Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed the 'Five-Dollar Footlong'

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Has anybody been to seattle international airport recently? Straight up touch screen kiosks to order, no orders being taken by people. S'like oh my god, didn't see that one coming hahaha. Only a matter of time till most fast food places can be operated by a single person...

We have McDonald's here in KC that have kiosks only for ordering now. Lefties can't kill our kids jobs fast enough with their asinine demands.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

 

[Thinker101]

Has anybody been to seattle international airport recently? Straight up touch screen kiosks to order, no orders being taken by people. S'like oh my god, didn't see that one coming hahaha. Only a matter of time till most fast food places can be operated by a single person...

We have McDonald's here in KC that have kiosks only for ordering now. Lefties can't kill our kids jobs fast enough with their asinine demands.

Wonder if any of those robots are making $15/hour.

 

[Montrovant]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that automation, such as the self order kiosks at McDonald's, was coming regardless of minimum wage hikes.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that automation, such as the self order kiosks at McDonald's, was coming regardless of minimum wage hikes.

The hikes are the very reason they were ushered in.

 

[Montrovant]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that automation, such as the self order kiosks at McDonald's, was coming regardless of minimum wage hikes.

The hikes are the very reason they were ushered in.

The hikes might be why they were ushered in now, but do you really think that, without a wage hike, they would never have been used?

 

[Lewdog]

Regressives continue to insist that hiking up the minimum wage to an artificial, arbitrary base, uprooting market forces doesn't have an affect on prices or an impact on jobs and reality continues to prove them wrong over and over again.

The sandwich chain recently resurrected the promotion in a national advertising campaign promising foot-long subs for just $4.99—but the special deal won't fly at one Subway restaurant in Seattle, where owner David Jones posted a sign this week giving customers the bad news.

Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed the 'Five-Dollar Footlong'

The biggest cost driver, as Jones' sign mentions, is Seattle's highest-in-the-nation minimum wage. It went from $9.47 to $11 per hour in 2015, then to $13 per hour in 2016, with a further increase to $15 per hour planned.

The result? According to researchers at the University of Washington's School of Public Policy and Governance, the number of hours worked in low-wage jobs has declined by around 9 percent since the start of 2016 "while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent." The net outcome: In 2016, the "higher" minimum wage actually lowered low-wage workers' earnings by an average of $125 a month.

Regressive tards will never get it through their heads that you can't draw blood from a stone.

The $5 Footlong died a LONG time ago, and not just in Seattle. Hell I don't think the $5 footlong has been out since the stuff with Jared molesting kids.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

spycraft is living proof that math is hard for leftists

Is it now? What math are you referring to? Was there some math you have that proves your side of the debate?

Umm, all of the failures of socialism. Documented, we know what happened, why it happened and the results.

 

[Windparadox]

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Considering that at least in the cities, you get incompetent help at $10.00/hr, I just don't see paying those same people $15.00/hr is going to change that. A good chain store up by me, west of Green Bay, is "Menards". At least they have polite people that can actually help you. Like asking where something is. Instead of just pointing, they take you there personally. No one is ever too busy talking to their friends, to help you.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Regressives continue to insist that hiking up the minimum wage to an artificial, arbitrary base, uprooting market forces doesn't have an affect on prices or an impact on jobs and reality continues to prove them wrong over and over again.

The sandwich chain recently resurrected the promotion in a national advertising campaign promising foot-long subs for just $4.99—but the special deal won't fly at one Subway restaurant in Seattle, where owner David Jones posted a sign this week giving customers the bad news.

Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed the 'Five-Dollar Footlong'

The biggest cost driver, as Jones' sign mentions, is Seattle's highest-in-the-nation minimum wage. It went from $9.47 to $11 per hour in 2015, then to $13 per hour in 2016, with a further increase to $15 per hour planned.

The result? According to researchers at the University of Washington's School of Public Policy and Governance, the number of hours worked in low-wage jobs has declined by around 9 percent since the start of 2016 "while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent." The net outcome: In 2016, the "higher" minimum wage actually lowered low-wage workers' earnings by an average of $125 a month.

Regressive tards will never get it through their heads that you can't draw blood from a stone.

The $5 Footlong died a LONG time ago, and not just in Seattle. Hell I don't think the $5 footlong has been out since the stuff with Jared molesting kids.

Nonsense. It's out right now in KC

 

[jknowgood]

Regressives continue to insist that hiking up the minimum wage to an artificial, arbitrary base, uprooting market forces doesn't have an affect on prices or an impact on jobs and reality continues to prove them wrong over and over again.

The sandwich chain recently resurrected the promotion in a national advertising campaign promising foot-long subs for just $4.99—but the special deal won't fly at one Subway restaurant in Seattle, where owner David Jones posted a sign this week giving customers the bad news.

Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed the 'Five-Dollar Footlong'

The biggest cost driver, as Jones' sign mentions, is Seattle's highest-in-the-nation minimum wage. It went from $9.47 to $11 per hour in 2015, then to $13 per hour in 2016, with a further increase to $15 per hour planned.

The result? According to researchers at the University of Washington's School of Public Policy and Governance, the number of hours worked in low-wage jobs has declined by around 9 percent since the start of 2016 "while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent." The net outcome: In 2016, the "higher" minimum wage actually lowered low-wage workers' earnings by an average of $125 a month.

Regressive tards will never get it through their heads that you can't draw blood from a stone.

I'm not defending the Seattle minimum wage, but do you disagree with minimum wage in general? If not, what do you think should govern where it is set?

market value.

fast food is not a skill position. it's manual labor and not worth the $$$. these positions will be automated and then done away with for people to even have it as an option. then what?

what you can do skillswise will determine what you should be able to make in life. not that you exist, squirted out 6 kids and need to feed them.

Automation aside.

Are you insinuating that an employee is always paid the value of what they produce? If so then why have a labor market at all? (You know, competitive labor markets that drive down the wages due to competition for landing a scarcity in this case, a job).

Okay let me try,
When you are a teenager starting out, with no experience. You deserve a lower wage. Okay with experience, you get more money. If you take it further and go to school to learn to cook better. You get more money, if you stick it out and become a chef, you make a lot more money, and so one. Get it?

 

[Lewdog]

Regressives continue to insist that hiking up the minimum wage to an artificial, arbitrary base, uprooting market forces doesn't have an affect on prices or an impact on jobs and reality continues to prove them wrong over and over again.

The sandwich chain recently resurrected the promotion in a national advertising campaign promising foot-long subs for just $4.99—but the special deal won't fly at one Subway restaurant in Seattle, where owner David Jones posted a sign this week giving customers the bad news.

Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed the 'Five-Dollar Footlong'

The biggest cost driver, as Jones' sign mentions, is Seattle's highest-in-the-nation minimum wage. It went from $9.47 to $11 per hour in 2015, then to $13 per hour in 2016, with a further increase to $15 per hour planned.

The result? According to researchers at the University of Washington's School of Public Policy and Governance, the number of hours worked in low-wage jobs has declined by around 9 percent since the start of 2016 "while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent." The net outcome: In 2016, the "higher" minimum wage actually lowered low-wage workers' earnings by an average of $125 a month.

Regressive tards will never get it through their heads that you can't draw blood from a stone.

The $5 Footlong died a LONG time ago, and not just in Seattle. Hell I don't think the $5 footlong has been out since the stuff with Jared molesting kids.

Nonsense. It's out right now in KC

$5 footlongs? Minimum Wage here in KY is the bare minimum to meet the federal law, and we haven't had it in YEARS.

"However, the price increased 20% to $6 in 2014 and subsequently the price was raised to $7 in 2017."

Subway $5 footlong promotion - Wikipedia

 

[iceberg]

market value.

fast food is not a skill position. it's manual labor and not worth the $$$. these positions will be automated and then done away with for people to even have it as an option. then what?

what you can do skillswise will determine what you should be able to make in life. not that you exist, squirted out 6 kids and need to feed them.

Automation aside.

Are you insinuating that an employee is always paid the value of what they produce? If so then why have a labor market at all? (You know, competitive labor markets that drive down the wages due to competition for landing a scarcity in this case, a job).

they're paid the value of what their employer can afford to pay that position to still make money for themselves and their business.

if i have a small business and need someone to run a cash register on saturdays and sundays for a total of 16 hours and the business i bring in during that time would mean i can only afford to pay someone $8 an hour to sit and watch the store, what are my options if i now must double their pay because i dared to hire anyone at all?

That's not true.

I suggest you learn what a "labor market" is.

An employer shops in a labor market for the lowest wages possible, laborers in that market lower the wages as much as each can tolerate in a bidding-contest for that job.

This balancing act can overly-favor the employer if they have a large pool and political power.

great. then answer my question that as a small business owner and this is all i can afford to pay someone to manage say my book store on the weekends, you're giving me no option other than $15 an hour. you're reaching to punish the man and great. you do that. but that isn't my focus - this hammering on the business owners cause they all happen to be greedy or something.

Then you'd only be able to afford to hire someone who will settle for the amount you can afford.

But you're overlooking that when wages go up, people spend more, so you'll be able to charge more for that soda.

There's an optimum where wages go up, raising consumption activity level, thereby offsetting any potential inflation and any potential loss of employment.

And you miss the point that if I raise my prices to match what I have to pay employees, next up $15 an hour isn't good enough anymore. It's like you only see half of this circle.

