Skeptics Win, Endangerment Finding Axed – Truth Finally Prevails in The Climate Wars

[konradv]

I'm disappointed, I expected a Godsmack video in this thread. Also, by pretending CO2 is the same thing as NOx, SOx, particulates and things like mercury, ACTUAL pollutants, diverts the EPA away from working on things that matter far more.

Trump proposes gutting the EPA, so how does that work?

EPA Proposes Significant Budget Reduction for Fiscal Year 2026 | Insights | Holland & Knight

 

[martybegan]

Trump proposes gutting the EPA, so how does that work?

EPA Proposes Significant Budget Reduction for Fiscal Year 2026 | Insights | Holland & Knight

It's gotten too big, due to its focus on the AGW crap.

The remaining staff can handle actual issues of pollution that crosses State boundaries and has national impacts.

 

[jc456]

I really don't know what else to say.

Trump EPA seeks to repeal finding that carbon dioxide emissions threaten public health

The Trump administration is seeking to repeal a landmark finding that greenhouse gas emissions pose a threat to public health, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency said Tuesday.

“This has been referred to as basically driving a dagger into the heart of the climate change religion,” EPA administrator Lee Zeldin told the conservative “Ruthless Podcast.” “Repealing it will be the largest deregulatory action in the history of America,” Zeldin said

The EPA under the Obama administration issued an endangerment finding in 2009 that carbon dioxide and five other greenhouse gases “threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations.”

The finding is the basis for Clean Air Act regulations aimed at combating climate change by limiting vehicle and power plant emissions.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/29/epa...dioxide-emissions-threaten-public-health.html

My first reaction was no way this succeeds. But who or what will stop it? Not Congress. Not the courts. Not scientific evidence. This is far worse than anything I have contemplated. The most reckless thing that could be dreamed up for the future of the coming generations.

interesting, so, you highlight carbon dioxide threatens health, and then the discussion is about climate change. How is one synonymous with the other. Carbon Dioxide is bad to breathe, pollution, and why we now have catalytic converters on gas vehicles. You have no evidence Carbon Dioxide causes climate change. Just post it? So Zeldin is spot fking on!!!!

 

[jc456]

Trump proposes gutting the EPA, so how does that work?

EPA Proposes Significant Budget Reduction for Fiscal Year 2026 | Insights | Holland & Knight

Finally, what? Another demofk la la land agency

 

[Sunsettommy]

The effects that GHG's have on the atmosphere was proven scientifically in 1858, both in the US by Foote and in England by Tyndall. All the flap-yap here by denialists does not affect the fact that we are creating a real bad situation for ourselves by continuing to emit GHG's one bit. But the dummkopf's will continue to lie and mislead on this topic as they cannot disentangle their insane politics from their lack of perception of science.

Once again you post a dishonest narrative since no one here is disputing that CO2 absorbs IR, the dispute lies in how much Warm Forcing it has left at the 430 ppm level, which I have addressed several times already which YOU ignore every time because you know you can't refute it.

 

[Nostra]

Yes they did, before humans. Prove me wrong.

So your Cult taught you that before there were humans?

 

[Nostra]

Trump proposes gutting the EPA, so how does that work?

EPA Proposes Significant Budget Reduction for Fiscal Year 2026 | Insights | Holland & Knight

You cut off their money so they have to get their jackboots off the neck of Americans, Simp.

Next stupid question?

 

[konradv]

So your Cult taught you that before there were humans?

You don’t believe there was a time before humans?!

 

[Nostra]

interesting, so, you highlight carbon dioxide threatens health, and then the discussion is about climate change. How is one synonymous with the other. Carbon Dioxide is bad to breathe, pollution, and why we now have catalytic converters on gas vehicles. You have no evidence Carbon Dioxide causes climate change. Just post it? So Zeldin is spot fking on!!!!

But that Madcow dude on MSLSD tells him to think that. Thats all the proof the mindless Cult morons need.

 

[Nostra]

You don’t believe there was a time before humans?!

Sure there was, stupid. Tell us again how your Cult indoctrinated you before humans.

 

[Nostra]

Yes they did, before humans. Prove me wrong.

How often do you hold your MMGW Cult meetings?

 

[jc456]

You don’t believe there was a time before humans?!

why can't you articulate the issue with higher CO2 in the atmosphere? I can tell you that more CO2 is actually good for the environment, trees and plants love it! Do you know you exhale CO2? Maybe you shouldn't breathe anymore! hahahaahahahaahahahaha total idiot you are.

 

[rightwinger]

Rational people don't believe we need to enact world socialism and lower our standards of living over this.

We refuse to fall for the bullshit being put out by Watermelons.

Combatting climate change involves global cooperation


Commie, Commie, Commie does not refute anything

 

[berg80]

Humans have put 1.5 TRILLION tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, dipshit.

If you have to go all the way back to 1883 for 25 million tons, you've already lost the argument.

Facts mean nothing to them. Everything is ideological. And for Dotard, it's all about making the economy hum so he can take credit for it. Never mind it's founded on deficit spending and doing permanent harm to the environment.

 

[jc456]

Facts mean nothing to them. Everything is ideological. And for Dotard, it's all about making the economy hum so he can take credit for it. Never mind it's founded on deficit spending and doing permanent harm to the environment.

name a fact.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is far worse than anything I have contemplated. The most reckless thing that could be dreamed up for the future of the coming generations.

Trump and his supporters don't care about that, they have contempt for sound, responsible governance.

 

[whitehall]

Limmo liberals who jet all over the world spreading anti-American propaganda want to blame global warming on middle class Americans who drive gas guzzling trucks. "Blame the dark on the devil, blame the devil on the dark but it ain't my fault".....Brothers Osborne.

 

[berg80]

Trump and his supporters don't care about that, they have contempt for sound, responsible governance.

I haven't read an assessment of the idea's chances yet. I'm sure there will be some kind of review process. But if the final decision is up to the EPA it's a fait de accompli.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Rational people don't believe we need to enact world socialism and lower our standards of living over this.

We refuse to fall for the bullshit being put out by Watermelons.

And as usual the willfully ignorant right refuses to acknowledge the fact of human caused climate change.

 

[berg80]

And as usual the willfully ignorant right refuses to acknowledge the fact of human caused climate change.

That's a given since they eschew most facts. This is something more affirmative in furtherance of taking proactive steps to degrade the environment.