Should Trump promote a policy that allows states to receive funding for 12 week maternity leave? Its good policy to promote families and win votes.

[Lisa558]

Trump completely mismanaged the PSLF program to the point that no one could get their loans forgiven even after complying with the program requirements.

Biden fixed that.

Typical low information MAGA voters don’t know this because they’re trained to hate everyone else.

That is NOT what Biden was trying to push - even though he knew the SCOTUS would block it. He wanted loan forgiveness for every student, regardless of major, or if they even finished college.

Why should the car mechanic who completed his vocational program and paid off his loan for it have to pay off the loan of the idiot who majored in some useless major and dropped out after the first year?

 

[Marener]

That is NOT what Biden was trying to push - even though he knew the SCOTUS would block it. He wanted loan forgiveness for every student, regardless of major, or if they even finished college.

Why should the car mechanic who completed his vocational program and paid off his loan for it have to pay off the loan of the idiot who majored in some useless major and dropped out after the first year?

Of course he was pushing it. You just don’t know what you’re talking about.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/18/politics/student-loan-forgiveness-biden/index.html

 

[eagle1462010]

That is NOT what Biden was trying to push - even though he knew the SCOTUS would block it. He wanted loan forgiveness for every student, regardless of major, or if they even finished college.

Why should the car mechanic who completed his vocational program and paid off his loan for it have to pay off the loan of the idiot who majored in some useless major and dropped out after the first year?

It is what corrupt politicians do. They offer BRIBES FOR VOTES.

Doesnt matter if its done or not. Just it being thrown out there could gain votes.

TRUTH NEED NOT APPLY.


DON'T BE AN ASS

VOTE TRUMP

 

[struth]

I think you're nuts if you imagine the tRumplings going for that.

He already brought it in to the federal workforce. I can see him encouraging it nationally for larger employers and state governments

 

[jwoodie]

PSLF was passed in 2007. It absolutely is an incentive to get an education and work in public service.

So you want even more public employees with useless college degrees?

 

[Lisa558]

So you want even more public employees with useless college degrees?

Leftists want as many people dependent on the federal government as possible.

 

[task0778]

Well, you may call it pandering, I may call it driving his promises to his voters and even the new RFK voters by focusing on family and health. He already passed it for federal workers so this will give options for states and companies but doesn't necessarily force them. It might force large corporations to pay their own share though and limit the costs to taxpayers.

I think it is healthy for a mother to spend the first weeks with their newborn, studies have shown it can have a lasting impact on a childs confidence etc as they age.

I believe marriage and family is a good thing for society. I also believe that under current conditions there is not a whole l9t of benefits for a man to be married. It I quite frankly a huge risk for a an to get married these days. This policy would help a young couple and a small incentive to get married. Not the incentive I would like to see but we had better start doing something to make marriage more sensible.

It may well be a good thing to do but it shouldn't be done at the federal level, along with a number of other policies that should be addressed at the state and local level.

 

[d0gbreath]

So the feds send money to the states. That's right where it would stop.

 

[evenflow1969]

It may well be a good thing to do but it shouldn't be done at the federal level, along with a number of other policies that should be addressed at the state and local level.

Like it or not commerce is managed on a federal level and for good reasons. With out commerce management at a federal level chaos would prevail. This would be a nightmare for business to operate with out consistency from state to state. This is not really the move I would like to see to make marriage make more sense but I understand why it is proposed.. I view it as to little to late. The real change needs to be made in divorce court. Currently it makes financial sense for the female to marry then divorce and collect child support and spousal support and then just move in a boyfriend. Change that and marriage has a better chance. I am for leave for the mother for a significant amount of time as a baby needs this at an early age. Some financial support during this period makes sense but not full salary unless vacation and personal days have accumulated to cover the period. Exactly how much support during this period makes sense I do not know. Seems as though that is an economists purview. Kind of a round about way to say I agree with your stance on the exact issue but for different reasons. I do understand why he is proposing it. Women will not be the only people to benefit the husband will also benefit as will the child. How ever as a former small business owner it would have made life very difficult for me.

 

[Lisa558]

Well, you may call it pandering, I may call it driving his promises to his voters and even the new RFK voters by focusing on family and health. He already passed it for federal workers so this will give options for states and companies but doesn't necessarily force them. It might force large corporations to pay their own share though and limit the costs to taxpayers.

I think it is healthy for a mother to spend the first weeks with their newborn, studies have shown it can have a lasting impact on a childs confidence etc as they age.

Of course it’s healthy! That doesn’t mean other people have to pay for it. Why does EVERYTHING have to come from other people’s hard work and money, rather than just saving for it oneself?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Of course it’s healthy! That doesn’t mean other people have to pay for it. Why does EVERYTHING have to come from other people’s hard work and money, rather than just saving for it oneself?

Being given time off after given birth has nothing to do with people saving money. They could have $5M in the bank and it won't give them time off after a pregnancy.

He could encourage companies to provide time off and those who can't afford it can decide to apply for federal credits.

 

[Lisa558]

Being given time off after given birth has nothing to do with people saving money. They could have $5M in the bank and it won't give them time off after a pregnancy.

He could encourage companies to provide time off and those who can't afford it can decide to apply for federal credits.

Companies need to get their work done. When I worked, I had to get permission for a one-week vacation in advance, and it wasn’t always approved if it was during a busy time.

What if it’s an accounting firm and 10% of the women give birth in February or March and demand time off?

 

[task0778]

Like it or not commerce is managed on a federal level and for good reasons.

Interstate commerce between the states is regulated by the federal gov't, and between the US and foreign nations. So I really do not believe that maternity leave meets that criteria, no matter how wise it may or may not be. That is because a state's maternity leave policy has no direct effect on commerce with another state(s).

 

[evenflow1969]

Interstate commerce between the states is regulated by the federal gov't, and between the US and foreign nations. So I really do not believe that maternity leave meets that criteria, no matter how wise it may or may not be. That is because a state's maternity leave policy has no direct effect on commerce with another state(s).

Lol, your view is to narrow. It does have an effect on commerce. Uneven rules as far as labor goes effects the corporation ability to get and retain talent. Labor is a large cost. This will most strongly show in in larger Corps doing business in multiple states. Employees from time to time must transfer. Uneven labor practices make it difficult to relocate employees. Labor false under commerce and needs to be regulated under federal standards or chaos happens. You can not pick and choose what under the heading of commerce gets regulated or there will be a constant fight for every issue under the heading of commerce. Business needs predictability to operate and survive. That all being said I am against this legislation.

 

[task0778]

Lol, your view is to narrow. It does have an effect on commerce. Uneven rules as far as labor goes effects the corporation ability to get and retain talent. Labor is a large cost. This will most strongly show in in larger Corps doing business in multiple states. Employees from time to time must transfer. Uneven labor practices make it difficult to relocate employees. Labor false under commerce and needs to be regulated under federal standards or chaos happens. You can not pick and choose what under the heading of commerce gets regulated or there will be a constant fight for every issue under the heading of commerce. Business needs predictability to operate and survive. That all being said I am against this legislation.

With respect, it is not the federal gov'ts charge to regulate rules regarding labor laws for any corporation whether it does business across state lines or not, as long as there is no discrimination going on and no one's constitutional rights have been violated. IMHO, there is entirely too much intervention by the federal gov't as it is, and it should be up to the individual states to determine what maternity leave laws should be, if any.