 

[dcbl]

Trump went to the best schools. So here's a paper from one of the best schools about what an idiot you are.

http://www.princeton.edu/~davidlee/wp/lee-saez11optminwage_jpubeR2.pdf

Every time the minimum wage goes up, people lose jobs

especially black teenagers looking for part-time work

why do progressives want to take opportunities away from poor black children?

 

[dcbl]

And you miss the point that if I raise my prices to match what I have to pay employees, next up $15 an hour isn't good enough anymore. It's like you only see half of this circle.

and it definitely devalues key employees

why should a kid that pours a cup of coffee make as much as a Marine?

 

[iceberg]

And you miss the point that if I raise my prices to match what I have to pay employees, next up $15 an hour isn't good enough anymore. It's like you only see half of this circle.

and it definitely devalues key employees

why should a kid that pours a cup of coffee make as much as a Marine?

Or an emt.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Regressives continue to insist that hiking up the minimum wage to an artificial, arbitrary base, uprooting market forces doesn't have an affect on prices or an impact on jobs and reality continues to prove them wrong over and over again.

The sandwich chain recently resurrected the promotion in a national advertising campaign promising foot-long subs for just $4.99—but the special deal won't fly at one Subway restaurant in Seattle, where owner David Jones posted a sign this week giving customers the bad news.

Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed the 'Five-Dollar Footlong'

The biggest cost driver, as Jones' sign mentions, is Seattle's highest-in-the-nation minimum wage. It went from $9.47 to $11 per hour in 2015, then to $13 per hour in 2016, with a further increase to $15 per hour planned.

The result? According to researchers at the University of Washington's School of Public Policy and Governance, the number of hours worked in low-wage jobs has declined by around 9 percent since the start of 2016 "while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent." The net outcome: In 2016, the "higher" minimum wage actually lowered low-wage workers' earnings by an average of $125 a month.

Regressive tards will never get it through their heads that you can't draw blood from a stone.

The $5 Footlong died a LONG time ago, and not just in Seattle. Hell I don't think the $5 footlong has been out since the stuff with Jared molesting kids.

Nonsense. It's out right now in KC

$5 footlongs? Minimum Wage here in KY is the bare minimum to meet the federal law, and we haven't had it in YEARS.

"However, the price increased 20% to $6 in 2014 and subsequently the price was raised to $7 in 2017."

Subway $5 footlong promotion - Wikipedia

Yes, I just had it yesterday. Black Forest Ham on Herb & Cheese bread with provolone, lettuce, onions, black olives & Chipotle

 

[Lewdog]

Regressives continue to insist that hiking up the minimum wage to an artificial, arbitrary base, uprooting market forces doesn't have an affect on prices or an impact on jobs and reality continues to prove them wrong over and over again.

The sandwich chain recently resurrected the promotion in a national advertising campaign promising foot-long subs for just $4.99—but the special deal won't fly at one Subway restaurant in Seattle, where owner David Jones posted a sign this week giving customers the bad news.

Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed the 'Five-Dollar Footlong'

The biggest cost driver, as Jones' sign mentions, is Seattle's highest-in-the-nation minimum wage. It went from $9.47 to $11 per hour in 2015, then to $13 per hour in 2016, with a further increase to $15 per hour planned.

The result? According to researchers at the University of Washington's School of Public Policy and Governance, the number of hours worked in low-wage jobs has declined by around 9 percent since the start of 2016 "while hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent." The net outcome: In 2016, the "higher" minimum wage actually lowered low-wage workers' earnings by an average of $125 a month.

Regressive tards will never get it through their heads that you can't draw blood from a stone.

The $5 Footlong died a LONG time ago, and not just in Seattle. Hell I don't think the $5 footlong has been out since the stuff with Jared molesting kids.

Nonsense. It's out right now in KC

$5 footlongs? Minimum Wage here in KY is the bare minimum to meet the federal law, and we haven't had it in YEARS.

"However, the price increased 20% to $6 in 2014 and subsequently the price was raised to $7 in 2017."

Subway $5 footlong promotion - Wikipedia

Yes, I just had it yesterday. Black Forest Ham on Herb & Cheese bread with provolone, lettuce, onions, black olives & Chipotle

Subway's $5 Footlong Deal Is Now Over

Subway has killed the $5 footlong

I think there is a disconnect here. You aren't talking about the same promotion. $5 footlongs was for almost ANY sub on the menu, not just 5 different ones.

 

[Spycraft]

If it's a nationwide policy than a city's minimum wage had nothing to do with it.

 

[Spycraft]

And you miss the point that if I raise my prices to match what I have to pay employees, next up $15 an hour isn't good enough anymore. It's like you only see half of this circle.

and it definitely devalues key employees

why should a kid that pours a cup of coffee make as much as a Marine?

Or an emt.

EMT is "Basic Life Support" trained and that takes only 1 semester of a 6 credit class at any community college. Once passing the National Registry Exam you are qualified to work as an EMT in most states.

Why should they be paid more than a burger flipper?