Simple and Honest Qst. on Trump's deportation scheme....

[HereWeGoAgain]

I dont buy used cars.
And I guess you could could go pick yourself a nice hardly used Buick Skylark. So whats your complaint again?

The reality is, if 11 million people suddenly leave the economy prices and values crash.

Your house? Nearly worthless as we have millions of empty ones just falling apart.

LOL ...Just how many of these mansions are going to flood the market?

Housing units, several million, crashing both rents and home values, including yours.

Nobody who would buy my house would have any interest in barrio dwellings.
And you should be for more affordable housing for the poor,which is exactly what you'd get when there became an abundance of said dwellings.
Why do you hate poor people?

We already have millions of empty housing units. If you thought the housing bubble was bad when it burst just add another set of millions of units on top of that and watch values plunge and maybe never recover. Who's going to to be paying for your house when they can live rent-free just down the road? Not only that, the house they squat in is fully furnished, it even comes with cars and clothes. Winner, winner, taco dinner in the fridge.

Cant tell if serious.......

 

[BettyYeti]

How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products...

What fool said that?

So you're one of the only liberals on the planet who admit that higher min wages will actually make products more expensive?
Be sure and spread the word to the other 99.999 percent because they can't seem to grasp the concept.

Oh...and can I get that in writing?

There is no free lunch. The costs have to be recovered. The issue is, are we better off if you pay more for A but the guy down the street has more money to buy what you make, B?

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

It makes perfect sense, if you know economics. The deal you get on light bulbs from China doesn't feed the family next door, if he made light bulbs. And if all you can afford is crap from China, that's feeding China not America. Raising wages, within reason, spreads the wealth which in turn creates more wealth. I know, you never heard of such a thing. Most haven't.

 

[Mertex]

You invited them. Cheap labor.

What a partisan hack,both sides have allowed unfettered immigration.
But only Conservative voters actually want to do something about it.

And what they want to do is idiotic, and could crash the economy.

Why are you against higher wages for low income Americans?
I dont know about you but i'd be more than happy to pay a little more to get my lawn cut by legal American citizens.

It wouldnt be a little more, it would be a lot more. Think double, and four times as much for produce, if you can get it at all.

How's that? Most of the fruits and vegetables I buy come from mexico and other south american countries.

But let me ask you this on a related subject.
How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products yet they claim the loss of workers will make products more expensive?
Hmmmmm.....

It's simple for those who can think. Raising the minimum wage increases the spending power of individuals - more disposable income, people are able to buy more things and companies see higher profit, which in turn can lower product costs.

The loss of workers, especially migrant workers who pick fruits and vegetables....if the farmers have to pay Americans to do the work, they won't work for the amount migrant workers do....and therefore it will cost the farmer more....and he passes on the cost to the consumer.


A Donald Trump presidency could lead to food shortages in the US

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products...

What fool said that?

So you're one of the only liberals on the planet who admit that higher min wages will actually make products more expensive?
Be sure and spread the word to the other 99.999 percent because they can't seem to grasp the concept.

Oh...and can I get that in writing?

There is no free lunch. The costs have to be recovered. The issue is, are we better off if you pay more for A but the guy down the street has more money to buy what you make, B?

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

It makes perfect sense, if you know economics. The deal you get on light bulbs from China doesn't feed the family next door, if he made light bulbs. And if all you can afford is crap from China, that's feeding China not America. Raising wages, within reason, spreads the wealth which in turn creates more wealth. I know, you never heard of such a thing. Most haven't.

So you're saying we don't use Chinese light bulbs right now?
You're just spewing nonsense at this point..

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What a partisan hack,both sides have allowed unfettered immigration.
But only Conservative voters actually want to do something about it.

And what they want to do is idiotic, and could crash the economy.

Why are you against higher wages for low income Americans?
I dont know about you but i'd be more than happy to pay a little more to get my lawn cut by legal American citizens.

It wouldnt be a little more, it would be a lot more. Think double, and four times as much for produce, if you can get it at all.

How's that? Most of the fruits and vegetables I buy come from mexico and other south american countries.

But let me ask you this on a related subject.
How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products yet they claim the loss of workers will make products more expensive?
Hmmmmm.....

It's simple for those who can think. Raising the minimum wage increases the spending power of individuals - more disposable income, people are able to buy more things and companies see higher profit, which in turn can lower product costs.

The loss of workers, especially migrant workers who pick fruits and vegetables....if the farmers have to pay Americans to do the work, they won't work for the amount migrant workers do....and therefore it will cost the farmer more....and he passes on the cost to the consumer.


