Shouldn't the West all drop the facade of the term "progressive" and just be direct and call them Communists?

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The OP evidently does not have any understanding of what communism is.

None of them do. They just toss the word around like a Frisbee™.

They did it with "socialism", now it scares no one, so they've moved to "communism".

No doubt the real socialists and communists around the world appreciate the assist.

Maybe you should check with immigrants who have come from Communists and Socialists countries to see where they stand. The vast majority of these folks can see where the democrats are headed. It is bone-headed, spoiled Americans who have been indoctrinated to think differently and that there is no way progressive policies would progress to Communism. Most of those that experienced it first hand, see otherwise.

I know, you folks are smarter than those. You know better than them.

Still waiting for the definition and examples.

Deflection doesn't work on me, sorry.

Are you going to force me to beat your ass on this topic a 4th time?

You know good and goddamn well I have laid this out for you and you have had no response.

Are we going there? Really?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No I am very right----which is why you silly communist are so upset...

I'm a CFP/Financial Advisor, and a better capitalist than you could ever dream of being.

Give me the definition of "communism". Go.

You know damn well I have already schooled you on this topic.

 

[Flash]

The term progressive has reached its limit of dishonesty. Let's be honest, progressive is just another term for communist. I see very little difference in their means to expand power, in their view of the individual or businesses and the governments role in them.

I'm not referring to someone wanting to hold businesses accountable, or even higher tax brackets etc. I'm talking about the level of demand for government centralized spending and control over industries. It's as if too many in the West are really buying into (or just looking at how they can profit from, as thy do in Canada) the CCP "philosophy" as being some superior system.

At the very least, let's drop the progressive mantra. please. It's disingenuous.

Here is a funny little definition of progressivism, which tells us really nothing about it's position, but at least they offered the concept of "progressive education", which is what some are pushing for. I.E, social engineering and communism:

Definition of PROGRESSIVISM

the principles, beliefs, or practices of progressives; the political and economic doctrines advocated by the Progressives; the theories of progressive education… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

progressivism​

Definition of progressivism​

1 : the principles, beliefs, or practices of progressives
2 capitalized : the political and economic doctrines advocated by the Progressives
3 : the theories of progressive education

We should call them "regressives".

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No I am very right----which is why you silly communist are so upset...

I'm a CFP/Financial Advisor, and a better capitalist than you could ever dream of being.

Give me the definition of "communism". Go.

...you know what? I have a better idea.

Why don't you give us YOUR definition of communism?

 

[kyzr]

What Progressives support

Affordable healthcare for all
Low cost higher education
Clean environment
Modern Infrastructure
Fair wages

Yea......I guess that makes them Commies

Those democrat policies aren't the ones we oppose, its these:
Open Borders and lax immigration policies
Defund the police
Russia First Energy policies
Lax Military posture
The Green New Deal
"Wokeness"
Support of criminals, no bail, etc.
Reprogramed US education system: Critical Race Theory vs Traditional/Family Values
Oppose school vouchers
China First trade policies
Outsourcing jobs by taxing corporations so much they relocate
HR-1 grab for one-party rule
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.
Packing the US Supreme Court with Leftists

Nice list, but which ones represent a Communist system?

The strictly commie ones are:
Reprogram US education system with Critical Race Theory, a proven commie methodology
HR-1 grab for one-party rule, the commie party
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever with leftists/commies
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote, commie urban voters as pre-programmed
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.
Packing the US Supreme Court with Leftists/commies

They are all bad, but the voters will decide in 2022 and 2024.

LOL

How is making DC and PR states Communist?
How is a popular vote Communist?
You are getting all goofy on me

1. DC & PR are one-party "states", I call that communism
2. The popular vote is unconstitutional, its a stretch, but same result, a one-party system
Keeping two parties to ensure one party never takes control forever is a MUST.

Is Wyoming Communist?
How about Mississippi?

Popular vote equates to one man one vote
How is the will of the people Communist?

