Sea birds struggling from loss of Arctic ice

[CrusaderFrank]

Where's that apology Frank? The lead story obviously wasn't "fake news" as you charged. Or are you okay with lying?

It was clearly prima facia fake news, in fact, Fake News. 20 birds didnt return to one nesting site -- therefore, man made global warming??

Really??

How is this even remotely related to science??

 

[Weatherman2020]

Has anyone ever heard of a bird laying eggs on ice

Walrus, polar bears, harp, hooded and ring seals aren't the only species negatively impacted by the shrinking Arctic ice.

Seabird colonies are struggling as winter sea ice levels hover near record lows

From your link:

"The Cooper Island colony wouldn't be there at all if it weren't for Divoky. Cooper Island is flat, unlike the tall cliffs and rocky slopes where Mandt's black guillemots usually nest. But while surveying the Island for the Smithsonian Institution in 1972, Divoky found a few guillemots nesting beneath crates and pieces of wood left by the U.S. Navy in the 1950s. He turned over some more pieces of debris to make new nesting cavities, and guillemots immediately moved into them."

So he has been screwing up the environment, creating fake nests, a fake colony, and creating a fake habitat. Then he whines that his fake habitat is a flop.

I suspect there are a LOT of things you've never heard of. Why don't you take this opportunity to actually learn something you didn't know? Read this.

Survival and Breeding Response of a Sea-ice Obligate Seabird Following the Unprecedented Low Extent of Winter Ice in the Bering Sea

Creating fake nests then whining about Gorebal Warming when birds don’t use your fake nests is about as scientific as you will ever get.

 

[Crick]

As seems to be a common practice among deniers, you don't know what the **** you're talking about. Read

Survival and Breeding Response of a Sea-ice Obligate Seabird Following the Unprecedented Low Extent of Winter Ice in the Bering Sea

 

[jc456]

Downsize what?

PS: by expressing a concern for the "white race" you declare yourself a racist. But then, you probably already heard that.

 

[Crick]

Your emoticon will be laughing long after you've come to regret having posted evidence of your own bigotry

 

[SSDD]

Walrus, polar bears, harp, hooded and ring seals aren't the only species negatively impacted by the shrinking Arctic ice.

Seabird colonies are struggling as winter sea ice levels hover near record lows

^ Fake news

Prove it Frank.

Seabirds Abandon Eggs After Winter Without Ice

Survival and Breeding Response of a Sea-ice Obligate Seabird Following the Unprecedented Low Extent of Winter Ice in the Bering Sea

I've posted temperatures across 1.4 MILLION SQUARE MILES of the Arctic and they're always -F, except some areas near Greenland

How does ice melt at -22F??????

He is a dupe fooled by anomalies...

 

[harmonica]

I don't care--doesn't affect me

Then why reply?

cause I want to
let's time I looked this was a discussion forum....?

"Let's time you looked?" Perhaps you meant "last time you looked"

Alright, when would you care? What if it were wildlife in your neighborhood? What if it were your livestock? What if it were your family pets? What if it were humans?

I don't give a F*!!!!

, it is not all right to use alright in standard English.

Alright vs. All Right - Everything After Z by Dictionary.com
maybe you meant something else?

 

[Crick]

The exclamation points say something different.

 

[toobfreak]

Walrus, polar bears, harp, hooded and ring seals aren't the only species negatively impacted by the shrinking Arctic ice.

Seabird colonies are struggling as winter sea ice levels hover near record lows

I hear all of those make good eating. Bet we could feed the starving with them! As the Arctic thaws, lots of trees and plants will start to grown, better seasons, agriculture, tennis courts, condominiums, room for people to move to and use and before you know it, our first McDonalds.

 

[westwall]

Has anyone ever heard of a bird laying eggs on ice

Walrus, polar bears, harp, hooded and ring seals aren't the only species negatively impacted by the shrinking Arctic ice.

Seabird colonies are struggling as winter sea ice levels hover near record lows

From your link:

"The Cooper Island colony wouldn't be there at all if it weren't for Divoky. Cooper Island is flat, unlike the tall cliffs and rocky slopes where Mandt's black guillemots usually nest. But while surveying the Island for the Smithsonian Institution in 1972, Divoky found a few guillemots nesting beneath crates and pieces of wood left by the U.S. Navy in the 1950s. He turned over some more pieces of debris to make new nesting cavities, and guillemots immediately moved into them."

