Seriously, I can't support israel anymore

[The Sage of Main Street]

I don’t think Israel cares who wins the presidential election, because the top candidates all support Israel unconditionally.

Keep Up Your Muzziphilia, Because I Want You to Burn Down the DNC

 

[RetiredGySgt]

That's just it, Iran has struck inside Israel. That's the reason why there is a discussion.

The theory is that Iran now has the weapons and the ability to strike within the Zionist regime with impunity. They're saying that Russia has gifted Iran, one of their Brics partners, with superior weapons that can't be stopped.

So now it's up to you to show them that it's not true?

And not only that sarge, they're saying that America's aircraft carriers could be sitting ducks! Go figure?

300 missiles fired and only 5 landed anywhere in Israel. Ya tell us again how powerful Iran is when Israel assassinates their allies in the Iranian capital protected by Iran.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

These antisemitic leftists are completely deranged.

Looking Good for Pali Pals Invading and Trashing the DNC

 

[Man With A Plan]

Seriously, I can't support Israel anymore if they're going to attack other nations and pull us into more fucking wars. This little nation needs to realize it isn't America's job to defend it as they go around violating international law and attacking their much bigger neighbors.

Israel needs a two state solution now or it needs to integrate the people completely into its society. Period. If they're not willing to do either then we need to end the experiment and offer the jewish of israel people full citizenship here in America. We can't ignore the reality that islamic people that control this part of the world won't ever back down if they don't treat people with decency and respect.

Wait a minute...you're a gay woman who says that Israel needs to treat people with "decency and respect"? Seriously, Jessica? You do realize that those Islamic people are throwing gay people off of roof tops in the areas that they control? You might want to give this a bit more thought...just saying...

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I don’t think Israel cares who wins the presidential election, because the top candidates all support Israel unconditionally.

Yes that's true, there is strong support across both parties and there always has been. My concern is that support for Israel will get used as part of the election rhetoric.

The side that's portrayed as "less" supportive will get heavily attacked for that by the other party and used to inflame evangelicals and the various other nutcase groups we have here in the US.

Israel can exploit that, it can pressure say the Democrats to agree to something else the lobbying will turn on them, you know what happened to Corbyn, someone took a dislike to his views, called him an "antisemite" and his career came to an end.

That wasn't local UK party politics either, that came right from Tel-Aviv.

I think you’re right that Israel will commit even greater atrocities and war crimes before the election.

The hypocrisy of the Zionist regime is astounding. They use the Holocaust to silence any criticism, while committing a holocaust.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

300 missiles fired and only 5 landed anywhere in Israel. Ya tell us again how powerful Iran is when Israel assassinates their allies in the Iranian capital protected by Iran.

Most of the shot down missiles were shot down by the United States, Israel is a third world throwback nation, it only exists because the US finds it useful.

The extent of the U.S. military operation is unbeknownst to the American public, but the Pentagon coordinated a multination, regionwide defense extending from northern Iraq to the southern Persian Gulf on Saturday. During the operation, the U.S., U.K., France, and Jordan all shot down the majority of Iranian drones and missiles. In fact, where U.S. aircraft originated from has not been officially announced, an omission that has been repeated by the mainstream media. Additionally, the role of Saudi Arabia is unclear, both as a base for the United States and in terms of any actions by the Saudi military.

In calculating the size of Iran’s attack and the overwhelming role of the United States, U.S. military sources say that the preliminary estimate is that half of Iran’s weapons experienced technical failures of some sort.

“U.S. intelligence estimates that half of the weapons fired by Iran failed upon launch or in flight due to technical issues,” a U.S. Air Force senior officer told The Intercept. Of the remaining 160 or so, the U.S. shot down the majority, the officer said. The officer was granted anonymity to speak about sensitive operational matters.

 

[gipper]

Yes that's true, there is strong support across both parties and there always has been. My concern is that support for Israel will get used as part of the election rhetoric.

The side that's portrayed as "less" supportive will get heavily attacked for that by the other party and used to inflame evangelicals and the various other nutcase groups we have here in the US.

Israel can exploit that, it can pressure say the Democrats to agree to something else the lobbying will turn on them, you know what happened to Corbyn, someone took a dislike to his views, called him an "antisemite" and his career came to an end.

That wasn't local UK party politics either, that came right from Tel-Aviv.

Agreed. I believe Don has criticized Joe and Kamala for not being supportive enough of Israel. It’s crazy!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Most of the shot down missiles were shot down by the United States, Israel is a third world throwback nation, it only exists because the US finds it useful.

sure thing retard.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Agreed. I believe Don has criticized Joe and Kamala for not being supportive enough of Israel. It’s crazy!

It's insane here, has been since 2016. Trump has already publicly declared that Chuck Schumer (A Jew) is actually an antisemite and Hamas supporter, unreal is what this is.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It's insane here, has been since 2016. Trump has already publicly declared that Chuck Schumer (A Jew) is actually an antisemite and Hamas supporter, unreal is what this is.

