Should Billionaires Even Exist?

The top three billionaires own more wealth than the bottom half of the USA population. This wealth disparity on the side of those of extreme riches has been slowly increasing. A lot of Americans have come to believe that these guys deserve all this loot because they work harder and smarter than the rest of us. When does it stop? When the top two or three own 70%? 80% of the wealth?

PolitiFact - Bernie Sanders: Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett have more wealth than bottom half of U.S.

Did you ever ask yourself how they got that money? Did you ever ask yourself who is responsible? The answer to both those questions are YOU. That's right, you are responsible for their wealth. So am I, so is every member of this forum.

Sometime this week, or perhaps several times, you are going to send your money to the top. You may stop at Wendy's or McDonald's for a coffee or meal. You sent your money to the top when you bought that phone or computer you're on right now. You are sending your money to the top by being on this internet. Going to see or order a new movie? Sending your money to the top. Need gasoline for your car? You will send your money to the top. How about that new video game that just came out? Sending your money to the top.

So now that you have sent all your money to the top, and you benefited by their products or services, you now want your money back. Does that seem fair to you? If you really want to put a stop to millionaires and billionaires, the answer is not government or wealth distribution. The solution to the problem is for you to quit sending them all your money.
 
Cool story...
Tell me, how does your neighbor achieving more than you, earning more than you, possessing more than you affect your life and or wealth potential?
How does Jeff Bezos stand in your way?
Easy

Our nation used to achieve great things and had government services and infrastructure that was the envy of the world.

Since we have embraced supply side economics we have lived on an austerity budget with infrastructure, education and healthcare suffering.

How could that be if the treasury is taking in record amounts of cash and we’re spending more than ever?
Are you pulling shit from your ass again?

The treasury always takes in more cash over time. It is a function of economic and population expansion

We are also taxing corporations and the one percent at the lowest rate in decades

Shouldn’t you and jasonnfree get your tens of millions of pet wetbacks and lowlife degenerates to contribute something before you start begging for more from those already paying your way?
  • The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent).
  • The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 26.9 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.7 percent).
Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2018 Update
Sorry, don’t feel like arguing with bigots today

TRANSLATION:
“You make too much sense, I hate overly informed rational, logical folks...I have no practical refutation to offer....therefore I scream at the sky....RACIST!”
 
George Soros is a billionaire, why isn't he in the picture?


He helps keep the left wing hate site that wrote the article in business. They know who butters their bread.

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Doris thinks his own taxes should be raised

With that I quote George W Bush. "For those who say government should take more of their money, I am happy to tell you the IRS accepts all checks and money orders."

Text Of Bush's State Of The Union Speech

Did George W Bush also say that those who say we should invade Iraq should join the Army?

I fail to see the comparison here. That's like saying if we are going to have new programs like government healthcare or free college, it should only be funded by Democrats. Apples and oranges.
 
Easy

Our nation used to achieve great things and had government services and infrastructure that was the envy of the world.

Since we have embraced supply side economics we have lived on an austerity budget with infrastructure, education and healthcare suffering.

How could that be if the treasury is taking in record amounts of cash and we’re spending more than ever?
Are you pulling shit from your ass again?

The treasury always takes in more cash over time. It is a function of economic and population expansion

We are also taxing corporations and the one percent at the lowest rate in decades

Shouldn’t you and jasonnfree get your tens of millions of pet wetbacks and lowlife degenerates to contribute something before you start begging for more from those already paying your way?
  • The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent).
  • The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 26.9 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.7 percent).
Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2018 Update
Sorry, don’t feel like arguing with bigots today

TRANSLATION:
“You make too much sense, I hate overly informed rational, logical folks...I have no practical refutation to offer....therefore I scream at the sky....RACIST!”
I told you I am not playing with our bigoted posters today
 
George Soros is a billionaire, why isn't he in the picture?


He helps keep the left wing hate site that wrote the article in business. They know who butters their bread.

