administration issued an endangerment finding in 2009 that carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases “threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations.”

The finding is the basis for Clean Air Act regulations aimed at combating climate change by limiting vehicle and power plant emissions.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/29/epa...dioxide-emissions-threaten-public-health.html

My first reaction was no way this succeeds. But who or what will stop it? Not Congress. Not the courts. Not scientific evidence. This is far worse than anything I have contemplated. The most reckless thing that could be dreamed up for the future of the coming generations.

Can you quantify, with scientifically measured data, how this regulation has improved the public health and welfare of current and future generations.?