Should you be fined $300 for feeding someone homeless

[Quantum Windbag]

The obvious question, "Which political party votes against helping veterans again and again?"

Miami is overwhelming Democrat, you are going to have a hard time blaming Republicans for this one.

Could be, but I wouldn't bet on it. We know Republicans don't like the poor or the unemployed. It's why they call them names.

Check it out and prove me wrong.

Did you notice who supports the law? Homeless shelters are behind it? Are you going to try and claim that Republicans run homeless shelters because they hate the poor? You really should learn to read and comprehend beofre you start pontificating.

 

[HUGGY]

That law is disgusting. I encourage anyone with a heart to e-mail the mayor and explain what humanity means.

tregalado@miamigov.com.


Thank you.

 

[Madeline]

Miami is overwhelming Democrat, you are going to have a hard time blaming Republicans for this one.

Could be, but I wouldn't bet on it. We know Republicans don't like the poor or the unemployed. It's why they call them names.

Check it out and prove me wrong.

Did you notice who supports the law? Homeless shelters are behind it? Are you going to try and claim that Republicans run homeless shelters because they hate the poor? You really should learn to read and comprehend beofre you start pontificating.

Miami is about 80% Cuban. And I have never met a Cuban Democrat.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Could be, but I wouldn't bet on it. We know Republicans don't like the poor or the unemployed. It's why they call them names.

Check it out and prove me wrong.

Did you notice who supports the law? Homeless shelters are behind it? Are you going to try and claim that Republicans run homeless shelters because they hate the poor? You really should learn to read and comprehend beofre you start pontificating.

Miami is about 80% Cuban. And I have never met a Cuban Democrat.

80% Cuban? Doesn't look like it.

Miami: Population Profile

You want a Cuban Democrat?

Can a Cuban Democrat win in South Florida? - Barack Obama News - Salon.com

There are actually a lot of them.

Miami-Dade Leaning Democratic as Cubans Age | Election 2008 | AlterNet

 

[The T]

Apparently it's tue...in Miami.

I did a giggle search...

Miami fining people that feed the homeless - Google Search

It's just sad that some dumbasses have to tell people that you need 'Formal Training' to help a fellow human?

This is just stupid. I wonder if they'll certify Churches next under threat of fines?

 

[Modbert]

Why are you people so lazy?

Go to the address bar at the top of your browser. Where is says, "Search", paste, "300 dollar fine for feeding the homeless" then hit enter. You can take your pick from which news service you want to read about it.

And shame on you Madeline for hitting thanks. Thanks for being lazy.

Actually dean, when you post a thread, it's generally up to the OP to have the common courtesy to give a link if they aren't directly quoting anything. If they are quoting anything, it's required as I'm sure you know.

 

[Article 15]

Could be, but I wouldn't bet on it. We know Republicans don't like the poor or the unemployed. It's why they call them names.

Check it out and prove me wrong.

Did you notice who supports the law? Homeless shelters are behind it? Are you going to try and claim that Republicans run homeless shelters because they hate the poor? You really should learn to read and comprehend beofre you start pontificating.

Miami is about 80% Cuban. And I have never met a Cuban Democrat.

Hi.

I WAS a moderate Republican

The post-2002 GOP drove me out of the party.

I'm no Democrat now but I voted for Obama and helped kick the GOP out of power in 2006 and rather enjoy blasting the GOP ever since I left.

Until the GOP gets its shit together I will never vote for a single Republican for the House or Senate.

 

[editec]

What a vile law.

The people who voted for it ought to be horsewhipped.

 

[Ravi]

This law is aimed at well intentioned groups that feed the homeless en masse and don't clean up the resulting litter...and don't follow food safety laws.

Individuals are still free to hand over their leftovers to anyone they please. And groups are allowed to feed the homeless as long as they abide by food safety rules and litter rules.

 

[Gatekeeper]

So now the homeless are ranked with pidgeons and sea gulls?

I think we see one of the directions this country is headed, and at the same time, this government sends millions of tons of food and medicine to other countries keeping them healthy wealthy and wise, while our own people are going to be fined for doing the same thing in a very small way in their own towns, helping some unfortunate person that life handed out some bad blows. Many homeless are resentful for reasons many of us have no clue how to understand,many are not, and want to work, many just gave up on humanity. Some however will never fit into the mainstream, and they don't want to, again for various reasons, but someone has to attempt at least to help them, but they also need the desire to make the change to better themselves.

I think this law,and those proposing it, are an abomination, and a further sign of how those with the means, feel about those without. Seems another agenda creeping into the country, besides redistribution of wealth,is redistribution of life itself.

I'll tell you all a story about a homeless person many years back that we helped, and had into our home.I will say this, he turned out to be a concert pianist that hit some hard times for many reasons, and at that time I had bought a new $20K organ, did just about everything but make coffee, and he made this instrument, in the grand piano setting, do things I couldn't believe.

The story of his life is for another time.He did however, with encouragement, go on to be a 'super' in an apartment house and is to this day self sufficient, he never did recapture the magic of his god given abilities.

Anyone proposing laws such as this should not be fed either.

 

[Douger]

I'd gladly kill the Nazi that tried writing me the ticket.

