Should Trump Officially Declare War On Iran??

[Uncensored2008]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

You moron Stalinists try so hard, and fail so abysmally...

 

[Gracie]

We are at war? I guess I must have missed the announcement on the news.

Anyway...in answer to your question...no. Let them make the next move. Daddy always said "don't start a fight, but make damn sure you defend yourself".

 

[Uncensored2008]

Iran has been escalating attacks against the US since Oct.

Now those attacks will stop, making democrats haz a sadz, because it is another achievement by Trump.

What do democrats want? Dead Americans! When do they want them? Always!

 

[justoffal]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

No need....Iran has declared war on itself. A little tune up here and there is just what the doctor ordered. The leading cleric's would benefit from such a declaration because the masses already want them out. Taking out a target like the murderous General is a message that any of the top brass can be ended in a moment's notice. Now it's just time to sit back and let time do it's thing. Iran is rotting from the inside out we must do nothing to interrupt that process including declare war upon them.

Jo

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Iran has been escalating attacks against the US since Oct.

Now those attacks will stop, making democrats haz a sadz, because it is another achievement by Trump.

What do democrats want? Dead Americans! When do they want them? Always!

Why would those attacks stop??

We been in Iraq for over 18 years.....and what did that stop??

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

You moron Stalinists try so hard, and fail so abysmally...

Why are we still in Iraq??

Not one of you dic suckers have answered that question yet....

After 18 years...how is it that Iran has MORE INFLUENCE in Iraq than 18 years ago??

 

[justoffal]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

Good grief...You progressives let your fantasy world really get away from you....We are NOT in a war, declared, or otherwise, unless you want to just post lies.

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

Ooooh.....another Article of Impeachment! Go for it dude!
Call your transexual congress-prick today and insist on it!

Jo

 

[justoffal]

Iran has been escalating attacks against the US since Oct.

Now those attacks will stop, making democrats haz a sadz, because it is another achievement by Trump.

What do democrats want? Dead Americans! When do they want them? Always!

Why would those attacks stop??

We been in Iraq for over 18 years.....and what did that stop??

It stopped one High ranking General from breathing.

Jo

 

[Uncensored2008]

Iran has been escalating attacks against the US since Oct.

Now those attacks will stop, making democrats haz a sadz, because it is another achievement by Trump.

What do democrats want? Dead Americans! When do they want them? Always!

Why would those attacks stop??

We been in Iraq for over 18 years.....and what did that stop??

Lack of coordination by their major strategic planner. See, Obama's dear and close friend recently came to room temperature.

Democrats across the nation are mourning.

 

[justoffal]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

Good grief...You progressives let your fantasy world really get away from you....We are NOT in a war, declared, or otherwise, unless you want to just post lies.

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

Yep....took away a major campaign argument that he is soft on the middle east... They have been screaming it since day one.

Jo

 

[Uncensored2008]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

You moron Stalinists try so hard, and fail so abysmally...

Why are we still in Iraq??

Not one of you dic suckers have answered that question yet....

After 18 years...how is it that Iran has MORE INFLUENCE in Iraq than 18 years ago??

Dunno, we should have leveled Baghdad and left them to clean up the mess. But Bush and Obama wanted to play nation building. Couple of idiots, those two, The latter one a flat out traitor, loyal to Iran.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Iran has been escalating attacks against the US since Oct.

Now those attacks will stop, making democrats haz a sadz, because it is another achievement by Trump.

What do democrats want? Dead Americans! When do they want them? Always!

Why would those attacks stop??

We been in Iraq for over 18 years.....and what did that stop??

It stopped one High ranking General from breathing.

Jo

Biff is already in pain over this, now you're just being cruel by rubbing it in....

 

[justoffal]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

You moron Stalinists try so hard, and fail so abysmally...

Why are we still in Iraq??

Not one of you dic suckers have answered that question yet....

After 18 years...how is it that Iran has MORE INFLUENCE in Iraq than 18 years ago??

I think there's a pretty good argument for having left Hussein in power. But there were also some pretty good arguments for taking him out. Any and all actions have consequences that are unforseeable. The real enemy does not wear a soldier's uniform.
The real enemy wears false piety of a religion that calls itself peaceful. When it comes to the Battle for hearts and minds religion is the ultimate trump card and therein lies your answer.

Jo

 

[gipper]

Are you saying he is wrong? How?

You can’t fix stupid.

Uncle loves the stupid.

That must be why you're here...

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

That’s right. I’m here to educate the ignorant. Are you learning anything?

Even Tucker is trying to educate the ignorant.

Tucker Carlson Comes Out Against Trump’s Iran Strike

Tucker is a very smart articulate man, who has been against war or confrontation with any country for the longest time. On the Iran issue unfortunately he is wrong and it's possible it's due to his ignorance in the matter, or he could just be inflexible on these kinds of issues, as is Rand Paul.

Yes, the Empire is always right. Right?

Achtung!!!!

 

[justoffal]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

You moron Stalinists try so hard, and fail so abysmally...

Why are we still in Iraq??

Not one of you dic suckers have answered that question yet....

After 18 years...how is it that Iran has MORE INFLUENCE in Iraq than 18 years ago??

What? Are you completely simple? The one-word answer is oil of course.
Ask any Democrat or any Republican.

Jo

 

[White 6]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

You moron Stalinists try so hard, and fail so abysmally...

Why are we still in Iraq??

Not one of you dic suckers have answered that question yet....

After 18 years...how is it that Iran has MORE INFLUENCE in Iraq than 18 years ago??

Before that Saddam kept them at bay. He hated them more than the right wing does.

 

[theHawk]

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

If Iran does something really stupid, and *if* President Trump decides to go to war against them, he isn’t going to make the same stupid mistakes Bush did, like using ground troops to police Muslim cities. Instead he’ll destroy their navy, and bomb the shit out of them to humiliate them.

 

[okfine]

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

If Iran does something really stupid, and *if* President Trump decides to go to war against them, he isn’t going to make the same stupid mistakes Bush did, like using ground troops to police Muslim cities. Instead he’ll destroy their navy, and bomb the shit out of them to humiliate them.

And what is Trump going to accomplish, world peace? STFU

 

[theHawk]

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

If Iran does something really stupid, and *if* President Trump decides to go to war against them, he isn’t going to make the same stupid mistakes Bush did, like using ground troops to police Muslim cities. Instead he’ll destroy their navy, and bomb the shit out of them to humiliate them.

And what is Trump going to accomplish, world peace? STFU

We won’t have world peace until all of Islam is contained to the Middle East and they kill each other off.

 

[Papageorgio]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

Unless we have an objective and an exit plan, and really commit to the horrors of war, we need not start another war. Since LBJ we quit fighting wars to win at all costs, this will just add. Letting human shields and hiding in Mosques alter our attacks doesn’t work. We either go in and destroy with a goal or we are wasting American lives.