Seven Days In September: The Truth About Jade Helm...

[LoneLaugher]

I don't know about FEMA camps and such.

I do know that a massive economic collapse in the US is inevitable... and not long in coming. It does at least raise the question of what TPTB plan to do about the resulting chaos.

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

 

[g5000]

Conspiracy theorists of the Jade Helm BOO! category light a candle every evening and ask Jesus for an economic collapse followed by martial law followed by mass executions, just so they can be proven right for once.

PLEASE, JESUS, PLEASE! THROW ME A BONE HERE!

 

[JoshuaZ]

Very interesting piece by Ray Starmann.


“Ah, you knew there’d be some dislocations. You can’t gear a country’s economy for war for 20 years, then suddenly slam on the brakes and expect the whole transition to go like grease through a goose. Doesn’t work out like that. And think how the whole psychology of the thing’s been screwed up from the outset.” – Senator Raymond Clark, Seven Days in May

In his farewell address on January 17, 1961, President Eisenhower warned the nation about a future threat to its liberty from the military-industrial complex. “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.”

Flash forward to March of 2015 and the leak of a U.S. Army brief concerning a gigantic Special Operations Exercise called Jade Helm 15, set to commence on July 15th and conclude on September 15th. Most significantly, one of the pages in the presentation contains a map of the Southwest, where the states of Texas and Utah and several Republican counties in Southern California are labelled as ‘hostile.’

At first the military denied the briefing was real. But, pressure by the media caused them to admit that for the first time, US military units will be operating in ten states simultaneously, and mainly on private land and in American towns and cities. Special Operations troops will be practicing all of the things they do well; airborne insertions, raids, direct action missions and counter-guerilla operations...

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Paulitician,

What probability do you estimate that martial law will be declared in the South-West before the end of Jade Helm or within 2 months of the operation?

What probability do you estimate that a military dictatorship will be formed in the US during Jade Helm or within 2 months of the operation?

 

[MisterBeale]

It has been stated that the US Army trains their personnel in environments where they are actually expecting to fight a war. This would seem to indicate they intend to fight in American cities.

I think most of us know by now, we can't trust anything federal government employees or politicians say.

Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie

EMF Safety Garments Bedding Grounding Devices

 

[syonidv]

I don't know about FEMA camps and such.

I do know that a massive economic collapse in the US is inevitable... and not long in coming. It does at least raise the question of what TPTB plan to do about the resulting chaos.

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

 

[orogenicman]

I don't know about FEMA camps and such.

I do know that a massive economic collapse in the US is inevitable... and not long in coming. It does at least raise the question of what TPTB plan to do about the resulting chaos.

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

 

[whitehall]

Yeah, unlike most posters on the forum I read books and I read the book "Seven days in May" (the movie wasn't bad either, Burt Lancaster as a traitor) so I get it. I don't buy the the conspiracy theory though. You give the incoherent administration too much credit when you think they could mount a reverse coup and take over the greatest Country in the world. The democrat party is falling apart with their hero worship of the wife of a Arkansas pervert and you underestimate the capacity of American Military leadership to see through a cheap trick.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I don't know about FEMA camps and such.

I do know that a massive economic collapse in the US is inevitable... and not long in coming. It does at least raise the question of what TPTB plan to do about the resulting chaos.

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

 

[Skylar]

Seriously. Its like batshit cubed. Where one headjob agrees with another....and both think their conspiracy matters because of it.

 

[syonidv]

I don't know about FEMA camps and such.

I do know that a massive economic collapse in the US is inevitable... and not long in coming. It does at least raise the question of what TPTB plan to do about the resulting chaos.

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

How big of you.

I don't know about FEMA camps and such.

I do know that a massive economic collapse in the US is inevitable... and not long in coming. It does at least raise the question of what TPTB plan to do about the resulting chaos.

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

Presuming it's how I got my kicks, my prerequisite for trolling conspiracy theory threads would be certainty of the impossibility of the theories' suppositions, yes.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The military is going to invade Texas because they finally discovered that LBJ was not in the motorcade. That was just his double. LBJ was on the grassy knoll disguised as a humble umbrella salesman, and shot JFK. He had been paid to do that by North Vietnam, but LBJ double crossed them and escalated the war, instead. Vietnam now secretly controls our military, by having sold cheap drugs to baby boomer grunts, who are now Defence Secretary's and Sec.s of each of the armed forces, and they want revenge.

Anybody who doesn't see this is just plain blind....

 

[whitehall]

The military is going to invade Texas because they finally discovered that LBJ was not in the motorcade. That was just his double. LBJ was on the grassy knoll disguised as a humble umbrella salesman, and shot JFK. He had been paid to do that by North Vietnam, but LBJ double crossed them and escalated the war, instead. Vietnam now secretly controls our military, by having sold cheap drugs to baby boomer grunts, who are now Defence Secretary's and Sec.s of each of the armed forces, and they want revenge.

