Should the GOP mention that hillary is married to the Waco mass murderer?

[Faun]

Yes, by all means try to link Hillary to pedaphile David Koresh and the Waco whacko cult.

Do you know what a pedophile is? If so, have you seen any convincing evidence that David Koresh was a pedophile?

And by convincing evidence I don't mean statements deriving from federal law enforcement sources.

google: "Kiri Jewell"

 

[MikeK]

Our 'Conservatives' are seeing a coming wave in the 2016 Presidential election, and trying pre-emptive strikes. Next they will be honoring Timothy McViegh for his attempt at seeking truth and justice in Oklahoma City.

Actually no, you lie. Koresh was what he was and those ADULTS that followed him to his death got what they deserved, but the children didn't have to die and were innocent. 26 American children killed for political expedience and the left could care less.

McViegh the same thing he murdered innocent children he is scum and should have gotten what he got, just like anyone who causes the death of innocent children.

No one is going to honor McViegh or Koresh but it is the liberal left that honors Clinton and Reno who did cause the death of 26 children. Hypocrites all of you.

The magnitude of the Waco Massacre is such that focusing blame on any one political entity is counterproductive because it shifts attention from the real evil, which is the submissive ignorance of the general public.

None of the Davidians deserved what they got because none of them believed the U.S. Government would do something like that, nor would the American People allow it to happen.

As for McVeigh, what he did was unforgivable. But according to his manifesto, his action occurred in protest of the federal government's action and the People's failure to prevent it.

 

[MikeK]

Yes, by all means try to link Hillary to pedaphile David Koresh and the Waco whacko cult.

Do you know what a pedophile is? If so, have you seen any convincing evidence that David Koresh was a pedophile?

And by convincing evidence I don't mean statements deriving from federal law enforcement sources.

google: "Kiri Jewell"

What about Kiri Jewell?

Even if what Kiri Jewell had to say about Koresh is true she was not pre-pubescent, therefore the issue of pedophilia is null and void. Because pedophilia refers to sexual contact with pre-pubescent children -- not with sexually mature minors.

Even if Koresh did engage in sexual relations with her, which the local sheriff and the Texas Department of Social Services' investigation says didn't happen, such actions are not unusual in religious cults and they certainly do not call for a commando raid by a federal agency.

If you will Google the Tom Snyder tv interview of Kiri Jewell you will see her read her accusation of David Koresh from a written sheet of paper! A script! So if you believe it it's because you wish to.

 

[Faun]

Do you know what a pedophile is? If so, have you seen any convincing evidence that David Koresh was a pedophile?

And by convincing evidence I don't mean statements deriving from federal law enforcement sources.

google: "Kiri Jewell"

What about Kiri Jewell?

Even if what Kiri Jewell had to say about Koresh is true she was not pre-pubescent, therefore the issue of pedophilia is null and void. Because pedophilia refers to sexual contact with pre-pubescent children -- not with sexually mature minors.

Even if Koresh did engage in sexual relations with her, which the local sheriff and the Texas Department of Social Services' investigation says didn't happen, such actions are not unusual in religious cults and they certainly do not call for a commando raid by a federal agency.

If you will Google the Tom Snyder tv interview of Kiri Jewell you will see her read her accusation of David Koresh from a written sheet of paper! A script! So if you believe it it's because you wish to.

Your herculean efforts to defend a child rapist are noted, however, her testimony is evidence which did not come from the FBI. Neither did that of Michelle Jones or any one of the surviving Branch Davidians making that claim.

Aside from that evidence, you don't get to make up your own definitions of words.

pedophilia

sexual feelings or activities that involve children

sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object​

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

 

[MikeK]

Guns Recovered at Branch Davidian Compound

Guide Extra --The following is from a "Memorandum to the Press" issued by Chris Peacock, Treasury Department Director of Public Affairs on July 13, 1995 showing a list of all firearms, explosives, and related material seized by Federal law enforcement officers following the April 19, 1993 assault on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas.

