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Since there is no test for the Delta Variant, how do they know who has it?

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PCR testing, which has been used for Covid-19 is the way they have determined it.

It identifies the virus through it's DNA.

Same test as before... just the slow results instead of the antibody tests which are really fast.
But not necessarily---they are saying the variant DELTA has itself VARIATED and now not only is there DELTA but there is DELTA PLUS and others coming off the Delta. There is no stopping this virus at this point----

Let it run its course, kill who it is going to kill and hopefully burn out. This slow feeding it with vaccines is only allowing for more variations and more deaths---
 

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But not necessarily---they are saying the variant DELTA has itself VARIATED and now not only is there DELTA but there is DELTA PLUS and others coming off the Delta. There is no stopping this virus at this point----

Let it run its course, kill who it is going to kill and hopefully burn out. This slow feeding it with vaccines is only allowing for more variations and more deaths---
Apparently it's going to take out more of the unvaccinated first and let's hope it doesn't mutate through you retards and kills even more people who otherwise would be protected with the current vaccines.
 

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Apparently it's going to take out more of the unvaccinated first and let's hope it doesn't mutate through you retards and kills even more people who otherwise would be protected with the current vaccines.
Baby I have tried a million times to explain things to you nitwitted dems. Those of us who have the virus have natural immunity which is far far superior than vaccinated people. 1) Virus's are designed basically to flash burn.......they run their course speeding up the death of the weak and infirmed in nature--(this is their job). Once they fed off most of the weaker animals (humans are animals) their food supply is depleted and they fade away. 2) The vaccines are stopping this process and ENABLING the virus to stay around longer, not eat up its food supply, which allows it to mutate killing more. The vaccines are creating Typhoid Marys by the millions basically-----spreaders of this disease with multiple variants and hundreds more to come. 3) And finally dipshit, for the last time, the virus is hitting dem controlled areas targeting miniorities heavily for attack. The victims aren't conservatives (who tend to be a bit more standishoffish and more personal space conscious and who practice decent hygiene like handwashing----------its going after dems which is likely due to the illegals that Biden is flooding over and the cultural attitudes of irresponsible dems and the ever present poorer health of the miniorities in general.
 

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Fauci being dismissive of the first round when he played it up as ender of mankind
He will say anything
 

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Trump never had an issue with vaccines. It was his Operation Warp Speed that gave us the vaccines.

Trump DID however REALLY did grab a pussy.

Not true, if a person can cut through all the COVID BS on the web there's old stories he had issues with vaccines. I don't know the specifics, but it was years before COVID.
 

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But not necessarily---they are saying the variant DELTA has itself VARIATED and now not only is there DELTA but there is DELTA PLUS and others coming off the Delta. There is no stopping this virus at this point----

Let it run its course, kill who it is going to kill and hopefully burn out. This slow feeding it with vaccines is only allowing for more variations and more deaths---

Ok but it's difficult to vaccinate the whole world at the same time.

The variant is in the crown or corona. Those little spikes are the things that keep changing. The mRNA vaccines are easy and quick enough to produce to make them work on the variants BUT the science needs fully testing before they let it out on the GP.

You don't want to build antibodies against something that is normally present in your body that you need. (Like the different membranes around organs)

They have been working on variants with the vaccines...from the mRNA type to the Novovax variation.

Last I heard they were in stage 3 of testing...no word on whether they were going to allow emergency approval or not for the boosters on the variants. But I'm imagining they will.

The scariest variant to date is the African variant...we will want protection against that one....it's almost ebola like in effect. Very increased mortality.

I'm looking for the boosters to be ready this Fall or Winter. Maybe by Spring we can get them. Until then....
 

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Baby I have tried a million times to explain things to you nitwitted dems. Those of us who have the virus have natural immunity which is far far superior than vaccinated people. 1) Virus's are designed basically to flash burn.......they run their course speeding up the death of the weak and infirmed in nature--(this is their job). Once they fed off most of the weaker animals (humans are animals) their food supply is depleted and they fade away. 2) The vaccines are stopping this process and ENABLING the virus to stay around longer, not eat up its food supply, which allows it to mutate killing more. The vaccines are creating Typhoid Marys by the millions basically-----spreaders of this disease with multiple variants and hundreds more to come. 3) And finally dipshit, for the last time, the virus is hitting dem controlled areas targeting miniorities heavily for attack. The victims aren't conservatives (who tend to be a bit more standishoffish and more personal space conscious and who practice decent hygiene like handwashing----------its going after dems which is likely due to the illegals that Biden is flooding over and the cultural attitudes of irresponsible dems and the ever present poorer health of the miniorities in general.