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Doris thinks his own taxes should be raised

With that I quote George W Bush. "For those who say government should take more of their money, I am happy to tell you the IRS accepts all checks and money orders."

Text Of Bush's State Of The Union Speech

Did George W Bush also say that those who say we should invade Iraq should join the Army?

I fail to see the comparison here. That's like saying if we are going to have new programs like government healthcare or free college, it should only be funded by Democrats. Apples and oranges.
The comparison is simply this
We do not have an ala carte government
You do not get to pick and choose what programs or taxes you want to support
 
The American people who support socialized medicine are behaving like the exact definition of insanity - re-doubling your efforts while losing sight of your goals and ignoring all the harm already done.

The more government gets involved in healthcare, the worse and more expensive it gets, and the wealthier the pols and big pharma get.

At some point, you are either completely moronic, or you start to notice....
 
He helps keep the left wing hate site that wrote the article in business. They know who butters their bread.

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Doris thinks his own taxes should be raised

With that I quote George W Bush. "For those who say government should take more of their money, I am happy to tell you the IRS accepts all checks and money orders."

Text Of Bush's State Of The Union Speech

Did George W Bush also say that those who say we should invade Iraq should join the Army?

I fail to see the comparison here. That's like saying if we are going to have new programs like government healthcare or free college, it should only be funded by Democrats. Apples and oranges.
The comparison is simply this
We do not have an ala carte government
You do not get to pick and choose what programs or taxes you want to support

Sure you do. It's called voting and getting your representative in power. Buffet is a hypocrite. He takes every deduction available to him. He fights with the IRS. Then he goes public and states the government is not taking enough from him. Well no shit. But even he knows that no new or increased tax will ever touch his wealth, it will only apply to people trying to make it to his level of success.

When you're on top, you want to be the only one on top.
 
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You know what’s not cool anymore? Billionaires.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Elizabeth Warren believe some Americans have too much money, and they’re not alone.

Their very existence is now the subject of political debate, sparked most recently by tax-the-rich proposals from two prominent politicians.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) proposed placing a 2 percent tax on wealth over $50 million and 3 percent on assets over $1 billion. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said she wants to increase the marginal tax rate on those earning more than $10 million a year.

Their ideas went viral, starting a mainstream conversation about inequality and wealth.

This kind of talk has always existed among a certain group of hard-core progressives and left-leaning economists, but heading into next year’s presidential election, the idea that the super-rich should pay their fair share is gaining real momentum.

Marshall Steinbaum, a research director at the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute, has advocated taxing the rich at higher rates for years. “We do not need billionaires,” Steinbaum told HuffPost. “The economy’s done better without billionaires in the past.”

For Steinbaum, higher taxes on the wealthy would mean freeing up more money for everyone else. If you think of the economy as a pie, right now, billionaires are getting just about all of it, while we’re all left splitting just one slice.

If you raise taxes on the richest, their incentive to grab at every morsel declines. The theory is they’ll fight a little less hard to depress everyone else’s wages if they know that every extra million is going to get taxed away. A high-paid CEO has less incentive to keep workers’ wages low so he can get a bigger payday.

Billionaires were once a rare breed. In the past few decades, as the U.S. has slashed tax rates, their numbers have exploded, far outpacing inflation.

Since 2008, the number of billionaires in the world has doubled, according to a report published last week by the anti-poverty nonprofit Oxfam. In just the last year, billionaires raked in an astonishing $2.5 billion each day.

In 1982, the first year Forbes debuted its list of the 400 richest Americans, there were about a dozen billionaires. The richest man in the U.S. back then was an 85-year-old shipping magnate with an estimated worth of $2 billion, or $5.2 billion in today’s dollars.

"We do not need billionaires. The economy’s done better without billionaires in the past."
--Marshall Steinbaum, Roosevelt Institute​

Nowadays, Forbes’ list is entirely billionaires. The richest is Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, worth $160 billion.

More: Should Billionaires Even Exist?

