Second pilot rescued!!!!!

[georgephillip]

Also a dead US soldier was found in the wreckage of a C-130 - due to that firefight that had erupted at the landing site - which would indicate/proof that not the US forces blew up the C-130's and MH-6M helicopters. But Iranian ground forces.

This would match Iranian reports claiming that they foiled a US plan - that was not related to the WSO rescue.

That sounds plausible to me.
I'm old enough to remember Carter's Operation Eagle Claw in April of 1980.

If I'm remembering correctly, it took decades for Americans to learn the full extent of their government's failure in that episode.

I suspect the Internet has made it far more difficult for those who profit from wars of aggression to cover up their many crimes/failures?

 

[Kruska]

That sounds plausible to me.
I'm old enough to remember Carter's Operation Eagle Claw in April of 1980.

If I'm remembering correctly, it took decades for Americans to learn the full extent of their government's failure in that episode.

I suspect the Internet has made it far more difficult for those who profit from wars of aggression to cover up their many crimes/failures?

Yes I fully agree - the internet has been a great help to track down misleading or false information's, whilst at the same time is providing ample food - for those using/living off spreading false information, to their own benefit and agenda e.g. TACO and friends.

 

[georgephillip]

Yes I fully agree - the internet has been a great help to track down misleading or false information's, whilst at the same time is providing ample food - for those using/living off spreading false information, to their own benefit and agenda e.g. TACO and friends.

I suspect 92 million Iranians have a newly discovered vested interest in building (or buying) nuclear weapons since Trump has 3 years left to destroy their civilization.

Yesterday Malcolm Nance predicted Iran may attempt to buy five nuclear weapons from North Korea.

Almost forgotten at this point is how close negotiators were to finding a peace deal last February:

The US-Israeli War on Iran Is Incentivizing Nuclear Proliferation

"One day before Israel and the U.S. began bombing Iran on February 28, CBS News reported that Oman’s foreign minister, Sayyid Badr Albusaidi said a peace deal was 'within our reach if we just allow diplomacy the space it needs to get there.'

"Further technical meetings, which had been scheduled for the following Monday, never took place because the war was launched two days prior."

 

[Kruska]

I suspect 92 million Iranians have a newly discovered vested interest in building (or buying) nuclear weapons since Trump has 3 years left to destroy their civilization.

For sure.

Yesterday Malcolm Nance predicted Iran may attempt to buy five nuclear weapons from North Korea.

IMO, latest in June 2025 - Iran worked out way's of obtaining nuclear weapons from several sources. In case the USA and Israel would attack them again.

Almost forgotten at this point is how close negotiators were to finding a peace deal last February:

The US-Israeli War on Iran Is Incentivizing Nuclear Proliferation

"One day before Israel and the U.S. began bombing Iran on February 28, CBS News reported that Oman’s foreign minister, Sayyid Badr Albusaidi said a peace deal was 'within our reach if we just allow diplomacy the space it needs to get there.'

"Further technical meetings, which had been scheduled for the following Monday, never took place because the war was launched two days prior."

Yes - and this raises the question as to why Israel and the USA attacked Iran. Just to make money TACO could have had it far easier then to actually attack Iran. Israel on the other hand can't pursue it's "Greater Israel" with Iran maintaining it's proxies and missile capabilities. And certainly not with Iran on the way to acquire nuclear warheads.

So Iran needs to be intimidated or factually weakened considerably. Israel was the main player (aside from that German "fantasy" intel report - where MOSSAD involvement is highly suspected) in getting the USA to attack Iraq. So if WMD's had worked one time - why not give it another shot? And as abstruse as it may sounds, in order for TACO to get his Gaza Riviera going - he needs the IDF to do the dirty ground work for him.

Both seemed to have actually believed that upon decisive strikes onto the Iranian political and military leadership - Iran would cave in. Strongly supported by the fact that Iran's intel services and government institutions were worse then a Swiss cheese, so that Mossad and the CIA had their ears, eyes and even active support in the highest levels of the Iranian government.

What helped Iran to survive that first wipe out-phase could have very well been - as you had already pointed out - their decentralized military command structure. Something the USA and Israel had clearly underestimated or not fully recognized.

And thus TACO got himself into a hell of a jam - with Bibi blocking and sabotaging any "diplomatic" way out for him, other than in disgrace and humiliation. Since he is a narcissistic prick ..............who knows.....?

 

[citygator]

The operation had nothing to do with pilot rescue. It was a total failed operation. This is Jimmy Carter stuff.

I have no idea if this is accurate but the results are what actually happened.