Anybody who doesn't see this is just plain blind....

Everybody knows that outlaw bikers are out to take over Texas so a post from a Harley logo might be part of the plot.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

How big of you.

Boo!

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

Presuming it's how I got my kicks, my prerequisite for trolling conspiracy theory threads would be certainty of the impossibility of the theories' suppositions, yes.

It's not "trolling" to demand that you guys back up your ridiculous theories with more than just "it's possible!".

The burden of proof lies on the positive claim. It's not up to us to prove your theories wrong, it's up to you to prove them right.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

How big of you.

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

Presuming it's how I got my kicks, my prerequisite for trolling conspiracy theory threads would be certainty of the impossibility of the theories' suppositions, yes.

It's not "trolling" to demand that you guys back up your ridiculous theories with more than just "it's possible!".

The burden of proof lies on the positive claim. It's not up to us to prove your theories wrong, it's up to you to prove them right.

Ours is not to prove or disprove. Ours is to mock!

 

[Skylar]

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

How big of you.

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

Presuming it's how I got my kicks, my prerequisite for trolling conspiracy theory threads would be certainty of the impossibility of the theories' suppositions, yes.

It's not "trolling" to demand that you guys back up your ridiculous theories with more than just "it's possible!".

The burden of proof lies on the positive claim. It's not up to us to prove your theories wrong, it's up to you to prove them right.

'If its not impossible it must be true' is some pretty weak tea.

Does the term 'likelihood' or 'probability' or 'snowball's chance in hell' mean anything to these guys?

 

[syonidv]

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

How big of you.

Boo who?

I realize you're skeptical, and rightly so. But doesn't it bother you even the tiniest bit that you have the largest US military urban combat drill in history taking place in the US heartland, ostensibly for no reason whatsoever?

Are you so confident that such an exercise can't possibly be an early rehearsal for martial law that you're compelled to ridicule the notion?

If US federal interests were anticipating an economic collapse and wanted to conduct such a rehearsal, is there anything that would convince you the threat might be credible? Do you categorically reject the possibility of an economic collapse? Of martial law? What elements are missing from what is presently known about "Jade Helm" that would allay your skepticism?

I'm curious. I extend the same inquiries to g5000.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

Presuming it's how I got my kicks, my prerequisite for trolling conspiracy theory threads would be certainty of the impossibility of the theories' suppositions, yes.

It's not "trolling" to demand that you guys back up your ridiculous theories with more than just "it's possible!".

The burden of proof lies on the positive claim. It's not up to us to prove your theories wrong, it's up to you to prove them right.

The point of the thread isn't to prove the theory, it's to call attention to the Jade Helm exercise in the context of the theory. If a threat fails to materialize, the OP moves on. If relevant new developments become known, the OP adds them to corpus of evidence and systematically builds a case.

That's what the skeptical cohort in this thread doesn't get. Conspiracy theories are exercises in open-minded "blue sky" hypotheses. They aren't presented as rigorous atomic theories, nor are they intended to be.

The difference between legitimate criticism and trolling is the quality of the counterarguments. Legitimate criticism avoids ad hominems, attacks specific contentions, and acknowledges the limited scope and fungible nature of the theory. Trolling is a bunch of gradeschool boys assailing an implausible theory with cheap jokes because they recognize the implausibility but they don't comprehend the nature of the exercise.

In short, you're missing the point and wasting your time. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Some posters are outright bullying, hiding behind the same old tired excuses that the OP 'deserves it'.

If the theory doesn't interest you, get out of the thread. Find something that does. Spend your time on something constructive.

 

[syonidv]

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

How big of you.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

Presuming it's how I got my kicks, my prerequisite for trolling conspiracy theory threads would be certainty of the impossibility of the theories' suppositions, yes.

It's not "trolling" to demand that you guys back up your ridiculous theories with more than just "it's possible!".

The burden of proof lies on the positive claim. It's not up to us to prove your theories wrong, it's up to you to prove them right.

'If its not impossible it must be true' is some pretty weak tea.

Does the term 'likelihood' or 'probability' or 'snowball's chance in hell' mean anything to these guys?

Of course it does.

Show me anywhere in the discussion that "this absolutely must happen" is an overriding assumption.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Very interesting piece by Ray Starmann.


“Ah, you knew there’d be some dislocations. You can’t gear a country’s economy for war for 20 years, then suddenly slam on the brakes and expect the whole transition to go like grease through a goose. Doesn’t work out like that. And think how the whole psychology of the thing’s been screwed up from the outset.” – Senator Raymond Clark, Seven Days in May

In his farewell address on January 17, 1961, President Eisenhower warned the nation about a future threat to its liberty from the military-industrial complex. “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.”