The democrats in Congress have attacked Israel a lot since Oct 7 and they totally fail to punish active antisemite members

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The democrats in Congress have attacked Israel a lot since Oct 7 and they totally fail to punish active antisemite members

Sure thing, retard.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

The funny thing is, most, if not all, the countries in the Middle East probably secretly are hoping Israel kicks Iran's arse.

I wouldn’t say secretly. It’s wide open public knowledge that Israel and a number of Middle Eastern countries are now allies. Some of these alliances have occurred for decades. But only recently have they been strengthened even more.

Plus the Israel- Arab rivalry hails in comparison to that of the Arab Persian rivalry. Recall the Iraq Iran war where ironically Israel supported Iran and both Iran/israel probably regrets that today. Israel helped Iran bomb an Iraqi nuclear facility in the 1980s. At the time this so-called Islamic Republic of Iran was brand new, Israel probably felt Iraq was a bigger threat. Iran Leaders being the con artist they are gladly took the assistance from Israel.

But that Iran Iraq war was brutally violent hundreds of thousands of people died. It was much more violent than any of the conflicts that Israel and the Arab countries have been involved in all put together.

 

[gipper]

It's insane here, has been since 2016. Trump has already publicly declared that Chuck Schumer (A Jew) is actually an antisemite and Hamas supporter, unreal is what this is.

Yeah it’s like who can suck up more to the Zionist apartheid regime. It’s disgusting.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Fuck off Israel

 

[Donald H]

Most of the shot down missiles were shot down by the United States, Israel is a third world throwback nation, it only exists because the US finds it useful.

In fact, Iran proved a point with missiles that they didn't intend to be shot down. That's the reason for all the uncertainty by the Zionists and America.

The Zionists appreciate the fact that they have nothing capable of defending their country.

There are negotiations taking place as we speak, to determine the level of violence Iran will bring on them. It will still be a balanced reply this time at least.

 

[GMCGeneral]

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Fuck off Israel

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Israel has every right to exist
And if it means putting Arab dogs down, then so be it.

 

[gipper]

Israel has every right to exist
And if it means putting Arab dogs down, then so be it.

Idiot. No one denies Israel’s right to exist, including the Palestinians. Why must you Zionist’s be so dishonest?

 

[Matted Joybeard]

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Idiot. No one denies Israel’s right to exist, including the Palestinians. Why must you Zionist’s be so dishonest?

I have to say gipper, now, after months of intensive studying and investigating I'm beginning to change my view, beginning to understand the apparent intolerance we hear from leadership in various parts of the Middle East.

Frankly the Israel that we see today, should not exist, the territory should never have been partitioned and an unelected Jewish government that represented the minority forcibly imposed upon the gentile majority, particularly given the state of distrust and hostility that was prevalent back then after years of British fiddling around with Zionism and the Jew supremacist nature of militant Zionism, which is nothing more than nationalism.

The former colonial powers should have played no role in this, partitioning of land, installing a government comprised of foreign, European immigrants, imposing the minority will over the majority, this is the real cause of the ills out there, it can be traced right back to the British and their brazen betrayal of the Arab clans after the Ottomans were routed.

Today "supporting Israel" is polishing a turd, it is unsustainable, it is doomed to fail catastrophically. What I mean by this is very simple - nothing can "fix" the situation, nothing can right the many wrongs, no effort be it diplomatic or military can improve the plight of the people.

The Arabs said all this at the time, they tried to explain that this was unworkable and that's why they refused to accept the partition plan, but they were ignored, pushed aside yet today it's clear again, I can see what they foresaw, not just Arabs many Jews too warned that this was a disastrous plan.

The British were experts at colonization as you know, so its natural I suppose, that they wanted to solve the whole Palestine mandate problem using the tools they knew best, which was colonialism not democracy.

Here's an extremely important document Cablegram from the Secretary-General of the League of Arab States to the Secretary-General of the United Nations. from May 1948.

Everyone with an interest in the history of all this should read that document several times, it provides a great deal of context, for example:

9. When the General Assembly made its recommendations on 29 November 1947 for the solution of the Palestine problem on the basis of partition providing for the establishment of two States, one Arab and one Jewish, with an international regime of trusteeship for the City of Jerusalem, the Arab States expressed the warning that such a solution was prejudicial to the rights of the Arab inhabitants of Palestine to independence and was contradictory to democratic principles and to the League of Nations as well as the United Nations Charter. The Arabs then rejected such a scheme declaring that it was not susceptible of execution by peaceful means and that its imposition by force constituted a threat to peace and security in this area.

and

The Arab States recognize that the independence and sovereignty of Palestine which was so far subject to the British Mandate has now, with the termination of the Mandate, become established in fact, and maintain that the lawful inhabitants of Palestine are alone competent and entitled to set up an administration in Palestine for the discharge of all governmental functions without any external interference.

 

[Mac-7]

In fact, Iran proved a point with missiles that they didn't intend to be shot down. That's the reason for all the uncertainty by the Zionists and America.

The Zionists appreciate the fact that they have nothing capable of defending their country.

There are negotiations taking place as we speak, to determine the level of violence Iran will bring on them. It will still be a balanced reply this time at least.

I think Israel is far from drfenseless

They cannot stop all the iranian missiles so some people will die

But the Israeli air force will ravage Iran even without going nuclear