A Donald Trump presidency could lead to food shortages in the US

But dingleberry already said he admitted that raising the min wage did indeed raise the cost of products.
So tell me again how this helps the min wage worker in the form of buying power?

 

[Mertex]

How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products...

What fool said that?

Studies have been done. Seattle upped the minimum wage and it didn't cause prices to go up.

Most Seattle employers surveyed in a University of Washington-led study said in 2015 that they expected to raise prices on goods and services to compensate for the city’s move to a $15 per hour minimum wage.

But a year after the law’s April 2015 implementation, the study indicates such increases don’t seem to be happening.
Early analysis of Seattle’s $15 wage law: Effect on prices minimal one year after implementation | UW Today

 

[BettyYeti]

The reality is, if 11 million people suddenly leave the economy prices and values crash.

Your house? Nearly worthless as we have millions of empty ones just falling apart.

LOL ...Just how many of these mansions are going to flood the market?

Housing units, several million, crashing both rents and home values, including yours.

Nobody who would buy my house would have any interest in barrio dwellings.
And you should be for more affordable housing for the poor,which is exactly what you'd get when there became an abundance of said dwellings.
Why do you hate poor people?

We already have millions of empty housing units. If you thought the housing bubble was bad when it burst just add another set of millions of units on top of that and watch values plunge and maybe never recover. Who's going to to be paying for your house when they can live rent-free just down the road? Not only that, the house they squat in is fully furnished, it even comes with cars and clothes. Winner, winner, taco dinner in the fridge.

Cant tell if serious.......

Deadly. It's supply and demand. If they leave there is too much supply and too little demand. Prices and values crash. Four million fewer kids to teach, for example, means 160,000 teaching jobs just went away, and 80,000 school bus drivers, teachers aides, school administrators, custodians, after-school daycare workers, pencil and crayon makers, etc., all of whom can no longer afford to buy lunch at the diner, go to the movies, buy new clothes, cars, houses, and furniture, affecting everyone involved with that. If the cash doesn't flow you get a recession that turns into a depression. In a house of cards it's critical that everyone stay at the table and play. If a few leave, the game is over and everyone is screwed.

You either grow or you die - it's basic economics.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products...

What fool said that?

Studies have been done. Seattle upped the minimum wage and it didn't cause prices to go up.

Most Seattle employers surveyed in a University of Washington-led study said in 2015 that they expected to raise prices on goods and services to compensate for the city’s move to a $15 per hour minimum wage.

But a year after the law’s April 2015 implementation, the study indicates such increases don’t seem to be happening.
Early analysis of Seattle’s $15 wage law: Effect on prices minimal one year after implementation | UW Today

Yeah.........
Seattle's $15 Minimum Wage: Jobs Down, Unemployment Up. This Isn't Working, Is It?

 

[Mertex]

And what they want to do is idiotic, and could crash the economy.

Why are you against higher wages for low income Americans?
I dont know about you but i'd be more than happy to pay a little more to get my lawn cut by legal American citizens.

It wouldnt be a little more, it would be a lot more. Think double, and four times as much for produce, if you can get it at all.

How's that? Most of the fruits and vegetables I buy come from mexico and other south american countries.

But let me ask you this on a related subject.
How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products yet they claim the loss of workers will make products more expensive?
Hmmmmm.....

It's simple for those who can think. Raising the minimum wage increases the spending power of individuals - more disposable income, people are able to buy more things and companies see higher profit, which in turn can lower product costs.

The loss of workers, especially migrant workers who pick fruits and vegetables....if the farmers have to pay Americans to do the work, they won't work for the amount migrant workers do....and therefore it will cost the farmer more....and he passes on the cost to the consumer.


A Donald Trump presidency could lead to food shortages in the US

But dingleberry already said he admitted that raising the min wage did indeed raise the cost of products.
So tell me again how this helps the min wage worker in the form of buying power?

Who is dingleberry?

And geez...it's not rocket science, unless you just don't want to believe it, for whatever reason.

Google is your friend.

If you're making $7 an hour, you can only spend so much.....making $15 an hour allows you to have twice as much spending power.


Minimum wage increases put money in the pockets of low-wage workers who have little choice but to spend that money immediately in their local communities. Research has shown that raising the minimum wage boosts consumer spending, increasing the demand that drives economic growth.