I agree! Billionaires aren't cool anymore! The playing field is tilted like the Titanic before it went down. There is no logical reason for so few to have so much. What do you think?
What a joke....wealth is not a finite, static pie.

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If the US and other countries with billionaires were such disasters, why are so many migrating from other countries to the countries with billionaires???


Leftist logic = there isn't any
 
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You know what’s not cool anymore? Billionaires.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Elizabeth Warren believe some Americans have too much money, and they’re not alone.

Their very existence is now the subject of political debate, sparked most recently by tax-the-rich proposals from two prominent politicians.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) proposed placing a 2 percent tax on wealth over $50 million and 3 percent on assets over $1 billion. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said she wants to increase the marginal tax rate on those earning more than $10 million a year.

Their ideas went viral, starting a mainstream conversation about inequality and wealth.

This kind of talk has always existed among a certain group of hard-core progressives and left-leaning economists, but heading into next year’s presidential election, the idea that the super-rich should pay their fair share is gaining real momentum.

Marshall Steinbaum, a research director at the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute, has advocated taxing the rich at higher rates for years. “We do not need billionaires,” Steinbaum told HuffPost. “The economy’s done better without billionaires in the past.”

For Steinbaum, higher taxes on the wealthy would mean freeing up more money for everyone else. If you think of the economy as a pie, right now, billionaires are getting just about all of it, while we’re all left splitting just one slice.

If you raise taxes on the richest, their incentive to grab at every morsel declines. The theory is they’ll fight a little less hard to depress everyone else’s wages if they know that every extra million is going to get taxed away. A high-paid CEO has less incentive to keep workers’ wages low so he can get a bigger payday.

Billionaires were once a rare breed. In the past few decades, as the U.S. has slashed tax rates, their numbers have exploded, far outpacing inflation.

Since 2008, the number of billionaires in the world has doubled, according to a report published last week by the anti-poverty nonprofit Oxfam. In just the last year, billionaires raked in an astonishing $2.5 billion each day.

In 1982, the first year Forbes debuted its list of the 400 richest Americans, there were about a dozen billionaires. The richest man in the U.S. back then was an 85-year-old shipping magnate with an estimated worth of $2 billion, or $5.2 billion in today’s dollars.

"We do not need billionaires. The economy’s done better without billionaires in the past."
--Marshall Steinbaum, Roosevelt Institute​

Nowadays, Forbes’ list is entirely billionaires. The richest is Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, worth $160 billion.

More: Should Billionaires Even Exist?

I agree! Billionaires aren't cool anymore! The playing field is tilted like the Titanic before it went down. There is no logical reason for so few to have so much. What do you think?
What a joke....wealth is not a finite, static pie.

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk
Of course not
That is why they should be taxed
 
5c51ed9124000096019fa4e8.jpeg


You know what’s not cool anymore? Billionaires.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Elizabeth Warren believe some Americans have too much money, and they’re not alone
Their very existence is now the subject of political debate, sparked most recently by tax-the-rich proposals from two prominent politicians.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) proposed placing a 2 percent tax on wealth over $50 million and 3 percent on assets over $1 billion. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said she wants to increase the marginal tax rate on those earning more than $10 million a year.

Their ideas went viral, starting a mainstream conversation about inequality and wealth.

This kind of talk has always existed among a certain group of hard-core progressives and left-leaning economists, but heading into next year’s presidential election, the idea that the super-rich should pay their fair share is gaining real momentum.

Marshall Steinbaum, a research director at the left-leaning Roosevelt Institute, has advocated taxing the rich at higher rates for years. “We do not need billionaires,” Steinbaum told HuffPost. “The economy’s done better without billionaires in the past.”

For Steinbaum, higher taxes on the wealthy would mean freeing up more money for everyone else. If you think of the economy as a pie, right now, billionaires are getting just about all of it, while we’re all left splitting just one slice.

