Schumer/Pelosi Using The Debt Ceiling In 2017 As Leverage To Negotiate

[Independent thinker]

I guess it was alright to do that in 2017. And, they expected the other side to negotiate. Finally, a deal was reached. So, what's wrong with Republicans following the Democratic playbook? Why are democrats claiming that you can't use the debt ceiling to negotiate spending when they just did it themselves a few years ago?

And, most importantly, why are democrats totally unwilling to even talk about spending cuts while our national debt soars over 31 TRILLION dollars? They absolutely refuse to cut any spending at all while painting Republicans as being the ones who can't control spending. They keep on asking Republicans for their plan on how to cut spending while refusing to even talk about cutting spending themselves. What's their plan to cut spending? They have none. Their plan is to not cut spending at all and just up the debt ceiling whenever we need to.

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[TroglocratsRdumb]

I guess it was alright to do that in 2017. And, they expected the other side to negotiate. Finally, a deal was reached. So, what's wrong with Republicans following the Democratic playbook? Why are democrats claiming that you can't use the debt ceiling to negotiate spending when they just did it themselves a few years ago?

And, most importantly, why are democrats totally unwilling to even talk about spending cuts while our national debt soars over 31 TRILLION dollars? They absolutely refuse to cut any spending at all while painting Republicans as being the ones who can't control spending. They keep on asking Republicans for their plan on how to cut spending while refusing to even talk about cutting spending themselves. What's their plan to cut spending? They have none. Their plan is to not cut spending at all and just up the debt ceiling whenever we need to.

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Democrat Voters are too stupid to understand that if the greedy corrupt Democrat Party bankrupts the government that THEY will suffer.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Dumb Left-Wing Voters are they type of Trashy People who live beyond their means to pay their debts, so they can't understand why the government can't do it also.
These Greedy Dem politicians such as Schumer and Pelosi treat the American Taxpayers like they are their Slaves who they can load and infinite amount of burden upon.
They are just like Credit Card thieves.

 

[BlindBoo]

Even as the leader of minority party Pelosi sure was a powerful negotiator huh?

"The administration spent months offering no clarity on whether it even wanted a simple increase in the debt ceiling. That emboldened the right flank of congressional Republicans, who don’t want to raise the ceiling without also cutting federal spending in the process.

Freedom Caucus members have no real leverage to force legislative changes, but if they won’t vote for what’s known as a “clean” debt ceiling increase — one that is not attached to spending cuts or any other bills — that puts some leverage in the hands of congressional Democrats, whose votes GOP leaders will be counting on to get an increase done.

Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have been hesitant to engage in the kind of irresponsible brinksmanship that they condemned Republicans for six years ago. But backbenchers in safe seats are feeling restive, and with the next item on the Trump legislative agenda being a large tax cut, it strikes many Democrats as perverse to be bailing out Republicans on providing additional borrowing authority — authority that Treasury says will be needed next month.

Welcome to debt ceiling drama, 2017."

The looming debt ceiling fight, explained

It’s probably going to be fine. But maybe not.

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[Independent thinker]

Democrat Voters are too stupid to understand that if the greedy corrupt Democrat Party bankrupts the government that THEY will suffer.

There is no will about it. Even as we speak their very own voters can't afford groceries, gas, and even rent because our debt has finally caught up to us in the form on high inflation. Democrat's response? We should bow down to Biden because inflation has fallen, even as we are now paying much more for everything than we had been before Biden.

 

[1srelluc]

If it will stop EBT payments and other federal relief for the "poor" then I'm all for it....Let's get this party started.

 

[candycorn]

I guess it was alright to do that in 2017. And, they expected the other side to negotiate. Finally, a deal was reached. So, what's wrong with Republicans following the Democratic playbook? Why are democrats claiming that you can't use the debt ceiling to negotiate spending when they just did it themselves a few years ago?