What Mr. Peacock fails to mention is the Branch Davidians were in the firearms business and several of them held valid FFLs (Federal Firearms Dealer licenses) which were issued to them by the BATF. So those long lists you've presented constitute what actually is a relatively small inventory -- not a weapons "stockpile" as the feds were fond of calling it.

A review of the list reveals numerous efforts to implicitly criminalize what in fact are perfectly legal items such as "grenade parts." Which "parts?" Armed (loaded) and primed grenades are illegal. Grenade parts are not. It is legal to own de-militarized (not loaded and primed) hand grenades and most parts, which the Davidians did sell.

The list mentions M-16 "type" weapons -- which probably refers to AR-15s, which look like M-16s but are not fully automatic and are therefore legal.

Same with the AK-47 "type" weapons.

"Live practice grenades." There is no such thing. A grenade is either live or it is an inert practice grenade, which is not live and is legal to own.

The list mentions several illegal fully automatic firearms, but the Davidian survivors insist there were no fully automatic weapons in their inventory. So who is lying depends on whether or not you believe federal agents would stoop to planting false evidence to justify their actions. But it should be noted there was no mention of automatic fire coming from the compound during the initial BATF raid.

The bottom line is the list is that of a perfectly legal firearms inventory -- except for the few illegal items which we must take Peacock's word were not planted.

(The lists may be reviewed on Page One of this thread.)

 

[MikeK]

After four dead ATF agents and a 51-day standoff, the feds should have leveled the compound.

They did. Including 21 children -- including little tots not yet two years old. Is that what you wanted?

An investigation determined the fire was started by the Waco whackos.

Whose investigation?

The feds pumped in gallons of military grade tear gas which is prohibited for indoor use. They did that knowing there were little kids in the building -- and that gas is highly flammable if used indoors.

They followed the introduction of that gas by tossing in additional gas grenades which burn off at over 2,000 degrees.

Shortly after tossing those grenades in the fire started.

I know you will continue to insist the Davidians started the fire to burn up their kids along with themselves. And I'm not wasting my time here trying to get you to alter your position because I know you won't. I believe you are holding this position because of some strange sense of revenge for Wounded Knee. My effort is in the interest of those who might otherwise believe what you and other pro-feds are telling them.

 

[MikeK]

google: "Kiri Jewell"

What about Kiri Jewell?

Even if what Kiri Jewell had to say about Koresh is true she was not pre-pubescent, therefore the issue of pedophilia is null and void. Because pedophilia refers to sexual contact with pre-pubescent children -- not with sexually mature minors.

Even if Koresh did engage in sexual relations with her, which the local sheriff and the Texas Department of Social Services' investigation says didn't happen, such actions are not unusual in religious cults and they certainly do not call for a commando raid by a federal agency.

If you will Google the Tom Snyder tv interview of Kiri Jewell you will see her read her accusation of David Koresh from a written sheet of paper! A script! So if you believe it it's because you wish to.

Your herculean efforts to defend a child rapist are noted, however, her testimony is evidence which did not come from the FBI. Neither did that of Michelle Jones or any one of the surviving Branch Davidians making that claim.

Aside from that evidence, you don't get to make up your own definitions of words.

pedophilia

sexual feelings or activities that involve children

sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object​

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

If your research involved more than a paperback dictionary definition for descriptions of psychological conditions you would have a better grip on such issues as the Waco Massacre and you would know what you're talking about.

(Excerpt)

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.

[...]

Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[MikeK]

[...]

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

If you are ever called upon to describe something you saw or experienced, if you wish to seem credible I strongly recommend you speak from memory rather than read from a script.

PS/FYI: A "prepared statement" is something other than a memory. Do you understand that or do you need help with it?

 

[Borillar]

For some reason the fool repubs don't talk about it but it's a fact that bill clinton killed 80 some americans at waco in 1993. Burned them alive - including 30 kids. And then he threw the survivors in prison so they wouldn't talk.

This is no conspiracy theory. Everyone agrees clinton did this and hillary is married to this psychopath. I say bring it up.

