Have you ever even read the Constitution?
"Atheism" is not protected.
My religious freedom as an American is protected. And that includes my right not to be forced to believe in your fairy tales.
Should atheists or progressives be allowed to hold office?
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Have you ever even read the Constitution?
"Atheism" is not protected.
My religious freedom as an American is protected. And that includes my right not to be forced to believe in your fairy tales.
Vandalshandle
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It's no big deal. it is like Texans pledging Allegiance to the flag, "...one nation, indivisible..." and then going to their RW group meeting to plan for their strategy to secede from the union.
God(and yes I am being ironic by saying that) you are ignorant.
"endowed by their creator with inalienable rights' is from the Declaration of Independence- not the Constitution.
I uphold the Constitution be actually knowing what it says.
You think you uphold the Constittion merely by believing in some God.
So you are an atheist- and an ignorant partisan idiot.
See- atheists can be just like Christians.
And of course you ignore Thomas Paine- because- well its convenient.
Most of the rest were deists- not particularly Christians and I think all of them would have rejected the idea that someone needed to believe in some God(oddly any god apparently will do) in order to care about the U.S. Constitution.
How do we know this? Because they put this very specific clause in the Constitution. A clause which anti-Constitution fascists like yourself want to ignore.
.; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
Norman
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Saying that lying is not okay makes you partisan?
Well of course to a lib. They always lie.
Hitler and Stalin were both raised Christians- what was it about being raised Christians that turned them into such killers?
Good Christians between between the years 500 to the 1800's killed millions of persons just because they were the wrong faith- or even worse- the wrong kind of Christian.
Really your argument comes down to that 'Atheism is bad because Atheists have killed more millions of people than Christians have killed millions of people"- which is really a stupid argument.
And the lazy kind intellectually vapid argument that Christians often make
guno
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Our homegrown christer taliban are no different in mentality as their Islamic Taliban brethren, both should be put down as they are the opposite of a free and opened society
Christian Taliban
VICTIMS OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH
Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades
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No I am saying that
you are an atheist- and an ignorant partisan idiot and also a liar.
Stop bringing facts and rationality into this thread!
Norman
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guno
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Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814, responding to the claim that Chritianity was part of the Common Law of England, as the United States Constitution defaults to the Common Law regarding matters that it does not address. This argument is still used today by "Christian Nation" revisionists who do not admit to having read Thomas Jefferson's thorough research of this matter.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp July 30, 1816, denouncing the doctrine of the Trinity and suggesting it to be so riddled in falsehood that only an authoritarian figure could decipher its meaning and, with a firm grip on people's spiritual and mental freedoms, thus convince the people of its truthfulness
The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.- Thomas Jefferson
“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.”
Jefferson’s letter to John Adams, April 11 1823
“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams
“The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
John Adams
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814, responding to the claim that Chritianity was part of the Common Law of England, as the United States Constitution defaults to the Common Law regarding matters that it does not address. This argument is still used today by "Christian Nation" revisionists who do not admit to having read Thomas Jefferson's thorough research of this matter.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp July 30, 1816, denouncing the doctrine of the Trinity and suggesting it to be so riddled in falsehood that only an authoritarian figure could decipher its meaning and, with a firm grip on people's spiritual and mental freedoms, thus convince the people of its truthfulness
The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.- Thomas Jefferson
“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.”
Jefferson’s letter to John Adams, April 11 1823
“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams
“The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
John Adams
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TheProgressivePatriot
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Freedom of religion is also freedom FROM religion!
Tehon
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John Stuart Mills philosophy of Utilitarianism gave us the blessings of Communism and fascism. IF that doesnt convince you of the dangers of atheism, well not sure what else to provide......
You can always tell when someone is in over their head........they start making shit up.
Lakhota
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You obviously don't know jack shit about Atheists - or the Constitution which doesn't require a religious test or even mention God (our Constitution is a secular document). Would you prefer religious zombies who believe in a supernatural Sky Daddy - even though they have absolutely no proof of such an entity?
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TheProgressivePatriot
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This is all a major load of inane equine excrement! Who are you to presume that you know what all progressives and atheists believe?
Humans have no inherent rights? seriously bubba?
Don't believe in the Constitution? We don't believe in your bastardized interpretation of it. Most conservatives haven't even read the Constitution while claiming to love it, but really wanting to go back to the Articles of Confederation.
If you think that there can be or should be a religious or political test for running for office, it only proves my point about your loyalty to and appreciation for the Constitution.
guno
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The First Amendment bars all laws “respecting an establishment of religion” and protects “the free exercise thereof.” Nothing here indicates that the latter provision applies only to Christian faiths.Finding no support for their ideas in the body of the Constitution, Christian-nation advocates are left to point to other documents, including the Declaration of Independence. This also fails. The Declaration’s reference to “the Creator” is plainly deistic. More obscure documents such as the Northwest Ordinance or personal writings by various framers are interesting historically but do not rise to the level of governance documents. When it comes to determining the manner of the U.S. government, only the Constitution matters. The Constitution does not declare that the United States is a Christian nation
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