And, most importantly, why are democrats totally unwilling to even talk about spending cuts while our national debt soars over 31 TRILLION dollars? They absolutely refuse to cut any spending at all while painting Republicans as being the ones who can't control spending. They keep on asking Republicans for their plan on how to cut spending while refusing to even talk about cutting spending themselves. What's their plan to cut spending? They have none. Their plan is to not cut spending at all and just up the debt ceiling whenever we need to.

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Never happened.

 

[ColonelAngus]

No way……DEMOCRATS BEING HYPOCRITES?!

 

[ColonelAngus]

Dems do this all this time.

When they do it to Pubs, the Dems say, “POUND SAND!”

When Pubs do the EXACT SAME THING TO DEMS, DEMS SAY “THIS IS NOT FAIR!”

FUCK THEM

 

[Hum Dinger]

I guess it was alright to do that in 2017. And, they expected the other side to negotiate. Finally, a deal was reached. So, what's wrong with Republicans following the Democratic playbook? Why are democrats claiming that you can't use the debt ceiling to negotiate spending when they just did it themselves a few years ago?

And, most importantly, why are democrats totally unwilling to even talk about spending cuts while our national debt soars over 31 TRILLION dollars? They absolutely refuse to cut any spending at all while painting Republicans as being the ones who can't control spending. They keep on asking Republicans for their plan on how to cut spending while refusing to even talk about cutting spending themselves. What's their plan to cut spending? They have none. Their plan is to not cut spending at all and just up the debt ceiling whenever we need to.

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Biden is correct: You can't use the debt ceiling to force negotiations.

Unless there is an idiot in the White House. Then you can.

Don't blame the Dems if you put an idiot in the White House in 2016!

 

[Independent thinker]

Biden is correct: You can't use the debt ceiling to force negotiations.

Unless there is an idiot in the White House. Then you can.

Don't blame the Dems if you put an idiot in the White House in 2016!

What? We were talking about the fact that democrats refuse to even talk about cutting spending, debt ceiling or no debt ceiling. If they are willing to talk about cutting spending then why won't they do it? This whole thing should be very easy. But, they DON'T want to talk about cutting spending because they don't want to cut spending. If they did then there is no reason not to talk about it. They want Republicans to come up with a cut spending plan because there is no spending Democrats are willing to cut.

 

[Hum Dinger]

What? We were talking about the fact that democrats refuse to even talk about cutting spending, debt ceiling or no debt ceiling. If they are willing to talk about cutting spending then why won't they do it? This whole thing should be very easy. But, they DON'T want to talk about cutting spending because they don't want to cut spending. If they did then there is no reason not to talk about it. They want Republicans to come up with a cut spending plan because there is no spending Democrats are willing to cut.

You've been drinking the partisan Koolaid again!

If you don't think that the Republicans have as much pork spending as Democrats, you gotta be hallucinating.

Both parties want to cut each others pork, while not giving an inch on their own pork. Both parties have fought hard for the pork they have - and they're not about to give it up.

So why don't you worry about cutting the Republican pork? If McCarthy truly wanted to cut spending. he'd propose cutting the Republican pork - which the Democrats would undoubtedly agree to.

At least he could propose cutting some pork on both sides - but he won't because he loves the Republican pork!

 

[Independent thinker]

You've been drinking the partisan Koolaid again!

If you don't think that the Republicans have as much pork spending as Democrats, you gotta be hallucinating.

Both parties want to cut each others pork, while not giving an inch on their own pork. Both parties have fought hard for the pork they have - and they're not about to give it up.

So why don't you worry about cutting the Republican pork? If McCarthy truly wanted to cut spending. he'd propose cutting the Republican pork - which the Democrats would undoubtedly agree to.

At least he could propose cutting some pork on both sides - but he won't because he loves the Republican pork!

Show me where Democrats want to cut spending. Republicans are threatening to hold the debt ceiling hostage in order to get democrats to accept the cutting of some expenses. Democrats ask Republicans to show us the Republican's plan. But, you show me where Democrats are willing to cut spending. If they were then this issue would be moot. It's not moot because democrats don't want to cut any spending. So, prove to me where democrats are willing to cut spending.