Should Trump focus on red states with high crime rates before using the military on blue states? (Poll)

Do you support Trump "invading" uncooperative democrat states like Illinois to reduce crime?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 39.3%
  • No

    Votes: 17 60.7%

  • Total voters
    28
I guess the people in those cities don't get a vote? Reagan once said, "The scariest words are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you".
The people in those cities welcome less street violence, even the mayor of DC complimented the surge.
Even Trump paid her a compliment.
 
The people in those cities welcome less street violence, even the mayor of DC complimented the surge.
Even Trump paid her a compliment.
Polls in DC show the people who live there are not in favor of the NG and other agencies patrolling their city. Trump is a bully so the DC mayor gave him her lunch money so he wouldn't withhold Federal funds for DC.
 
You have to pursue crime where it occurs, not focus on a political outcome and use enforcement as a lever for other things. That way of business is why we are where we are at, official anarchy. Policing is just the tip of the spear in the battle against crime, and the thugs no longer fear that thanks to the politicians. They also don't fear any sort of punishment, thanks again system. What kind of streets do you want? Does returning these thugs loose and prosecuting you for attempting to defend yourself sound like a good plan?
 
The people in those cities welcome less street violence, even the mayor of DC complimented the surge.
Even Trump paid her a compliment.
The democraps are trying to shift the narrative away from blue cities to red states. They know that this is a political move and so does Trump. This is about destroying the democraps and their credibility, while also fighting violent crime in the blue cities. Trump is killing two bluebirds with one stone. Also, we must note that the democraps are hellbent on twisting everything to be a trap for Trump, so it is easy to avoid them by doing the opposite of what the democraps say. Trump has mastered the art of defeating the democraps and they are helpless to stop him.
 
"States"? What do states have to do with anything? Are you under the impression that the entirety of Illinois has the same levels of crime as the city of Chicago? What the **** are you talking about states for? States arent the issue. The issue is crime ridden cities.

Think before you type.
Jim is an idiot...
He forgot to use his chatbot today...spelling errors!
 
I don't know. I think Trump is trying to shove it in their faces and it's working pretty damned good. Chicago just had yet another horrible weekend and yet they passed laws forbidding the police from working with the National Guard. 81% of Americans say crime is a major problem and Trump's got 'em all defending the criminals. Great sound bites for the upcoming midterms.
I can remember when the repubs who are now magas had a fit when Obama had military drills in cities and screaming Police state.

I can remember when Noem screamed when Biden wanted to send the National Guard to patrol the border, yep police state.

Today the same people love their police state and you're one of them.
 

How conservatives learned to love the police state. Not a real republican does.​


Led by Donald Trump, Republican leaders—including members of Congress and several governors—have in recent weeks endorsed armed occupations of American cities.

The most prominent display of this attitude can be seen in Washington, D.C., where Trump has deployed federal law enforcement along with the National Guard to combat a nonexistent crime wave. For a few weeks now Americans have watched as federal agents have been tasked with handling moped accidents, drunk men throwing sandwiches, and trash cleanup duty.
The action in Washington follows the deployment of federal assets in Los Angeles, which is led by Mayor Karen Bass, a Black woman. Other cities have been threatened with occupation by Trump including Chicago, Baltimore, and most recently New Orleans. All of the cities vote Democratic, have large minority populations, and are led by Black mayors.

But just a few years ago conservatives and Republicans were busy accusing Democrats of wanting a “police state.”

The right spent nearly a decade accusing former President Bill Clinton of plotting to allow United Nations-backed agents of the “New World Order” to do things like construct FEMA camps and conduct armed takeovers of American cities.

By the time former President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the right whipped itself into a frenzy over the “Jade Helm” conspiracy. Under Jade Helm, Obama was purportedly amassing military forces to take over red state cities and towns. None of it was true, as Jade Helm was an innocuous military exercise.

The fearmongering over the impending police state did not stop when former President Joe Biden took office in 2021. In 2024 while serving as governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem said there would be “war on our hands” if Biden used the National Guard to patrol the U.S.-Mexico border.

Now that Noem is serving as Trump’s Homeland Security secretary, she backs using the Guard to invade states like California.

Cartoon by Clay Bennett


A group of 28 congressional Republicans released a letter in 2024 pushing Biden not to federalize the Texas National Guard after Gov. Greg Abbott began using the guard to install razor wire on the southern border. Republican attorneys general also voiced protest as well.

But these same people are perfectly fine with Trump deploying the National Guard to enforce his imperialist presidential agenda.

Conservative groups like the NRA, which have argued that Americans have to be armed to the teeth to counter federal power, have been quiet even as federal troops have marched on Washington.

The truth is that the right never really cared about a federal police state. The movement is more than happy if cities with large Black populations led by Black leaders are forced to buckle to Trump’s whims, backed up by armed feds.

Figures like conspiracy theorist Alex Jones made millions selling ineffective medication, based on his promotion of fears about a “police state.” Now Jones is busy parting with contributors to his own network who reportedly demonstrate insufficient fealty to Trump.