Run with it!

 

[MikeK]

Where is your evidence koresh was a pedophile?

It's common knowledge among people who read. Google it...

What did the preteens he fucked get, a plastic Star of David I believe? And who knew that Jesus drove a '68 Camaro?

"David Koresh told them to call their parents "dogs"; only he was to be referred to as their father. Girls as young as 11 were given a plastic Star of David, signifying that they had "the light" and were ready to have sex with the cult leader. A team of therapists said these were some of the things that 19 of the 21 surviving children of the Branch Davidian cult had told them about their lives inside the compound."
Growing Up Under Koresh - Cult Children Tell of Abuses - NYTimes.com

Those are extremely disturbing accusations. Did you know they were originally made by Kiri Jewell's father, who had been a Branch Davidian until his wife left him to take up with David Koresh -- at which time he left the compound and began bad-mouthing Koresh all over town?

And are you aware that both the local sheriff and the Texas State Division of Child Protective Services thoroughly investigated those malicious charges and found them to be without merit? Here is a link to some facts about the Waco Massacre as gathered by the Press after the fire. Pay particular attention to the item on Allegations of Child Abuse. Assault on Waco

Considering the fact that Kiri Jewell read from a script when asked to describe her sexual experience with Koresh it is not difficult to be suspicious of the honesty of this mysterious Dr. Perry, who obviously was closely involved with the FBI and who submitted his "report" years after the Massacre.

Please focus on the details presented in the Press compilation and refer to the list of cites and footnotes for proof of unbiased integrity. Then ask yourself how easy it would be for the FBI to enlist the services of a quack if need be.

 

[Faun]

What about Kiri Jewell?

Even if what Kiri Jewell had to say about Koresh is true she was not pre-pubescent, therefore the issue of pedophilia is null and void. Because pedophilia refers to sexual contact with pre-pubescent children -- not with sexually mature minors.

Even if Koresh did engage in sexual relations with her, which the local sheriff and the Texas Department of Social Services' investigation says didn't happen, such actions are not unusual in religious cults and they certainly do not call for a commando raid by a federal agency.

If you will Google the Tom Snyder tv interview of Kiri Jewell you will see her read her accusation of David Koresh from a written sheet of paper! A script! So if you believe it it's because you wish to.

Your herculean efforts to defend a child rapist are noted, however, her testimony is evidence which did not come from the FBI. Neither did that of Michelle Jones or any one of the surviving Branch Davidians making that claim.

Aside from that evidence, you don't get to make up your own definitions of words.

pedophilia

sexual feelings or activities that involve children

sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object​

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

If your research involved more than a paperback dictionary definition for descriptions of psychological conditions you would have a better grip on such issues as the Waco Massacre and you would know what you're talking about.

(Excerpt)

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.

[...]

Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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You gotta be kidding me? Wikifuckingpedia?? Versus Merriam Webster. You know that anyone can edit Wikipedia, right? But even funnier than you sourcing Wikipedia is that it still shows you're wrong since the two girls I mentioned were ages 10 & 13 respectively.

 

[Faun]

[...]

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

If you are ever called upon to describe something you saw or experienced, if you wish to seem credible I strongly recommend you speak from memory rather than read from a script.

PS/FYI: A "prepared statement" is something other than a memory. Do you understand that or do you need help with it?

Umm, a prepared statement is still from memory and still her account of what happened to her. Preparing her thoughts constructively on paper before conveying them to Congress does not diminish her credibility, especially in the light that it was corroborated by other Davidians.

I'm sorry to expose your hero as the piece of shit scum that he was, but you can either bury your head in the sand to protect your fond memories of that dead child rapist or find a new hero.

 

[Synthaholic]

Guns Recovered at Branch Davidian Compound

Guide Extra --The following is from a "Memorandum to the Press" issued by Chris Peacock, Treasury Department Director of Public Affairs on July 13, 1995 showing a list of all firearms, explosives, and related material seized by Federal law enforcement officers following the April 19, 1993 assault on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas.