A 2011 study by the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank finds that minimum wage increases raise incomes and increase consumer spending, especially triggering car purchases. The authors examine 23 years of household spending data and find that for every dollar increase for a minimum wage worker results in $2,800 in new consumer spending by his or her household over the following year.

A 2009 study by the Economic Policy Institute estimates that Obama’s campaign pledge to raise the minimum wage to $9.50 by 2011 would inject $60 billion in additional spending into the economy.
Minimum Wage as Economic Stimulus

 

[BettyYeti]

How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products...

What fool said that?

Studies have been done. Seattle upped the minimum wage and it didn't cause prices to go up.

Most Seattle employers surveyed in a University of Washington-led study said in 2015 that they expected to raise prices on goods and services to compensate for the city’s move to a $15 per hour minimum wage.

But a year after the law’s April 2015 implementation, the study indicates such increases don’t seem to be happening.
Early analysis of Seattle’s $15 wage law: Effect on prices minimal one year after implementation | UW Today

Great, I have no idea what kind of magic they used but here's how I do it. When my costs rise so does what my clients pay. Works out just fine, if kept within reason.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

LOL ...Just how many of these mansions are going to flood the market?

Housing units, several million, crashing both rents and home values, including yours.

Nobody who would buy my house would have any interest in barrio dwellings.
And you should be for more affordable housing for the poor,which is exactly what you'd get when there became an abundance of said dwellings.
Why do you hate poor people?

We already have millions of empty housing units. If you thought the housing bubble was bad when it burst just add another set of millions of units on top of that and watch values plunge and maybe never recover. Who's going to to be paying for your house when they can live rent-free just down the road? Not only that, the house they squat in is fully furnished, it even comes with cars and clothes. Winner, winner, taco dinner in the fridge.

Cant tell if serious.......

Deadly. It's supply and demand. If they leave there is too much supply and too little demand. Prices and values crash. Four million fewer kids to teach, for example, means 160,000 teaching jobs just went away, and 80,000 school bus drivers, teachers aides, school administrators, custodians, after-school daycare workers, pencil and crayon makers, etc., all of whom can no longer afford to buy lunch at the diner, go to the movies, buy new clothes, cars, houses, and furniture, affecting everyone involved with that. If the cash doesn't flow you get a recession that turns into a depression. In a house of cards it's critical that everyone stay at the table and play. If a few leave, the game is over and everyone is screwed.

You either grow or you die - it's basic economics.

There's good growth and bad.
Flooding our country with low income,uneducated morons would be the bad growth I was referring to.

 

[BettyYeti]

How is it that liberals claim higher min wages wouldnt raise the cost of products...

What fool said that?

Studies have been done. Seattle upped the minimum wage and it didn't cause prices to go up.

Most Seattle employers surveyed in a University of Washington-led study said in 2015 that they expected to raise prices on goods and services to compensate for the city’s move to a $15 per hour minimum wage.

But a year after the law’s April 2015 implementation, the study indicates such increases don’t seem to be happening.
Early analysis of Seattle’s $15 wage law: Effect on prices minimal one year after implementation | UW Today

Yeah.........
Seattle's $15 Minimum Wage: Jobs Down, Unemployment Up. This Isn't Working, Is It?

When bad cheap jobs go away people find better jobs, go back to school, start their own businesses, etc. It's a good thing, within reason.

 

[BettyYeti]

Housing units, several million, crashing both rents and home values, including yours.

Nobody who would buy my house would have any interest in barrio dwellings.
And you should be for more affordable housing for the poor,which is exactly what you'd get when there became an abundance of said dwellings.
Why do you hate poor people?

We already have millions of empty housing units. If you thought the housing bubble was bad when it burst just add another set of millions of units on top of that and watch values plunge and maybe never recover. Who's going to to be paying for your house when they can live rent-free just down the road? Not only that, the house they squat in is fully furnished, it even comes with cars and clothes. Winner, winner, taco dinner in the fridge.

Cant tell if serious.......

Deadly. It's supply and demand. If they leave there is too much supply and too little demand. Prices and values crash. Four million fewer kids to teach, for example, means 160,000 teaching jobs just went away, and 80,000 school bus drivers, teachers aides, school administrators, custodians, after-school daycare workers, pencil and crayon makers, etc., all of whom can no longer afford to buy lunch at the diner, go to the movies, buy new clothes, cars, houses, and furniture, affecting everyone involved with that. If the cash doesn't flow you get a recession that turns into a depression. In a house of cards it's critical that everyone stay at the table and play. If a few leave, the game is over and everyone is screwed.

You either grow or you die - it's basic economics.