 

[Gremlin-USA]

That is truely wretched.

The obvious question, "Which political party votes against helping veterans again and again?"

None, you dumb ass.

Exactly, it has nothing to do with a political party, it only some something to do with ignorant, ass-wipe Politicians in General


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[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I'd gladly kill the Nazi that tried writing me the ticket.

I wouldn't go that far but I would gladly receive a ticket so I could bring it to court and fight it, hopefully resulting in the law being overturned.

 

[Ravi]

Facts are interesting things.

If you as an individual give a homeless person in Miami something to eat, you will have no problems.

If you as part of a group, sets up an improvised soup kitchen and don't follow food safety rules and/or don't clean up after yourselves you will get fined.

I don't see the problem.

 

[Barb]

Facts are interesting things.

If you as an individual give a homeless person in Miami something to eat, you will have no problems.

If you as part of a group, sets up an improvised soup kitchen and don't follow food safety rules and/or don't clean up after yourselves you will get fined.

I don't see the problem.

Ravi, aren't there already littering laws on the books? Fine people who litter under existing law then. Are there food safety standards inspectors? Have them monitor and (where appropriate) educate these groups about those standards, just like any other food service establishment.
I don't see the problem in that.
Where this law is foul is that it specifically singles out those who work to ease the pain and indignity of hunger and homelessness for "special" attention and heftier fines, all at a time where those problems are increasing.

 

[Ravi]

Facts are interesting things.

If you as an individual give a homeless person in Miami something to eat, you will have no problems.

If you as part of a group, sets up an improvised soup kitchen and don't follow food safety rules and/or don't clean up after yourselves you will get fined.

I don't see the problem.

Ravi, aren't there already littering laws on the books? Fine people who litter under existing law then. Are there food safety standards inspectors? Have them monitor and (where appropriate) educate these groups about those standards, just like any other food service establishment.
I don't see the problem in that.
Where this law is foul is that it specifically singles out those who work to ease the pain and indignity of hunger and homelessness for "special" attention and heftier fines, all at a time where those problems are increasing.

That is basically what they are doing...forcing the dogooders to keep the food cold and bacteria free and clean up after themselves.

There is a perfectly good shelter in the area that feeds the homeless with plenty of food to go around.

 

[rightwinger]

I think this was intended more for groups rather than individuals buying a bum a sandwich

I can see the merit in wanting to control who is setting up soup kitchens and what is being served.

 

[Shadow]

I admit it, I avoid homeless people...at least grown men. They scare me. But it is a tragedy.

I don't really avoid them,but I have had two scare me pretty good.

One person (who I thought was a woman,they were wearing a dress...wig...make up etc) approached me as I was leaving Walgreens once. Apparently they had just gotten off the bus, and wanted money to get something to eat across the street at a McDonalds ( or so they claimed)... they were kind of offended that I would only give them "just" a dollar (which was all the actual cash I had on me right then.) After seeing them up close (since they kept invading my personal space) I realized it was actually a man...freaked me out.

Second time...I gave a homeless man who was standing outside of the post office a few dollars. A few days later I took my kids to eat chinese food. Same man followed us into the restaurant wanting more money from me. The manager had to escort him out.

It is very tragic to see these people on the streets...but sometimes I just don't think it is always safe to interact with them too much or give them a hand out.

 

[Ravi]

Facts are interesting things.

If you as an individual give a homeless person in Miami something to eat, you will have no problems.

If you as part of a group, sets up an improvised soup kitchen and don't follow food safety rules and/or don't clean up after yourselves you will get fined.

I don't see the problem.

Ravi, aren't there already littering laws on the books? Fine people who litter under existing law then. Are there food safety standards inspectors? Have them monitor and (where appropriate) educate these groups about those standards, just like any other food service establishment.
I don't see the problem in that.
Where this law is foul is that it specifically singles out those who work to ease the pain and indignity of hunger and homelessness for "special" attention and heftier fines, all at a time where those problems are increasing.

btw, Barb...the penalty for littering in Florida could be a misdemeanor conviction and $500, so in reality it would be cheaper for these groups to get permitted.

 

[FLGoldilocks]

Fining people for wanting to do a good deed...yeah, that's a brilliant idea. I am being very sarcastic here.

Personally, I don't really give anything to the homeless people around here. I've discovered that the people in my area who stand out there with a sign claiming to be homeless and willing to work for food or whatever, in reality are not homeless. I actually had a neighbor once, whose house was nicer than mine, who would stand out there with a sign that said he was homeless and willing to work for food. I've seen people, freshly showered and wearing brand new clothes on the same street corner day after day, every day freshly showered and wearing new clothes - not just clothes they take good care of because it's all they have, but brand new.

I do, however, donate to various charities in my area that help the homeless, and help those who have homes but need some extra help. And I think that giving a homeless person a sandwich or even an entire meal, if you so choose, is a wonderful thing to do. And fining someone for doing that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of in my life. Instead of sitting around coming up with this ridiculous idea, why don't they spend their time coming up with ways to get those homeless people jobs, places to live and food to eat so we don't have to feed them or slip them some cash when we can? Seems to me that would have been a better use of their time than this brainless idea.