• SUBJECT: Weapons Possessed by the Branch Davidians
• In total, the Texas Department of Public Safety, led by the Texas
• Rangers, recovered more than 300 firearms from the Branch
• Davidian compound. In addition, a number of live grenades and
• more than 300 grenade components were uncovered. Hundreds of
• thousands of rounds of ammunition were also seized.
• The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms investigated David
• Koresh for conduct involving: the illegal manufacture of machine
• guns and the illegal manufacture and possession of destructive
• devices. The FBI report provides evidence that the Davidians'
• arsenal did indeed include weapons unlawfully manufactured. The
• weapons listed include semiautomatic firearms illegally modified
• to fire in full automatic mode, as well as grenades and
• silencers. All of these weapons were unlawfully possessed.
• I hope you find these documents useful as you review Treasury's
• report on ATF's role in events at Waco.
• WEAPONS RECOVERED FROM THE BRANCH DAVIDIAN COMPOUND:
• TREASURY SUMMARY OF REPORT PREPARED BY THE FBI FOR PROSECUTORS
• AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
• ILLEGAL WEAPONS RECOVERED
• Machine guns
• The FBI determined that 46 semiautomatic firearms had been
• modified to fire in full automatic mode:
• 22 M-16 Type Rifles
• 20 AK-47 Type Rifles
• 2 Heckler and Koch SP-89
• 2 M-11/Nine
• The FBI also determined that two AR-15 lower receivers had been
• modified to fire in full automatic mode.
• Silencers
• 21 Sound suppressors or silencers
• Hand Grenades
• 4 Live M-21 Practice Hand Grenades
• The possession of lawfully manufactured machineguns, silencers,
• or grenades requires the owner to register the weapon with the
• Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms. None of the compound's
• residents were registered to own such a weapon, therefore it
• would have been illegal for them to possess these weapons.
• WEAPONS RECOVERED FROM THE BRANCH DAVIDIAN COMPOUND:
• TREASURY SUMMARY OF REPORT PREPARED BY THE FBI FOR PROSECUTORS
• AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
• TOTAL WEAPONS RECOVERED
• (Including Weapons Mentioned on Previous Page)
• FIREARMS
• Rifles and Rifle Components
• 61 M-16 Type and 2 M-16 Lower Receivers
• 61 AK-47 Type
• 34 AR-15 Type and 2 AR-15 Lower Receivers
• 13 Shotguns -- 12 gauge
• 11 7.62MM FN FAL Type
• 10 Mini-14 Type
• 7 37mm. Flare Gun/Launcher Type
• 6 .30 Carbine Calber US Carbine, Model M1
• 6 Assorted Rifles
• 5 M-11/Nine
• 5 M-14 Type
• 3 Galil
• 2 Heckler and Koch SP-89
• 1 Air Rifle
• 1 Heckler and Koch MP-5
• 1 Sten submachine gun
• Pistols and Revolvers
• 23 Beretta
• 13 Glock
• 8 Assorted Revolvers
• 6 Safari Arms
• 6 Assorted Pistols
• 5 Sig Sauer
• 5 Walther
• 2 Taurus
• EXPLOSIVES
• Hand Grenades
• 4 Live M-21 Practice Hand Grenades
• 100+ Modified M-21 Practice Hand Grenade bodies; the bodies