There's good growth and bad.
Flooding our country with low income,uneducated morons would be the bad growth I was referring to.

Good luck proving how they have been bad for the American economy? No one else can. We need babies, black, white, or brown. They hold the key to your future.

 

[nat4900]

Oh, I'm sorry, is it suddenly racist and xenophobic to enforce the law?

Want to enforce the law, moron? Go after those white, business people (like Trump) who hire and demand more cheap labor to beef up their profits........

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Nobody who would buy my house would have any interest in barrio dwellings.
And you should be for more affordable housing for the poor,which is exactly what you'd get when there became an abundance of said dwellings.
Why do you hate poor people?

We already have millions of empty housing units. If you thought the housing bubble was bad when it burst just add another set of millions of units on top of that and watch values plunge and maybe never recover. Who's going to to be paying for your house when they can live rent-free just down the road? Not only that, the house they squat in is fully furnished, it even comes with cars and clothes. Winner, winner, taco dinner in the fridge.

Cant tell if serious.......

Deadly. It's supply and demand. If they leave there is too much supply and too little demand. Prices and values crash. Four million fewer kids to teach, for example, means 160,000 teaching jobs just went away, and 80,000 school bus drivers, teachers aides, school administrators, custodians, after-school daycare workers, pencil and crayon makers, etc., all of whom can no longer afford to buy lunch at the diner, go to the movies, buy new clothes, cars, houses, and furniture, affecting everyone involved with that. If the cash doesn't flow you get a recession that turns into a depression. In a house of cards it's critical that everyone stay at the table and play. If a few leave, the game is over and everyone is screwed.

You either grow or you die - it's basic economics.

There's good growth and bad.
Flooding our country with low income,uneducated morons would be the bad growth I was referring to.

Good luck proving how they have been bad for the American economy? No one else can. We need babies, black, white, or brown. They hold the key to your future.

Do it for the chiiiiildren!!!
Oh fer fucks sake...there's is plenty of info on the cost to the American tax payer regarding illegals on the internet.
You know it,and I know it.

 

[BettyYeti]

We already have millions of empty housing units. If you thought the housing bubble was bad when it burst just add another set of millions of units on top of that and watch values plunge and maybe never recover. Who's going to to be paying for your house when they can live rent-free just down the road? Not only that, the house they squat in is fully furnished, it even comes with cars and clothes. Winner, winner, taco dinner in the fridge.

Cant tell if serious.......

Deadly. It's supply and demand. If they leave there is too much supply and too little demand. Prices and values crash. Four million fewer kids to teach, for example, means 160,000 teaching jobs just went away, and 80,000 school bus drivers, teachers aides, school administrators, custodians, after-school daycare workers, pencil and crayon makers, etc., all of whom can no longer afford to buy lunch at the diner, go to the movies, buy new clothes, cars, houses, and furniture, affecting everyone involved with that. If the cash doesn't flow you get a recession that turns into a depression. In a house of cards it's critical that everyone stay at the table and play. If a few leave, the game is over and everyone is screwed.

You either grow or you die - it's basic economics.

There's good growth and bad.
Flooding our country with low income,uneducated morons would be the bad growth I was referring to.

Good luck proving how they have been bad for the American economy? No one else can. We need babies, black, white, or brown. They hold the key to your future.

Do it for the chiiiiildren!!!
Oh fer fucks sake...there's is plenty of info on the cost to the American tax payer regarding illegals on the internet.
You know it,and I know it.

You know the costs not the benefits, which are far more.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Oh, I'm sorry, is it suddenly racist and xenophobic to enforce the law?

Want to enforce the law, moron? Go after those white, business people (like Trump) who hire and demand more cheap labor to beef up their profits........

Pretty sure all Conservatives,on this board at least,have all said they'd support high fines for businesses that hired illegals.
I know I would.

 

[nat4900]

You ship them where ever the hell they came from with just the clothes on their backs. They supposedly came here with nothing, they leave with nothing. Unless of course if they save us the money and self deport.

So, picture emptying out the ENTIRE state of Pennsylvania of every living soul in that state, placing them in box cars and buses......and THEN, and only then, agree with the Trumpster.

 

[nat4900]

Joke's on you guys, mostly Democrats get abortions, so you're only killing potential voters.

So, if we're doing you a "favor", who is the real MORON here who opposes legal abortions?

 

[nat4900]

Seize any and all assets to cover the cost of deportation and they can even have whats left,if anything.

Josef Goebbels would really admire your incentive........See how far you've evolved in the GOP?