The entire elaborate “police state” warning was another fraud from the right. They aren’t opposed to a police state—they revel in cheering it on.

Maga loves the police state they have created. Just think in years from now "what goes around will come around" hope I'm still living to observe it all.
 

How conservatives learned to love the police state. Not a real republican does.​

Led by Donald Trump, Republican leaders—including members of Congress and several governors—have in recent weeks endorsed armed occupations of American cities.

The most prominent display of this attitude can be seen in Washington, D.C., where Trump has deployed federal law enforcement along with the National Guard to combat a nonexistent crime wave. For a few weeks now Americans have watched as federal agents have been tasked with handling moped accidents, drunk men throwing sandwiches, and trash cleanup duty.
The action in Washington follows the deployment of federal assets in Los Angeles, which is led by Mayor Karen Bass, a Black woman. Other cities have been threatened with occupation by Trump including Chicago, Baltimore, and most recently New Orleans. All of the cities vote Democratic, have large minority populations, and are led by Black mayors.

But just a few years ago conservatives and Republicans were busy accusing Democrats of wanting a “police state.”

The right spent nearly a decade accusing former President Bill Clinton of plotting to allow United Nations-backed agents of the “New World Order” to do things like construct FEMA camps and conduct armed takeovers of American cities.

By the time former President Barack Obama took office in 2009, the right whipped itself into a frenzy over the “Jade Helm” conspiracy. Under Jade Helm, Obama was purportedly amassing military forces to take over red state cities and towns. None of it was true, as Jade Helm was an innocuous military exercise.

The fearmongering over the impending police state did not stop when former President Joe Biden took office in 2021. In 2024 while serving as governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem said there would be “war on our hands” if Biden used the National Guard to patrol the U.S.-Mexico border.

Now that Noem is serving as Trump’s Homeland Security secretary, she backs using the Guard to invade states like California.

A group of 28 congressional Republicans released a letter in 2024 pushing Biden not to federalize the Texas National Guard after Gov. Greg Abbott began using the guard to install razor wire on the southern border. Republican attorneys general also voiced protest as well.

But these same people are perfectly fine with Trump deploying the National Guard to enforce his imperialist presidential agenda.

Conservative groups like the NRA, which have argued that Americans have to be armed to the teeth to counter federal power, have been quiet even as federal troops have marched on Washington.

The truth is that the right never really cared about a federal police state. The movement is more than happy if cities with large Black populations led by Black leaders are forced to buckle to Trump’s whims, backed up by armed feds.

Figures like conspiracy theorist Alex Jones made millions selling ineffective medication, based on his promotion of fears about a “police state.” Now Jones is busy parting with contributors to his own network who reportedly demonstrate insufficient fealty to Trump.

The entire elaborate “police state” warning was another fraud from the right. They aren’t opposed to a police state—they revel in cheering it on.

Maga loves the police state they have created. Just think in years from now "what goes around will come around" hope I'm still living to observe it all.
Trump is not forming an "armed Gestapo willing to kill" like Biden did.

Biden wanted 80,000 new IRS agents "willing to use deadly force". That's how they advertised it.


Stop whining about crime dropping in the urban shitholes.
 
Trump is not forming an "armed Gestapo willing to kill" like Biden did.

Biden wanted 80,000 new IRS agents "willing to use deadly force". That's how they advertised it.


Stop whining about crime dropping in the urban shitholes.
Oh yea and you're all for a police state. Just admit it. Prove that Biden really wanted to hire 80,000 IRS agents to use deadly force? Only about 2000 carry firearms and some of the other's were replacing retiring agents. You're wrong on that one.
 
Oh yea and you're all for a police state. Just admit it. Prove that Biden really wanted to hire 80,000 IRS agents to use deadly force? Only about 2000 carry firearms and some of the other's were replacing retiring agents. You're wrong on that one.
I'm for Law & Order. Criminals belong in prison.
Biden wanted to hire 80,000 IRS agents "willing to use deadly force", his Gestapo. Can't you read?

Just imagine if Trump wanted to hire 80,000 new "agents willing to use deadly force". See any difference?
 
I'm for Law & Order. Criminals belong in prison.
Biden wanted to hire 80,000 IRS agents "willing to use deadly force", his Gestapo. Can't you read?

Just imagine if Trump wanted to hire 80,000 new "agents willing to use deadly force". See any difference?
Police state forget get the bs about the IRS agents never happened but the Police state has.
 
Democrat governors oppose federalizing the NG in their states.
Why fight democrat governors when Republican governors are happy to help, especially when crime rates are high all over?
1: Reduce Crime
2: Save lives
3: Embarrass Democrats
All legitimate goals


 
Police state forget the bs about the IRS agents, never happened, but the Police state has.
Where is the "police state"? I'm not seeing it.

I'm seeing the opposite. I'm seeing criminals being coddled, cashless bail, excusing repeat offenders, excusing juvenile crime, and the citizens get brutalized and murdered. Seen the Charlotte murder video yet?
 
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