Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?

[Wry Catcher]

Tell you what stop paying all your taxes and tell us what happens.

Why would I do that? I want the government to provide provide services consistent with the vision statement, aka, the Preamble to the COTUS.

I want local police and fire, special districts to make sure water and air are clean, vector control and sewage removal, flood controls and the dozens of other things done by local and state workers.

You don't and I find that insane.

Who said I didn't? You said that taxes aren't force, and nothing you said makes it otherwise. If you don't pay taxes you will find out that they are forced.

It astounding just how weak the leftist mind can be. The fact that you disagree with one means you don't want the gov't to provide necessary services and tax us to fund them. Pathetic.

You needed too many words to simply post an ad hominem, please try to be concise if not substantive.

Keep in mind taxes pay for more than sending our troops all over the world to protect the oil cartel, and other sources of material (an now labor) for corporate America.

Tax cuts need to targeted, and benefit those who need tax relief; the very wealthy have lawyers and lobbyists looking out for them, they don't need hoi polloi conservatives in their corner.

It's all good, Comrade W, and we do tax the big earners enough that the top 25% carry 86% of the total federal personal income tax load while the bottom 49% of American earners contribute NOTHING to help pay for our interstate highways, our federal courts, our federal gov't and yes, our military which protects America, Americans and our interests (evidently much to your chagrin).

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

ROFLMNAO!~

How Adorable is it when the Red's run to deny that they exist?

 

[Wry Catcher]

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

ROFLMNAO!~

How Adorable is it when the Red's run to deny that they exist?

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

ROFLMNAO!~

How Adorable is it when the Red's run to deny that they exist?

Sorry, you may find me adorable, I find that creepy and I find you to be repulsive and retarded.

I'm curious though, have you ever taken a University Course on political philosophy? If so, did you pass it? Or are you simply a blatherskite?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

ROFLMNAO!~

How Adorable is it when the Red's run to deny that they exist?

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

ROFLMNAO!~

How Adorable is it when the Red's run to deny that they exist?

Sorry, you may find me adorable, I find that creepy and I find you to be repulsive and retarded.

I'm curious though, have you ever taken a University Course on political philosophy? If so, did you pass it? Or are you simply a blatherskite?

OH! Thank you.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Reader, do you see how easy this is?

Again, the key to defeating Leftist in debate, rests upon two key fundamental elements:

1- Find a Leftist.

2- Get them to speak.

 

[danielpalos]

... Only if they are really really "worth it".

 

[SAYIT]

Why would I do that? I want the government to provide provide services consistent with the vision statement, aka, the Preamble to the COTUS.

I want local police and fire, special districts to make sure water and air are clean, vector control and sewage removal, flood controls and the dozens of other things done by local and state workers.

You don't and I find that insane.

Who said I didn't? You said that taxes aren't force, and nothing you said makes it otherwise. If you don't pay taxes you will find out that they are forced.

It astounding just how weak the leftist mind can be. The fact that you disagree with one means you don't want the gov't to provide necessary services and tax us to fund them. Pathetic.

You needed too many words to simply post an ad hominem, please try to be concise if not substantive.

Keep in mind taxes pay for more than sending our troops all over the world to protect the oil cartel, and other sources of material (an now labor) for corporate America.

Tax cuts need to targeted, and benefit those who need tax relief; the very wealthy have lawyers and lobbyists looking out for them, they don't need hoi polloi conservatives in their corner.

It's all good, Comrade W, and we do tax the big earners enough that the top 25% carry 86% of the total federal personal income tax load while the bottom 49% of American earners contribute NOTHING to help pay for our interstate highways, our federal courts, our federal gov't and yes, our military which protects America, Americans and our interests (evidently much to your chagrin).

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

Uh huh ... and despite your lame ad hominem the fact remains that the same socialism that brought down the USSR and enslaved generations of Cubans as well as Eastern Europeans is attempting to creep its way into America. Just in case you "Worker's Paradise" types are wondering, informed, freedom-loving people will not allow you to steal from our kids the same opportunity to succeed (or fail) on their merits that their parents and grandparents enjoyed.
In a word: **** YOU.

 

[danielpalos]

Who said I didn't? You said that taxes aren't force, and nothing you said makes it otherwise. If you don't pay taxes you will find out that they are forced.

It astounding just how weak the leftist mind can be. The fact that you disagree with one means you don't want the gov't to provide necessary services and tax us to fund them. Pathetic.

You needed too many words to simply post an ad hominem, please try to be concise if not substantive.

Keep in mind taxes pay for more than sending our troops all over the world to protect the oil cartel, and other sources of material (an now labor) for corporate America.

Tax cuts need to targeted, and benefit those who need tax relief; the very wealthy have lawyers and lobbyists looking out for them, they don't need hoi polloi conservatives in their corner.

It's all good, Comrade W, and we do tax the big earners enough that the top 25% carry 86% of the total federal personal income tax load while the bottom 49% of American earners contribute NOTHING to help pay for our interstate highways, our federal courts, our federal gov't and yes, our military which protects America, Americans and our interests (evidently much to your chagrin).