• of these had been threaded and plugged but lacked a main charge
• or fusing system.
• 11 M-69 Practice Hand Grenades; the bodies of these
• grenades exhibited indications of attempted modifications.
• 219 Grenade Safety Pins
• 243 Grenade Safety Levers
• Rifle Grenades
• 200+ Inert M31 Practice Rifle Grenades.
• FIREARMS ACCESSORIES AND PARTS
• Silencers
• 21 Sound suppressors or silencers.
• Flash Suppressors
• 18 Flash Suppressors.
• Firearms Barrels
• 17 M-16/AR-15 Type (5.56mm)
• 8 M-16/AR-15 Type (9mm caliber)
• 3 M-16/AR-15 Type (.45 ACP caliber)
• 1 M-16/AR-15 Type (5.56mm)
• 2 Ruger. 22 Caliber
• 1 M-60 machine gun
• 1 12 Gauge Shotgun
• 1 Taurus, Model 92, 9mm pistol barrel
• 1 Sig Sauer 9mm pistol barrel
• Pistol Slides
• 1 Sig Sauer Model
• Revolver Parts
• 1 .38 Special caliber cylinder
• Bolt Carriers
• 39 M-16
• 24 AR-15
• 2 MP-5
• 2 AK-47
• 1 FAL
• 1 Unknown
• Bolts
• 15 AK-47
• 7 .22 LR conversion
• 3 M-16/AR-15
• 1 FN FAL (1)
• Bolt Assemblies
• 3 M-11/Nine
• 2 M-16
• 1 AR-15
• 1 MAC-10
• 1 Shotgun
• Recoil Springs and Guides
• 3 Glock
• 2 Sig Sauer
• 1 Beretta
• 1 M-11/Nine
• Stripper Clips
• 29 Stripper Clips
• Accessories
• 6 .22 LR Caliber Conversion Kits
• Hammers
• 31 AK-47
• 18 M-16
• 12 AR-15
• 4 M-11/Nine
• 2 Sig Sauer
• 1 Beretta
• Hammer Springs
• 3 AK-47
• Buffer/Recoil Springs
• 36 M-16/AR-15
• 4 AK-47
• Selector Switches
• 9 M-16
• 3 AR-15
• 1 Unknown
• Sears
• 1 M-11/Nine
• Auto Sears
• 8 AK-47
• 4 M-16
• 1 FN FAL
• Auto Sear Springs
• 12 AK-47
• Disconnects
• 7 AK-47
• 1 M-16
• Trigger/Trigger Mechanisms/Trigger Housings
• 17 M-16
• 6 AR-15
• 3 M-60
• 3 M-11/Nine
• 2 MP-5
• 2 Sten
• 1 AK-47
• 1 Heckler & Koch
• 1 M-14
• 1 Smith & Wesson
• 1 Beretta
• 1 Shotgun
• Ammunition Magazines
• 289 7.62 x 39mm AK-47 Type
• 248 .223/5.56mm M-16/AR-15 Type
• 108 Sten Gun Type
• 88 .308 Caliber FN FAL Type
• 72 M-14 Type
• 61 Beretta Model Type 92
• 58 .308 Caliber of Unknown Type
• 28 Ruger Mini-14 Type
• 22 .22 Caliber
• 17 UZI Type
• 16 USAS-12 Type
• 13 .45 Caliber
• 11 Glock
• 11 MP-5
• 11 Sig Sauer P226/P228
• 9 Unknown Type
• 7 .308 Caliber Galil Type
• 6 Walther PPK
• 5 9mm Unknown Type
• 4 .50 Caliber
• 3 .30 Caliber U.S. Carbine
• 3 .380 Auto Caliber
• 2 9mm Smith & Wesson
• 1 AK-74 Type
• 1 Grendel
• Ammunition Containers
• 220 Metal Boxes (Various Calibers)
• 15 Wooden Boxes (Various Calibers)
• 4 Buckets (Varioius Calibers)
• 1 Cardboard Boxes (Various Calibers)
• Magazine Springs
• 360 M-16/AR-15
• 42 FN FAL .308 Caliber Type
• 35 AK-47
• 28 9mm Magazine Springs of Unknown Type
• 15 Unknown
• 10 M-14
• 6 M-1 Carbine
• 3 .50 Caliber
• 1 Mini-14 Magazine
• 1 Glock
• These lists do not include dozens of other items recovered from
• the Compound such as dust covers, extractors, front and rear
• sights, gun cleaning equipment, bolt release levers,
• compensators, .50 caliber belt links and numerous other parts.