So he has been screwing up the environment, creating fake nests, a fake colony, and creating a fake habitat. Then he whines that his fake habitat is a flop.

Yeah, I noticed that too. It is an artificial colony, built up by a guy because he was too lazy to climb the cliffs where they normally breed. Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy. Then his new bird boxes were plastic instead of wood. Easier for him, but how much would you like to bet thebirds don't like the smell of plastic and find the echo incredibly annoying?

There are so many factors at play here and of course the anti science denier who posted this drivel hasn't a clue how to do real research. Here's a clue cricky.....this guys methods are the WRONG WAY!

 

[Manonthestreet]

I'm confident evolution will solve this.

 

[Crick]

The lot of you objecting to the artificial nature of this colony are ignoring the fact that the colony thrived until disappearing ice drove away the bird's primary prey species.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Arctic Weather Map

4 Cardinal points today

Barrow -6F
Eureka -28F
Vize 0F
Kotel -15F

that's over 1.4 Million square miles of real estate

How about the Bering Sea?

Gambell 16F
Bethel 18F
Cape Ozernoy -9F
Dillingham 18F

Melting point of ice is still 32F

 

[cnm]

Explain how atmospheric "warming" can heat the oceans down to 700m, but a surface temperature of -22F can make ice melt

Oh gawd, not this fuckwit again, who doesn't know sea water there will be around 32 °F and 90% of sea ice will be under water yet bloviates his ignorance at full volume.

 

[skookerasbil]

What is the point of this thread?

This kind of hysterical crap has been going on from alarmists for 25 years. Has had zero impact in anybody except the radical snowflakes of the world.

So what's the point?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Explain how atmospheric "warming" can heat the oceans down to 700m, but a surface temperature of -22F can make ice melt

Oh gawd, not this fuckwit again.

It's called debate. Do you have a response to the questions besides your pooh flinging monkey imitation?

 

[cnm]

Triple threat

The loss of ice also means that the surface water in this area is exchanging heat with the atmosphere and absorbing more sunlight during the long Arctic summer days. These two have combined to heat the top 100m of water dramatically. If the mean of its temperature from 1970-1999 is taken as a baseline, the temperatures from 2010-2016 are nearly four standard deviations higher. 2016—the most recent year we have validated data for—was 6.3 standard deviations higher.

This has the effect of heating the intermediate water from above. Meanwhile, the warm Atlantic water will heat it from below. As a result, the cold intermediate water has essentially vanished from the Barents Sea, turning the area into a basin dominated by Atlantic water. The entire water column, from surface to the sea floor, has both warmed and gotten saltier, all starting in the late-2000s.

While dramatic, that in and of itself doesn't make for a tipping point. But the authors argue that the present conditions make it extremely difficult for the sea ice to re-establish itself during the winter: "Increased Atlantic Water inflow has recently enlarged the area where sea ice cannot form, causing reductions in the sea-ice extent." The water both starts out warmer and has increased salt content, making freezing more difficult.

In essence, the authors argue that the entire Barents Sea has started to behave as an arm of the Atlantic. Unless some external factor re-establishes the layer of fresh water on the surface, "the entire region could soon have a warm and well-mixed water-column structure and be part of the Atlantic domain."
Barents Sea seems to have crossed a climate tipping point​

 

[cnm]

It's called debate.

No, it's called invincible ignorance.

 

[cnm]

There are three main types of water masses in the Barents Sea: Warm, salty Atlantic water (temperature >3 °C, [37.4 °F] salinity >35) from the North Atlantic drift, cold Arctic water (temperature <0 °C, [32.0 °F] salinity <35) from the north, and warm, but not very salty coastal water (temperature >3 °C, [37.4 °F] salinity <34.7).
Barents Sea - Wikipedia

Note for Crusader Frank. Sea water will not freeze at 0 °C, [32.0 °F]​

 

[SSDD]

Observation seems to disagree with your ice loss claims.. Of course, observations disagree with the entirety of climate science....and all their bogus predictions.