Flash forward to March of 2015 and the leak of a U.S. Army brief concerning a gigantic Special Operations Exercise called Jade Helm 15, set to commence on July 15th and conclude on September 15th. Most significantly, one of the pages in the presentation contains a map of the Southwest, where the states of Texas and Utah and several Republican counties in Southern California are labelled as ‘hostile.’

At first the military denied the briefing was real. But, pressure by the media caused them to admit that for the first time, US military units will be operating in ten states simultaneously, and mainly on private land and in American towns and cities. Special Operations troops will be practicing all of the things they do well; airborne insertions, raids, direct action missions and counter-guerilla operations...

Read More:
Seven Days In September The Truth About Jade Helm The Daily Caller

You obviously didn't get the memo. You're supposed to wear your tin foil with the shiny side OUT.

I didn't write the article. And of course you didn't read it. Because you're a lame predictable little twat.

Yet you posted it with an obvious interest.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

This, along with the media and the government agitating riots. . . .

Then they will sink the dollar.

It is only a matter of time.

Tick tock. Tick tock.

You can't blame them for wanting to practice and get prepared. New Orleans and Boston were good practice and dry runs, but when the SHTF, it will be more wide spread. Thus they have a the need for a larger dry run operational out look.

Just like they had an economic crash right before there was an administrative handover at the end of the Bush term, I imagine we will see an economic crash toward the end of the Obama regime. This either gives them the option of emergency executive action, or pretty much sweeping in their choice of candidate, along with creating emergency issues at the end of this regime. Next up, look for the replacement of the dollar with an international currency of exchange, or maybe just the replacement of currency with international electronic tender based on debt all together. Either way though, martial law always needs to be an option.

Civil discontent will be triggered by the establishment, it won't be organic. Who has time to riot when they are going to their kids school play or at home watching the Super Bowl? lol

It is very telling that they lied about it at first. Only when forced by a court, did t
hey admit to the plans.

No. It will be telling if it happens and if it doesn't, it will be telling of your state of being.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

Anyone who believes any of this conspiracy tripe is inviting people to enjoy it for the sadistic pleasure of it.

How big of you.

It doesn't bother me at all. There will be no martial law. Liberals will see to that. I'm not compelled to ridicule. I'm here to ridicule. You deserve said ridicule. Gullible people need to be ridiculed.

An economic collapse? That is always a possibility. But....it sure as fuck is not predictable. It isn't....as you claim...inevitable. Ya big dummy.

Get a life. One based in reality.

Uh huh.

So martial law isn't possible because of 'liberals'. An economic collapse is 'always a possibility', but unpredictable a priori for reasons you can't specify. Your surety that nothing adverse can/will happen rests on your rock-solid assessment of "What? Me Worry?", and you're trolling this thread for the sheer sadistic pleasure of it.

I guess that's something.

So you're saying that your threshold of belief is that it's not impossible?

It's possible that a previously undiscovered asteroid could wipe out all life on the planet in 45 minutes.

Presuming it's how I got my kicks, my prerequisite for trolling conspiracy theory threads would be certainty of the impossibility of the theories' suppositions, yes.

It's not "trolling" to demand that you guys back up your ridiculous theories with more than just "it's possible!".

The burden of proof lies on the positive claim. It's not up to us to prove your theories wrong, it's up to you to prove them right.

The point of the thread isn't to prove the theory, it's to call attention to the Jade Helm exercise in the context of the theory. If a threat fails to materialize, the OP moves on. If relevant new developments become known, the OP adds them to corpus of evidence and systematically builds a case.

That's what the skeptical cohort in this thread doesn't get. Conspiracy theories are exercises in open-minded "blue sky" hypotheses. They aren't presented as rigorous atomic theories, nor are they intended to be.

The difference between legitimate criticism and trolling is the quality of the counterarguments. Legitimate criticism avoids ad hominems, attacks specific contentions, and acknowledges the limited scope and fungible nature of the theory. Trolling is a bunch of gradeschool boys assailing an implausible theory with cheap jokes because they recognize the implausibility but they don't comprehend the nature of the exercise.

In short, you're missing the point and wasting your time. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Some posters are outright bullying, hiding behind the same old tired excuses that the OP 'deserves it'.

If the theory doesn't interest you, get out of the thread. Find something that does. Spend your time on something constructive.

A nice corner of an empty WalMart interests me.

If this doesn't happen, it doesn't add to anything. It was wrong!
How you believe it adds to evidence when it wasn't real in the first place is beyond me.