Yeah, you really don't understand this.

If we simply let the virus run it's course then we'd have millions dead. We also don't value life solely on who would and who would not survive a virus. You know this right, Doctor Mengele? More people would die and not just those who get COVID but because more people would end up in the hospital at once it would (and did before) clog up our healthcare system so that people who had other medical issues either delayed treatment for and even died due to other health issues.

Also, genius, if we let the virus spread further would mean the chances for it to mutate more and more and become deadlier. Possibly attacking and killing those who had COVID before or are vaccinated. Not a single serious person thinks that getting COVID once means you are immune for life. Virus mutations don't happen due to time necessarily. Vaccines are more likely to mutate the more people get infected, viruses need hosts to change and the more hosts the more likely there will be newer variants. But your retarded ass can't even understand that very simple idea.

We already know many suffer from long haul COVID that will have lingering symptoms and possibly permanently damaging their bodies.

You're an idiot, one of many who is keeping this virus around unnecessarily. Please, go start a country somewhere else call is PseudoLibertarina or something. No one you don't like will try to emigrate there, hell you won't even have undue foreign influence like trade to get in your way of your moronic ideology, I hear some of the Jones Town buildings haven't completely collapsed yet. You will be left alone and happy and everyone else can move on with their lives here.
 
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The answers quickly became clear: People infected with the Delta variant were getting sick much faster after being exposed. They had viral loads more than 1,000 times higher at that point, meaning they were much more likely to spread the illness to others. This also meant they were becoming infectious earlier and more quickly.

Looking only at cases for which they could determine the exact time of exposure, researchers found that the time interval from exposure to positive PCR test ranged from three to five days, with a peak at 3.71 days. In contrast, data from the 2020 outbreak showed that it took an average of six days from exposure to positive test with a range of five to eight days and a peak at 5.61.

Not only were Delta-infected individuals testing positive two days earlier, on average, they were also way more infectious by the time their infections were detectible. And by “way more infectious,” we’re talking about viral loads that were an average of 1,260 times higher than those observed in individuals infected with the original strain of the virus.
So they are guessing.

Got it.
 
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That is why you remain ignorant and stupid.

The answer is in the link, but since you admit that you didn't read it you don't know what the answer is that is not being smart.

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"If individual testing doesn’t reveal delta, how do we know it is in play?

PolitiFact ruling​

PolitiFact: Mostly False
Individuals are not being diagnosed with the delta variant.

Routine individual tests don’t reveal whether COVID-19 was caused by the delta variant. Scientists use genomic sequencing to determine what percentage of cases were caused by the variant.
This post contains an element of truth, but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression.

We rate it Mostly False."

===

You are indeed stupid for ignoring the link, another leftist turd just entered the ignore list to avoid your bullshit.
Dimtard s like him don’t want to be educated on any topic they act like they are an expert on.
 
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So, they look for the variant through genomic testing, not through testing if someone has COVID themselves. it's two different tests conducted at different times for different reasons. Not sure what's so complicated that the wingnuts can't get their heads around this.

EDIT: It's not like this isn't explained in the OPs fucking link.
What percentage of tests are backed up by genomic testing?
 
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I notice you didn't answer his reasonable question, why was that so hard for to do?

By the way there doesn't appear to be a test for it at this time.

:rolleyes:
No one has to answer the question it is provided in the link from OP.

But through what is known as genomic sequencing, public health officials examine samples of cases to estimate what percentage were caused by delta.

Genomic sequencing from a positive test sample, said Stephen Morse, professor of epidemiology at Columbia University Medical Center, "would tell you unequivocally what variant infected that person."
 

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Apparently it's going to take out more of the unvaccinated first and let's hope it doesn't mutate through you retards and kills even more people who otherwise would be protected with the current vaccines.
Vaccinated people are dying. They are getting covid, they are getting delta, they are DYING.
 

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The variant is in the crown or corona. Those little spikes are the things that keep changing.
What variant are these spikes?

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That is not what I read from the Times of India. Only right-wingers prefer propaganda.
I just checked with quest diagnostics to see if they offer a delta test. They don't.
 

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No one has to answer the question it is provided in the link from OP.

But through what is known as genomic sequencing, public health officials examine samples of cases to estimate what percentage were caused by delta.

Genomic sequencing from a positive test sample, said Stephen Morse, professor of epidemiology at Columbia University Medical Center, "would tell you unequivocally what variant infected that person."
How would you go about finding out if you have delta?
 

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