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

Uh huh ... and despite your lame ad hominem the fact remains that the same socialism that brought down the USSR and enslaved generations of Cubans as well as Eastern Europeans is attempting to creep its way into America. Just in case you "Worker's Paradise" types are wondering, informed, freedom-loving people will not allow you to steal from our kids the same opportunity to succeed (or fail) on their merits that their parents and grandparents enjoyed.
In a word: **** YOU.

dude, Capitalism died in 1929; you are soaking in socialism.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

ROFLMNAO!~

How Adorable is it when the Red's run to deny that they exist?

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

ROFLMNAO!~

How Adorable is it when the Red's run to deny that they exist?

Sorry, you may find me adorable, I find that creepy and I find you to be repulsive and retarded.

I'm curious though, have you ever taken a University Course on political philosophy? If so, did you pass it? Or are you simply a blatherskite?

OH! Thank you.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Reader, do you see how easy this is?

Again, the key to defeating Leftist in debate, rests upon two key fundamental elements:

1- Find a Leftist.

2- Get them to speak.

Q. Are you simply a blatherskite
A. A simple blathersksite

 

[Wry Catcher]

Who said I didn't? You said that taxes aren't force, and nothing you said makes it otherwise. If you don't pay taxes you will find out that they are forced.

It astounding just how weak the leftist mind can be. The fact that you disagree with one means you don't want the gov't to provide necessary services and tax us to fund them. Pathetic.

You needed too many words to simply post an ad hominem, please try to be concise if not substantive.

Keep in mind taxes pay for more than sending our troops all over the world to protect the oil cartel, and other sources of material (an now labor) for corporate America.

Tax cuts need to targeted, and benefit those who need tax relief; the very wealthy have lawyers and lobbyists looking out for them, they don't need hoi polloi conservatives in their corner.

It's all good, Comrade W, and we do tax the big earners enough that the top 25% carry 86% of the total federal personal income tax load while the bottom 49% of American earners contribute NOTHING to help pay for our interstate highways, our federal courts, our federal gov't and yes, our military which protects America, Americans and our interests (evidently much to your chagrin).

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

Uh huh ... and despite your lame ad hominem the fact remains that the same socialism that brought down the USSR and enslaved generations of Cubans as well as Eastern Europeans is attempting to creep its way into America. Just in case you "Worker's Paradise" types are wondering, informed, freedom-loving people will not allow you to steal from our kids the same opportunity to succeed (or fail) on their merits that their parents and grandparents enjoyed.
In a word: **** YOU.

Wow, a perfidious rant wrapped in straw and framed by historical ignorance.

 

[Papageorgio]

Why would I do that? I want the government to provide provide services consistent with the vision statement, aka, the Preamble to the COTUS.

I want local police and fire, special districts to make sure water and air are clean, vector control and sewage removal, flood controls and the dozens of other things done by local and state workers.

You don't and I find that insane.

Who said I didn't? You said that taxes aren't force, and nothing you said makes it otherwise. If you don't pay taxes you will find out that they are forced.

It astounding just how weak the leftist mind can be. The fact that you disagree with one means you don't want the gov't to provide necessary services and tax us to fund them. Pathetic.

You needed too many words to simply post an ad hominem, please try to be concise if not substantive.

Keep in mind taxes pay for more than sending our troops all over the world to protect the oil cartel, and other sources of material (an now labor) for corporate America.

Tax cuts need to targeted, and benefit those who need tax relief; the very wealthy have lawyers and lobbyists looking out for them, they don't need hoi polloi conservatives in their corner.

It's all good, Comrade W, and we do tax the big earners enough that the top 25% carry 86% of the total federal personal income tax load while the bottom 49% of American earners contribute NOTHING to help pay for our interstate highways, our federal courts, our federal gov't and yes, our military which protects America, Americans and our interests (evidently much to your chagrin).

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

So can you prove taxes aren't forced?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Who said I didn't? You said that taxes aren't force, and nothing you said makes it otherwise. If you don't pay taxes you will find out that they are forced.

It astounding just how weak the leftist mind can be. The fact that you disagree with one means you don't want the gov't to provide necessary services and tax us to fund them. Pathetic.

You needed too many words to simply post an ad hominem, please try to be concise if not substantive.

Keep in mind taxes pay for more than sending our troops all over the world to protect the oil cartel, and other sources of material (an now labor) for corporate America.

Tax cuts need to targeted, and benefit those who need tax relief; the very wealthy have lawyers and lobbyists looking out for them, they don't need hoi polloi conservatives in their corner.

It's all good, Comrade W, and we do tax the big earners enough that the top 25% carry 86% of the total federal personal income tax load while the bottom 49% of American earners contribute NOTHING to help pay for our interstate highways, our federal courts, our federal gov't and yes, our military which protects America, Americans and our interests (evidently much to your chagrin).

You can take your comrade and shove it up your ass, if your heads not to far in the way. This bullshit RED SCARE crap has gotten old, though it seems the crazy right wing has no better rebuttal. Sad, most seem to have never matriculated beyond the 8th grade level and need to echo the same meme ad nausea.

So can you prove taxes aren't forced?

