Since you're insane, you probably don't even think testimony is evidence ... but it is. That also probably explains why you're under the delusion that there wasn't even a "shred of evidence," when in fact, there is ...
You are thoroughly confused, Vagisil. The actual question was, "and who saw this branch Davidian?" Here's how it actually went (with the relevant portion highlighted)...Now this is rather strange ... Vagisil challenges me to resume this thread after it was pointed out on another thread how he made an ass of himself on this one ... I happily do so with the post below ... and Vagisil doesn't even respond to it.
Pawn, the question was how did the fire start, and since EVEN YOU admit, the FBI pumped in gas that was volatile to any sort of fire, even a pilot light would have set it off, the FBI was responsible! If NO GAS, NO FIRE.... but keep coming, little fellow, I'm enjoying this!
Faun: But since you want to dredge up the Waco thread, let me remind you how your response to me pointing out that a Branch Davidian was seen starting at least one of the fires was to make the empty claim that such an accusation came from the FBI and how they were not to be believed -- yet it was YOU who earlier posted a video of an independent researcher who made that claim.As far as the rest of your nonsense, a) they pumped gas in for at least 6 hours ... Yet no pilot light ignited it until Branch Davidians decided to burn their compound down; b) there were several independent fires which broke out almost simultaneously because they were intentionally started; c) Davidians were heard plotting to douse the compound with fuel; d) at least one of those fires is known to have been started intentionally by a Branch Davidian; e) it's a reasonable conclusion that if Davidians planned to start fires and Davidians poured fuel to feed those fires and at least one of several fires was known to have been started by a Davidian, that Davidians are responsible for the burning the compound to the ground; f) you claim you are enjoying this, yet I had to cajole you into playing along.
Vigilante: And who saw this branch Davidian? The independent researcher or the FBI, who we know are liars especially after Ruby Ridge?
Faun: WTF?? Who said he was quoting the FBI, whom he disparaged? Yet more unsubstantiated claims by you.
You are thoroughly confused, Vagisil. The actual question was, "and who saw this branch Davidian?" Here's how it actually went (with the relevant portion highlighted)...Pawn, the question was how did the fire start, and since EVEN YOU admit, the FBI pumped in gas that was volatile to any sort of fire, even a pilot light would have set it off, the FBI was responsible! If NO GAS, NO FIRE.... but keep coming, little fellow, I'm enjoying this!
Faun: But since you want to dredge up the Waco thread, let me remind you how your response to me pointing out that a Branch Davidian was seen starting at least one of the fires was to make the empty claim that such an accusation came from the FBI and how they were not to be believed -- yet it was YOU who earlier posted a video of an independent researcher who made that claim.As far as the rest of your nonsense, a) they pumped gas in for at least 6 hours ... Yet no pilot light ignited it until Branch Davidians decided to burn their compound down; b) there were several independent fires which broke out almost simultaneously because they were intentionally started; c) Davidians were heard plotting to douse the compound with fuel; d) at least one of those fires is known to have been started intentionally by a Branch Davidian; e) it's a reasonable conclusion that if Davidians planned to start fires and Davidians poured fuel to feed those fires and at least one of several fires was known to have been started by a Davidian, that Davidians are responsible for the burning the compound to the ground; f) you claim you are enjoying this, yet I had to cajole you into playing along.
Vigilante: And who saw this branch Davidian? The independent researcher or the FBI, who we know are liars especially after Ruby Ridge?
Faun: WTF?? Who said he was quoting the FBI, whom he disparaged? Yet more unsubstantiated claims by you.
And everything is SPECULATION! But it does come down to the FBI WAS RESPONSIBLE for pumping in the gas which ignited! If NO GAS, NO FIRES! After all, there were NO FIRES for 51 ******* DAYS, and ONLY when the FBI decided, for some erratic reason to act, was this mass murder accomplished! Continue please!
You are thoroughly confused, Vagisil. The actual question was, "and who saw this branch Davidian?" Here's how it actually went (with the relevant portion highlighted)...Faun: But since you want to dredge up the Waco thread, let me remind you how your response to me pointing out that a Branch Davidian was seen starting at least one of the fires was to make the empty claim that such an accusation came from the FBI and how they were not to be believed -- yet it was YOU who earlier posted a video of an independent researcher who made that claim.As far as the rest of your nonsense, a) they pumped gas in for at least 6 hours ... Yet no pilot light ignited it until Branch Davidians decided to burn their compound down; b) there were several independent fires which broke out almost simultaneously because they were intentionally started; c) Davidians were heard plotting to douse the compound with fuel; d) at least one of those fires is known to have been started intentionally by a Branch Davidian; e) it's a reasonable conclusion that if Davidians planned to start fires and Davidians poured fuel to feed those fires and at least one of several fires was known to have been started by a Davidian, that Davidians are responsible for the burning the compound to the ground; f) you claim you are enjoying this, yet I had to cajole you into playing along.
Vigilante: And who saw this branch Davidian? The independent researcher or the FBI, who we know are liars especially after Ruby Ridge?
Faun: WTF?? Who said he was quoting the FBI, whom he disparaged? Yet more unsubstantiated claims by you.
And everything is SPECULATION! But it does come down to the FBI WAS RESPONSIBLE for pumping in the gas which ignited! If NO GAS, NO FIRES! After all, there were NO FIRES for 51 ******* DAYS, and ONLY when the FBI decided, for some erratic reason to act, was this mass murder accomplished! Continue please!
The Davidians themselves poured fuel in the compound with the intention of lighting it. The Davidians themselves concocted a plan to start fires. The Davidians themselves started at least one of the fires, and in all probability, all of the fires. Do claim that without the FBI pumping in tear gas there would have been no fires does nothing other than to reveal just how divorced from reality you really are, Vagisil.
Do you light a candle every April 19th in honor of your fellow rightwingnut mass murderer, Timothy McVeigh?
Who knows what your point is? So the Davidians waited until the feds were coming in to get them before they committed suicide. Exactly what point do you think you've found there?And everything is SPECULATION! But it does come down to the FBI WAS RESPONSIBLE for pumping in the gas which ignited! If NO GAS, NO FIRES! After all, there were NO FIRES for 51 ******* DAYS, and ONLY when the FBI decided, for some erratic reason to act, was this mass murder accomplished! Continue please!
The Davidians themselves poured fuel in the compound with the intention of lighting it. The Davidians themselves concocted a plan to start fires. The Davidians themselves started at least one of the fires, and in all probability, all of the fires. Do claim that without the FBI pumping in tear gas there would have been no fires does nothing other than to reveal just how divorced from reality you really are, Vagisil.
Do you light a candle every April 19th in honor of your fellow rightwingnut mass murderer, Timothy McVeigh?
Yes, Pawn, 51 DAYS without a fire...FIFTY ONE DAYS, until attacked by the FBI and GAS pumped all throughout the compound.... All the evidence needed that the FBI IS RESPONSIBLE for all those deaths! Do you light candles for all the leftwing killers of children?
You're making shit up again. That's a good sign that you're lost the argument whether you admit it or not. He doesn't say he believes a Davidian started a fire, he said he knows a Davidian started a fire.
He didn't need to. He had more than enough federal goons with weapons and authority to take care of such unpleasantness.
Do you know what a pedophile is? If so, have you seen any convincing evidence that David Koresh was a pedophile?
Just how insane are you, Vagisil? Unlike you, I never speculated how he knows. I merely pointed out that he says he does. YOU'RE the one who tried to claim he knows because of the FBI. So if anyone here is speculating on how he knows -- it's you. My post remains in tact, you failed to even dent it.