Right now the US is somewhat balanced, just look at the presidential elections. If the democrats passed HR-1 the US would be a one party system. Add in their communist policies like, CRT, and democracy is over.

 

[Mac1958]

Give me the definition of "communism". Go.

Total government ownership of all assets including the means of production

Great! So I'm sure you're annoyed with that word being sprayed around.

Funny, I never see you challenging the other Trumpsters on that.

 

[Mac1958]

The OP evidently does not have any understanding of what communism is.

None of them do. They just toss the word around like a Frisbee™.

They did it with "socialism", now it scares no one, so they've moved to "communism".

No doubt the real socialists and communists around the world appreciate the assist.

Maybe you should check with immigrants who have come from Communists and Socialists countries to see where they stand. The vast majority of these folks can see where the democrats are headed. It is bone-headed, spoiled Americans who have been indoctrinated to think differently and that there is no way progressive policies would progress to Communism. Most of those that experienced it first hand, see otherwise.

I know, you folks are smarter than those. You know better than them.

Still waiting for the definition and examples.

Deflection doesn't work on me, sorry.

Are you going to force me to beat your ass on this topic a 4th time?

You know good and goddamn well I have laid this out for you and you have had no response.

Are we going there? Really?

I'm sure you know what you're talking about, but I don't.

Nor do I care, Trumpster.

 

[Mac1958]

No I am very right----which is why you silly communist are so upset...

I'm a CFP/Financial Advisor, and a better capitalist than you could ever dream of being.

Give me the definition of "communism". Go.

...you know what? I have a better idea.

Why don't you give us YOUR definition of communism?

A fellow obedient Trumpster did, in post 118.

Read it. Maybe you'll learn something. ha ha

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No I am very right----which is why you silly communist are so upset...

I'm a CFP/Financial Advisor, and a better capitalist than you could ever dream of being.

Give me the definition of "communism". Go.

...you know what? I have a better idea.

Why don't you give us YOUR definition of communism?

A fellow obedient Trumpster did, in post 118.

Read it. Maybe you'll learn something. ha ha

That would make one of us.

 

[Mac-7]

Give me the definition of "communism". Go.

Total government ownership of all assets including the means of production

Great! So I'm sure you're annoyed with that word being sprayed around.

Funny, I never see you challenging the other Trumpsters on that.

I cant think of many libs who dont lean in that direction

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The term progressive has reached its limit of dishonesty. Let's be honest, progressive is just another term for communist. I see very little difference in their means to expand power, in their view of the individual or businesses and the governments role in them.

I'm not referring to someone wanting to hold businesses accountable, or even higher tax brackets etc. I'm talking about the level of demand for government centralized spending and control over industries. It's as if too many in the West are really buying into (or just looking at how they can profit from, as thy do in Canada) the CCP "philosophy" as being some superior system.

At the very least, let's drop the progressive mantra. please. It's disingenuous.

Here is a funny little definition of progressivism, which tells us really nothing about it's position, but at least they offered the concept of "progressive education", which is what some are pushing for. I.E, social engineering and communism:

Definition of PROGRESSIVISM

the principles, beliefs, or practices of progressives; the political and economic doctrines advocated by the Progressives; the theories of progressive education… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

progressivism​

Definition of progressivism​

1 : the principles, beliefs, or practices of progressives
2 capitalized : the political and economic doctrines advocated by the Progressives
3 : the theories of progressive education

What an absolutely moronic, childish thread. No, progressives are not communists. How fucking stupid. Embarrassing.

 

[rightwinger]

What Progressives support

Affordable healthcare for all
Low cost higher education
Clean environment
Modern Infrastructure
Fair wages

Yea......I guess that makes them Commies

Those democrat policies aren't the ones we oppose, its these:
Open Borders and lax immigration policies
Defund the police
Russia First Energy policies
Lax Military posture
The Green New Deal
"Wokeness"
Support of criminals, no bail, etc.
Reprogramed US education system: Critical Race Theory vs Traditional/Family Values
Oppose school vouchers
China First trade policies
Outsourcing jobs by taxing corporations so much they relocate
HR-1 grab for one-party rule
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.
Packing the US Supreme Court with Leftists

Nice list, but which ones represent a Communist system?