Yes, taxes unpaid will result in a consequence. Yet the essence of this question suggests you have no need for government, or at least a government capable of building roads and hundreds of other activities which make life easier.

So the question really has no merit; there is no developed country which does not impose taxes on its citizens. Voluntary donations are't feasible, so paying taxes must be made mandatory.

 

[auditor0007]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

They should lower the top income tax rate to 33%, and raise the capital gains rate to 33% for any gains earned from investments held less than five years. The rate for investment gains over five years should be 25%. The capitals gains rate should be tied to the income tax rate, so lower income earners would still pay less regardless of whether the income was from wages or investments.

 

[Papageorgio]

You said taxes were not forced, it was incumbent upon you to prove the statement since you were challenged.

The question wasn't does everyone tax. The question is are they forced.

The government enforces the the law of paying taxes. By definition they cause to force.

So, we are forced to pay taxes. Your claim is false.

 

[sealybobo]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

To the rich its just a game. They want to pay less even if they pay more lobbying to accomplish more.

 

[Papageorgio]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

To the rich its just a game. They want to pay less even if they pay more lobbying to accomplish more.

That is because the rich Congressman writes the bill for,the rich.

Congress is the only ones that can change the lobbying rules. They can change the tax laws and they can change the way Wall St. Interacts with them. They won't do a damn thing. The reason, they need money to get re-elected. Who is going to vote against their best interest.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You said taxes were not forced, it was incumbent upon you to prove the statement since you were challenged.

The question wasn't does everyone tax. The question is are they forced.

The government enforces the the law of paying taxes. By definition they cause to force.

So, we are forced to pay taxes. Your claim is false.

That matters how? Oh, I know, "it's your money". It remains a childish and inconsequential question.

In fact I believe scofflaws who hide their income ought to be executed, hung by their thumbs in public and allowed to rot (not really, but that would be the threat of force implied by your obsession).

 

[Politico]

Mitt Romey paid 1.94 million in taxes in 2011….he paid more than his fair share…….if you want high tax rates like they had after WW2 the way you make them work is to destroy the industrial base of the rest of the world, like they did in WW2…..and then, when Kennedy lowered the tax rate, the government brought in more money, not less, and dittos Reagan……

High tax rates are immoral……and counter productive.

LOL.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You said taxes were not forced, it was incumbent upon you to prove the statement since you were challenged.

The question wasn't does everyone tax. The question is are they forced.

The government enforces the the law of paying taxes. By definition they cause to force.

So, we are forced to pay taxes. Your claim is false.

That matters how? Oh, I know, "it's your money". It remains a childish and inconsequential question.

In fact I believe scofflaws who hide their income ought to be executed, hung by their thumbs in public and allowed to rot (not really, but that would be the threat of force implied by your obsession).

So let me understand this from a liberal prospective:

If you feel you've given enough of your property that you worked for and made responsible decisions in order to have, and you try to hide some of your money, you should be executed, but if you are a welfare queen who games the system at every corner, doesn't work, and keeps irresponsibly having more children for the public to support, those are the people we should respect?

Did you ever consider that if every able bodied person who could work did, that maybe we wouldn't need all this tax money in the first place?

 

[frigidweirdo]

You said taxes were not forced, it was incumbent upon you to prove the statement since you were challenged.

The question wasn't does everyone tax. The question is are they forced.

The government enforces the the law of paying taxes. By definition they cause to force.

So, we are forced to pay taxes. Your claim is false.

That matters how? Oh, I know, "it's your money". It remains a childish and inconsequential question.

In fact I believe scofflaws who hide their income ought to be executed, hung by their thumbs in public and allowed to rot (not really, but that would be the threat of force implied by your obsession).

So let me understand this from a liberal prospective:

If you feel you've given enough of your property that you worked for and made responsible decisions in order to have, and you try to hide some of your money, you should be executed, but if you are a welfare queen who games the system at every corner, doesn't work, and keeps irresponsibly having more children for the public to support, those are the people we should respect?

Did you ever consider that if every able bodied person who could work did, that maybe we wouldn't need all this tax money in the first place?

If every able bodied person worked then the rich would have to pay higher salaries to those workers, employees would have more choice and cause more problems.
The rich want the poor to be poor and to feel they don't have choices. So unemployment is necessary and they're prefer to pay taxes to keep them there than to have everyone working. However if they can get the unemployed and not pay the tax for them, even better.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I think the rich should ABSOLUTELY pay more because the majority of them are selfish and don't care about anybody but themselves! Trust me, if you are a millionaire, it is NOT going to hurt you if you just pay a little more in taxes. I believe that if you are a good and righteous person, you would want to help the poor or people that are less fortunate. It's as simple as that! People need to stop being so selfish.

They should lower the top income tax rate to 33%, and raise the capital gains rate to 33% for any gains earned from investments held less than five years. The rate for investment gains over five years should be 25%. The capitals gains rate should be tied to the income tax rate, so lower income earners would still pay less regardless of whether the income was from wages or investments.

Then all the investors would pull their money out of the market and ship it overseas or to some other tax reduced investment. The capital gains tax is designed to bring in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourage investment. Increase those taxes to 33% and watch the market crash and burn.