Should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

[ABikerSailor]

Children should be raised by a mother and a father.

Really? Because I had a father and a mother until I was orphaned at 8. Wanna know how my "fathers" treated me?

My biological father was pressured by his family after he divorced my mother to have her new husband adopt me. Why? He is from a very wealthy family and they didn't want me to have any claims to their fortune. He paid off her new husband 25,000 to make it happen.

Her next husband was a dude named Jack, and apparently he had a bit of PTSD, because everytime he got in a bad mood, I got thrown down cement stairs.

The last husband she had before she died was named Bob. He was the worst of all, because not only did he beat me senseless at least once a week, he also sexually abused my sister and on occasion did it in front of me.

The parents of the foster families that followed weren't much better. Why? Because most of the time, one parent was happy I was there, but one parent feltput upon because I was there. Not exactly happy childhood conditions, even though I had a male and a female that were parent figures.

The only place I ever felt wanted (besides my mother), was with my Grandparents, which is why I went to live with them my last year of high school.

No, having parents isn't always an ideal situation.

 

[Joy4Uall]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

I don't think PEOPLE hate gays.

But obviously GOD does.

Reading the Bible you seem to be right about that.

 

[yiostheoy]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

No. Children are best served by having a male and female role model. It is not ethical for people who prefer to have sex with the same gender to adopt kids. It is selfish for them to do so. That isn't ethical. That is selfishness.

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

 

[Sunni Man]

Allowing homo's to adopt children is child abuse. ...

 

[Joy4Uall]

They seem more loving than those that say that gays should NOT be allowed to adopt.

So then you've answered your own question. Now you can go back to gay central and report.

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

 

[Weatherman2020]

They seem more loving than those that say that gays should NOT be allowed to adopt.

So then you've answered your own question. Now you can go back to gay central and report.

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Yep. And every time socialism collapses in failure, the answer always is "they just didn't do it right".

 

[yiostheoy]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

Took one post didn't it. Americans will always require some out group to oppress, it's just who we are.

We still have Negroes for that role, however illegal Mexicans are slowly taking that role over.

 

[yiostheoy]

Sure

They can love children the same as heterosexuals

The Bible doesn't agree with you - so who is wrong, you or god/Bible?

See the 1st Amendment.

 

[ding]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

No. Children are best served by having a male and female role model. It is not ethical for people who prefer to have sex with the same gender to adopt kids. It is selfish for them to do so. That isn't ethical. That is selfishness.

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

 

[Joy4Uall]

Allowing homo's to adopt children is child abuse. ...

Which is worse, "allowing homo's to adopt children", or Mohammad having sex with a child when he was 54 and she was 9 years-old, but what the all-knowing Allah would know about the mental and physical damage that sex with kids causes, Sunni Man? Please tell us, my friend.

 

[Fenton Lum]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

Took one post didn't it. Americans will always require some out group to oppress, it's just who we are.

We still have Negroes for that role, however illegal Mexicans are slowly taking that role over.

We’ve shown the capacity to oppress multiple groups at once, both at home and across the globe. Depends upon the profit margin.

 

[ding]

So then you've answered your own question. Now you can go back to gay central and report.

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Not a socialist, either.

Communism is naturalized humanism. Karl Marx

 

[Fenton Lum]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

No. Children are best served by having a male and female role model. It is not ethical for people who prefer to have sex with the same gender to adopt kids. It is selfish for them to do so. That isn't ethical. That is selfishness.

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

 

[yiostheoy]

It seems to me that the answer is we need to follow the 1st Amendment.

That may be hard to stomach for Christians however the 1st Amendment is Federal law.

 

[ding]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

No. Children are best served by having a male and female role model. It is not ethical for people who prefer to have sex with the same gender to adopt kids. It is selfish for them to do so. That isn't ethical. That is selfishness.

This is the classic Christian response.

But you ding -go are forgetting the 1st Amendment -- separation of church and state.

Bad memory.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

Fuck you and your religion.

Bless your heart.

 

[Joy4Uall]

Every child should be handed over to such parents.
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They seem more loving than those that say that gays should NOT be allowed to adopt.

So then you've answered your own question. Now you can go back to gay central and report.

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody",

You apparently disagree with "love everybody"? Is "hate everybody" better?

 

[ding]

It seems to me that the answer is we need to follow the 1st Amendment.

That may be hard to stomach for Christians however the 1st Amendment is Federal law.

The establishment clause of the 1st amendment was written to protect the ESTABLISHED STATE RELIGIONS from the federal government - of which half of the states had at the time the constitution was ratified - by preventing the federal government from establishing a national religion.

 

[yiostheoy]

Allowing homo's to adopt children is child abuse. ...

Virtually every muslim I know male or female is homo.

They spend their teenage years homo and then they switch to hetero when/if they get married.

 

[Joy4Uall]

So then you've answered your own question. Now you can go back to gay central and report.

I'm not gay, myself - I just have adopted (did I just do that) the Scientific Humanist principle of "love everybody", so I love them too much to deny them the right to adopt. They are not hurting me, so I don't want to hurt them by denying them the right to be a loving parent. Hopefully that makes sense.

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership.

Not a communist, as we believe in freedom (economic freedom would be a part of that.)
It's not "hostility" towards religions, but rather knowing a better way, a way that is better for the world and for humanity, mi amigo. One based on science, reason, critical thinking, not on faith, fear, and authority, for example.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Basically... they are liars.

Yep. And every time socialism collapses in failure, the answer always is "they just didn't do it right".

Glad I'm not a socialist.

 

[ding]

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