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[jc456]

You mean what statute prohibits it, right? Under the American system, anything not explicitly forbidden is permitted.

not at all, I'm referring to the statute that says an individual can carry other's ballots legally?

 

[WorldWatcher]

post the statute that allows it.

2022 Georgia Code :: Title 21 - Elections :: Chapter 2 - Elections and Primaries Generally :: Article 10 - Absentee Voting :: § 21-2-385. Procedure for Voting by Absentee Ballot; Advance Voting

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[konradv]

not at all, I'm referring to the statute that says an individual can carry other's ballots legally?

No such statute is necessary.

 

[jc456]

2022 Georgia Code :: Title 21 - Elections :: Chapter 2 - Elections and Primaries Generally :: Article 10 - Absentee Voting :: § 21-2-385. Procedure for Voting by Absentee Ballot; Advance Voting

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Says absentee ballot. Those weren’t absentee ballots. Different

 

[WorldWatcher]

No such statute is necessary.

That would be true if there is not statute that addresses how to return a mail-in ballot. But there is, and it specifically allows others to return mail-in ballots for certain individuals and under certain conditions.

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[jc456]

No such statute is necessary.

Bullshit, ….

 

[jc456]

That would be true if there is not statute that addresses how to return a mail-in ballot. But there is, and it specifically allows others to return mail-in ballots for certain individuals and under certain conditions.

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Nope, it says absentee

 

[konradv]

That would be true if there is not statute that addresses how to return a mail-in ballot. But there is, and it specifically allows others to return mail-in ballots for certain individuals and under certain conditions.

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That was my point, ‘unless otherwise prohibited’.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Says absentee ballot. Those weren’t absentee ballots. Different

Incorrect. Under Georgia Statute any ballot returned other than in person is referred to as an "Absentee Ballot", there is no difference between "Absentee Ballot" and "Mail-in Ballot".

Heck, people that case ballot during early voting prior to election day are still defined under the law as "Absentee Ballots".

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(Oh and note para b. - No reason is needed for using a mail-in ballot.

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[Rigby5]

ZERO people caught on video dropping off ballots more than once.

While I do not think it is illegal, it is a very well know cause of voter fraud, where places like elderly facilities will vote for their patients and drop off hundreds of ballots all at once.
It is well known, documented, and on video.

 

[Rigby5]

What is a mule? I see people dropping off ballots because that’s what the goddamn boxes are for. To drop off ballots.

But the point is in-person voting is safer because of the ID check.
Mail in voting has some safeguards since the post office ensures ballot is sent to the right place.
But mail in has problems since there is no ID check and there can be mishandling, like spouses voting against the wishes of the actual voter.

 

[Rigby5]

Georgia man sues over false ballot fraud claim in film

A federal lawsuit says a Georgia man and his family “have faced threats of violence and live in fear” since the movie “2000 Mules” falsely accused him of ballot fraud during the 2020 election.

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You know it's not against the law to drop off multiple ballots right? Such as relatives and care givers.

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Its not illegal, but is not ideal and perhaps should be illegal?
The mail in ballot has some advantage since at least the Post Office ensured delivery address.
But still no ID check.

 

[Rigby5]

Incorrect. Under Georgia Statute any ballot returned other than in person is referred to as an "Absentee Ballot", there is no difference between "Absentee Ballot" and "Mail-in Ballot".

Heck, people that case ballot during early voting prior to election day are still defined under the law as "Absentee Ballots".

Incorrect.
An absentee ballot requires you to request it in writing, and have the post office ensure the address when delivered.
Then you can mail in or drop off the filled out and sealed ballot.

A "mail-in ballot" is not defined.
It just means it was sent through the mail.
That does not require it to have been put through post office delivery verification.
I am not saying it is illegal, but just that absentee, mail-in, and drop-off ballots are all very different.

 

[g5000]

But the point is in-person voting is safer because of the ID check.
Mail in voting has some safeguards since the post office ensures ballot is sent to the right place.
But mail in has problems since there is no ID check and there can be mishandling, like spouses voting against the wishes of the actual voter.

Trump voted by mail. Is Trump a fraudster?

Hmm...

 

[g5000]

A "mail-in ballot" is not defined.

Yes it is. Mail-in ballots are used by eight states. All ballots in those states are automatically sent to the registered voters of those states, and then returned by mail or at drop boxes.

There is no in-person voting in those states.

 

[Billiejeens]

Yes it is. Mail-in ballots are used by eight states. All ballots in those states are automatically sent to the registered voters of those states, and then returned by mail or at drop boxes.

There is no in-person voting in those states.

And yet
Not what the adults are talking about.

 

[Rigby5]

No such statute is necessary.

There has to be something.
With an absentee ballot, the person is sort of verified by the Post Office when they deliver the ballot.
With in person voting, you have to show an ID.
If someone else is allowed to just bring in a bunch of ballots, then how is there any verification of who was actually voting?

 

[Rigby5]

Trump voted by mail. Is Trump a fraudster?

Hmm...

How do you know is Melania filled it the ballot or not?

The discussion is not about mail in votes as much as when someone drops off hundreds of ballots.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes it is. Mail-in ballots are used by eight states. All ballots in those states are automatically sent to the registered voters of those states, and then returned by mail or at drop boxes.

There is no in-person voting in those states.

I used to vote in OR and they had mail only voting, but it was identical to absentee voting.
You applied ahead of time, they mail you a ballot, and you fill it out, seal it, and mail it back.

The problem is when you have drop boxes and people dump hundreds of ballots at a time?
Are the ballots being verified when distributed?
Are addresses being checked?
Are people printing their own fake ballots and dumping them into drop boxes wholesale?

 

[WorldWatcher]

There has to be something.
With an absentee ballot, the person is sort of verified by the Post Office when they deliver the ballot.

I don't know what you are trying to say. With mail-in ballots (or as some here call them absentee ballots) the Post Office still delivers it to the voter.

Whether the voter uses a drop box or a post office receptical to return it dosn't matter as the Post Office doesn't do anything to "sort of verify" who mailed it.

With in person voting, you have to show an ID.
If someone else is allowed to just bring in a bunch of ballots, then how is there any verification of who was actually voting?

There is the exact same verification between a drop box and a postal box, the package mailed doesn't get any.

The verification comes from processing the security envelope on the inside by multiple means. Such as:

• Each ballot is Bar/QR coded to a specific voter, someone "forging ballots would have to know this exact code".
• With computer tracking systems they know exactly how many ballots were printed, people just showing up with bunches of fraudulent ballots can't happen like 50 years ago.
• Because of these tracking systems, they even prevent someone ordering a mail-in ballot and then voting in person (i.e. voting twice).
• Then you have signature verification,
• Then you have many states adding another step in verification which means providing the drivers license, state ID, or social security number.

Someone (a) matching the Bar/QR code, (b) intercepting the ballot mailed to a certain individual, (c) matching the signature, and (d) having the ID number all for one voter is near impossible. Do do it on a national scale to create millions of votes for one candidate over another? Ain't happen'n.

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