The davidians were in the gun repair business. think

Bullshit.

 

[Synthaholic]

MikeK defends pedophiles. Wow. You learn something new every day here at USMB!

 

[JakeStarkey]

This is a conspiracy thread, so please put in the appropriate forum.

 

[MikeK]

Your herculean efforts to defend a child rapist are noted, however, her testimony is evidence which did not come from the FBI. Neither did that of Michelle Jones or any one of the surviving Branch Davidians making that claim.

Aside from that evidence, you don't get to make up your own definitions of words.

pedophilia

sexual feelings or activities that involve children

sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object​

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

If your research involved more than a paperback dictionary definition for descriptions of psychological conditions you would have a better grip on such issues as the Waco Massacre and you would know what you're talking about.

(Excerpt)

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.

[...]

Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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You gotta be kidding me? Wikifuckingpedia?? Versus Merriam Webster. You know that anyone can edit Wikipedia, right? But even funnier than you sourcing Wikipedia is that it still shows you're wrong since the two girls I mentioned were ages 10 & 13 respectively.

For the benefit of those who might be swayed by your passionate need to propagate false testimony, Wikipedia's definition of pedophilia is derived from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, which is the formal reference of the American Psychiatric and Psychological Association. The specific reference re: pedophilia, for those who might care to verify it, is Table 17.3-4-TR, DSM-IV-TR.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Then use the current DSM, huh?

No one is going to accept wiki when you can offer the current DSM.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

If you are ever called upon to describe something you saw or experienced, if you wish to seem credible I strongly recommend you speak from memory rather than read from a script.

PS/FYI: A "prepared statement" is something other than a memory. Do you understand that or do you need help with it?

Umm, a prepared statement is still from memory and still her account of what happened to her. Preparing her thoughts constructively on paper before conveying them to Congress does not diminish her credibility, especially in the light that it was corroborated by other Davidians.

I'm sorry to expose your hero as the piece of shit scum that he was, but you can either bury your head in the sand to protect your fond memories of that dead child rapist or find a new hero.

David Koresh is nothing to me. My only concern in this issue is that of exposing and discrediting efforts by perverse elements of the American law-enforcement establishment and its authoritarian civilian puppets to justify what in fact was the worst crime ever perpetrated against American citizens by their government.

The first premise to be considered in the Waco incident is the brutal murder of 21 innocent children. The notion that the Davidians killed the children by starting the fire is a desperate attempt to divert from the fact that even if it were true the critical element of provocation cannot be ignored.

The simple fact of the matter is David Koresh, along with the hard-core group of his followers were believed to be insanely fanatical. Knowing there were innocent children in that compound, who would agree it was even vaguely reasonable to provoke reportedly suicidal fanatics?

So the more you try to justify what happened at Waco the more you reveal your own pathetic mentality. And you are truly pathetic.

 

[MikeK]

Then use the current DSM, huh?

No one is going to accept wiki when you can offer the current DSM.

Wikipedia is a perfectly adequate reference source for this level of discussion. But for those who are desperate to support their misleading position by discrediting Wikipedia I've provided the DSM reference. Anyone who is interested can easily research it -- probably via Google.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

As far as her reading from a prepared statement, that doesn't disqualify her testimony. I understand that as a Koresh acolyte, you are prepared to conjure up any defense imaginable, but that one doesn't help you.

If you are ever called upon to describe something you saw or experienced, if you wish to seem credible I strongly recommend you speak from memory rather than read from a script.

PS/FYI: A "prepared statement" is something other than a memory. Do you understand that or do you need help with it?

Umm, a prepared statement is still from memory and still her account of what happened to her. Preparing her thoughts constructively on paper before conveying them to Congress does not diminish her credibility, especially in the light that it was corroborated by other Davidians.

I'm sorry to expose your hero as the piece of shit scum that he was, but you can either bury your head in the sand to protect your fond memories of that dead child rapist or find a new hero.

If you were the victim/witness in a rape trial and I were the defense counsel, and I asked you to to describe what the defendant did to you, and you opened a sheet of paper and began reading from it, I would thank you for doing that and rest my case.