If you raise taxes on the richest, their incentive to grab at every morsel declines. The theory is they’ll fight a little less hard to depress everyone else’s wages if they know that every extra million is going to get taxed away. A high-paid CEO has less incentive to keep workers’ wages low so he can get a bigger payday.

Billionaires were once a rare breed. In the past few decades, as the U.S. has slashed tax rates, their numbers have exploded, far outpacing inflation.

Since 2008, the number of billionaires in the world has doubled, according to a report published last week by the anti-poverty nonprofit Oxfam. In just the last year, billionaires raked in an astonishing $2.5 billion each day.

In 1982, the first year Forbes debuted its list of the 400 richest Americans, there were about a dozen billionaires. The richest man in the U.S. back then was an 85-year-old shipping magnate with an estimated worth of $2 billion, or $5.2 billion in today’s dollars.

"We do not need billionaires. The economy’s done better without billionaires in the past."
--Marshall Steinbaum, Roosevelt Institute​

Nowadays, Forbes’ list is entirely billionaires. The richest is Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, worth $160 billion.

More: Should Billionaires Even Exist?

I agree! Billionaires aren't cool anymore! The playing field is tilted like the Titanic before it went down. There is no logical reason for so few to have so much. What do you think?

Actually, I would argue that poor people shouldn’t exist.

it is much more difficult to become a billionaire than it is to be poor. Most billionaires contribute much more to society than poor people. Billions create jobs, technology and many donate billions to the greater good.

if you looking to eliminate a wealth class, I’d get rid of the poor people.

If we took all the poor people, put them on an island somewhere, nobody would be missed. In fact, since they cause most of the violent crime, our society would benefit greatly. If we took all the wealthy and did the same thing, the country collapses.
Hitler had the same idea except it was Jews.

Who said it was an idea? I just pointed out the value that wealthy people in our society represent, and the lack of value our poor people have.

You believe that wealthy people have a higher value than you? Isn't it true that we have poor because of wealthy people?
 
Change the law so that anyone with Net Income over "X" per year is obliged to transfer >X into the US Treasury as a non-deductible levy. :21:
Since most wealthy people are corporations, How would that work?
Your response rests upon the belief that societal pressures will not sweep such distinctions aside as conditions worsen...

It's easy enough to force a piercing of the corporate veil when the will to do so exists...

It's not a distinction, it's an IRS rule.
 
Do the Obama's really need a $15 million dollar ocean front mansion when they already have a house in Chicago? Does Bernie really need 3 houses? When you libtards start practicing what you preach call us.
 
Greedy assholes thinking that the government should steal money from successful people to give to them is like Tony Soprano thinking that the successful business in his home town should pay him more "protection" money. You know, because he deserves it and the business doesn't need that much money.

You watch to much TV.
 
I have no problem with Billionaires. They have earned their money

I just think they should pay 50 percent of income over $1 million

Thank You! How am I going to pay 50% of my income when I have all of the nifty Republican written tax loopholes?
 
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Do the Obama's really need a $15 million dollar ocean front mansion when they already have a house in Chicago? Does Bernie really need 3 houses? When you libtards start practicing what you preach call us.

You want to punish successful people because you aren't?
 
George Soros is a billionaire, why isn't he in the picture?


He helps keep the left wing hate site that wrote the article in business. They know who butters their bread.

.
Doris thinks his own taxes should be raised

With that I quote George W Bush. "For those who say government should take more of their money, I am happy to tell you the IRS accepts all checks and money orders."

Text Of Bush's State Of The Union Speech

You're quoting the guy that crashed the world economy? Really?
 
Do the Obama's really need a $15 million dollar ocean front mansion when they already have a house in Chicago? Does Bernie really need 3 houses? When you libtards start practicing what you preach call us.

You want to punish successful people because you aren't?

Shut up troll boy I pay more in taxes than you earn. :itsok:
 
should poor people even exist?

America has more billionaires than any other major nation, it also has more people in poverty than any nation. not by accident, but by design, my friends!

GOD DAMN AMERICA! THAT'S IN THE BIBLE!
 
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