The strictly commie ones are:
Reprogram US education system with Critical Race Theory, a proven commie methodology
HR-1 grab for one-party rule, the commie party
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever with leftists/commies
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote, commie urban voters as pre-programmed
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.
Packing the US Supreme Court with Leftists/commies

They are all bad, but the voters will decide in 2022 and 2024.

LOL

How is making DC and PR states Communist?
How is a popular vote Communist?
You are getting all goofy on me

1. DC & PR are one-party "states", I call that communism
2. The popular vote is unconstitutional, its a stretch, but same result, a one-party system
Keeping two parties to ensure one party never takes control forever is a MUST.

Is Wyoming Communist?
How about Mississippi?

Popular vote equates to one man one vote
How is the will of the people Communist?

Right now the US is somewhat balanced, just look at the presidential elections. If the democrats passed HR-1 the US would be a one party system. Add in their communist policies like, CRT, and democracy is over.

Why your side can’t win

Simplistic rhetoric rooted in the 1950s

 

[Mac-7]

never see you challenging the other Trumpsters on that.

I dont demand that people stop calling you a communist

but neither do you demand that your lefty brothers stop calling me a racist

You just have to learn to roll with the punches

 

[Mac1958]

never see you challenging the other Trumpsters on that.

I dont demand that people stop calling you a communist

but neither do you demand that your lefty brothers stop calling me a racist

You just have to learn to roll with the punches

Wrong again. I've had hundreds of squabbles with Regressive Lefties here over how they scream RACIST at every fucking opportunity, diluting and trivializing a terribly important word, making a bad situation worse, being a part of the problem.

No matter how you try to equate us, I'm nothing like you. Thankfully.

 

[Mac-7]

an absolutely moronic, childish thread. No, progressives are not communists. How fucking stupid. Embarrassing.

Most progressives are infected by the communist bug to some extent

Because they dream of utopia that they believe can be achieved through big government

But most are not expecting or comfortable with the worst horrors of communism

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Progressive = “If you disagree with me you’re racist”

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

never see you challenging the other Trumpsters on that.

I dont demand that people stop calling you a communist

but neither do you demand that your lefty brothers stop calling me a racist

You just have to learn to roll with the punches

Wrong again. I've had hundreds of squabbles with Regressive Lefties here over how they scream RACIST at every fucking opportunity, diluting and trivializing a terribly important word, making a bad situation worse, being a part of the problem.

No matter how you try to equate us, I'm nothing like you. Thankfully.

Lies. Amazing how this dude lies so easily

 

[Dragonlady]

I'm talking about the level of demand for government centralized spending and control over industries.

Where have progressives demanded the government have control over industries?

Can you provide examples or is this just more hyperbole?

There are plenty of examples, you know.

Like Sleepy Joe's massive restrictions on the oil and gas pipeline business, and his proposed new "Cafe" restrictions on auto manufacturing and other restrictions on America's tremendous Firearms Industry.

Even more than that, here in Pennsylvania, the Radical socialists in Harrisburg want to establish a new state government bureaucracy to control the Grass Business with their stupid "cannabis legalization" scheme.

The stupid "cannabis legalization" scheme in Canada has lead to a 66% reduction in the price of pot. Packaging now has THC and CBD content so you know what you're getting, and the Pink Kush that used to cost me $80 a 1/4 oz. from a sketchy guy in Kensington Market, I can now go into a local store and buy $130 legally for $130 an ounce.

 

[Dragonlady]

Progressive = “If you disagree with me you’re racist”

Azog = If you disagree with me, you're an anti-Semite. And FAT!!

 

[harmonica]

..you can have communist policies and still act like nazis

Trump is living proof, y'know, except his brain.

hahhahahahahahahaa--you people babble crap a lot
I provide proof, you provide babble crap