School Staff JAILED for Not Reporting

[SweetSue92]

You thought you had a point? That's cute.

That you refuse to acknowledge and accept the answers that I and other conservatives have offered to your lies and madness, does not mean that we had no answers.

It's unclear to me, from the article, just who is responsible for passing the information on to whom, in the chain of command, but at some point, someone in that chain certainly had a duty to notify the appropriate authorities, and failed to do so in a timely manner.

I can see a dubious excuse for those lower in this hierarchy to figure that their duty just extends to passing the information up to their supervisors, and leaving it to someone above them to report it to the legal authorities.

At least one school official in this chain, if not all of them, fully deserves to go to jail.

THis was your first post in this thread. It says "report or to jail". Okay.

No one in the thread has been reasonably able to answer this question:

WHY, from a conservative, parents-rights POV, should this not have been reported to the parents with the expectations that THEY file the police report?

That's first.

Secondly, if you think that schools are expected to report sexual abuse that does not involve adults at home, and is essentially based on hearsay, does that also extend to other crimes, again without parental notification? Why not?

 

[SweetSue92]

GO
DO
SOMETHING
ELSE

I'm sorry you don't love the profession enough to call out what a raging forest fire it is right now. I figure you're about 10 years behind--I suspect because you're either not a teacher or you are in an, um, "unique" teaching situation.

Those of us who live in the real world are quite concerned and are allowed to talk about it. If you want to think it's because we "hate our job" go on flinging poo. Whatever.

 

[SweetSue92]

No one in the thread has been reasonably able to answer this question:

WHY, from a conservative, parents-rights POV, should this not have been reported to the parents with the expectations that THEY file the police report?

That's first.

Secondly, if you think that schools are expected to report sexual abuse that does not involve adults at home, and is essentially based on hearsay, does that also extend to other crimes, again without parental notification? Why not?

Bob? Do you assert that parents have primary rights and responsibility over their minor children?

Then why in this case particularly was this entire thing not passed to parents--and why most particularly are you not endorsing that?

 

[Winco]

I'm sorry you don't love the profession enough to call out what a raging forest fire it is right now. I figure you're about 10 years behind--I suspect because you're either not a teacher or you are in an, um, "unique" teaching situation.

Those of us who live in the real world are quite concerned and are allowed to talk about it. If you want to think it's because we "hate our job" go on flinging poo. Whatever.

I love my profession.
Math Teacher, Coach, Math Tutor.

But your constant bitching about your own Profession makes me ill.
You think education is a "raging forest fire" but you also think you are Smokey the Bear.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

WHY, from a conservative, parents-rights POV, should this not have been reported to the parents with the expectations that THEY file the police report?

Nobody said nor implied that the parents should not be notified.

But doing so does not relieve one of the duty to report such a crime to proper law-enforcement authorities.

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Your relentless refusal to acknowledge the answer does not make it go away.

 

[Mushroom]

Not a single conservative in this thread had an answer as to why the school should not have informed parents of this with the expectation that THEY file the police report.

What in the hell are you even going on about?

Hell, I think with you "Conservative" is simply the word you use for somebody you do not like or does not agree with you.

You really are just bouncing off the walls here.

 

[Mushroom]

This is not political beyond the fact that conservatives

And there you go once again. Holy hell, you can't even stick to the topic, and you are the one that raised it in the first place.

Honestly, I do not think you give a damn at all, you just want to attack "Conservatives".

 

[SweetSue92]

Nobody said nor implied that the parents should not be notified.

But doing so does not relieve one of the duty to report such a crime to proper law-enforcement authorities.

This has been answered over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over 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Your relentless refusal to acknowledge the answer does not make it go away.

In what post did you explain WHY, from a parents rights POV, it's okay to:

1. Monitor hearsay from teenagers and then
2. Report to police
3. Often without parental notification

WHY.

Not "it's the law"--parents are very busy changing the laws. Why would you endorse the schools taking this responsibility from parents, when you expressly want the schools NOT to be "a village" and not to say the students are "our kids".

They're your kids, great. You report their crimes, especially when the crimes are off school property and between students.

ETA: one more post of personal attacks or deflection will prove you cannot reconcile the contradiction here. Exactly. Welcome to teaching in the 21st century.

 

[SweetSue92]

And there you go once again. Holy hell, you can't even stick to the topic, and you are the one that raised it in the first place.

Honestly, I do not think you give a damn at all, you just want to attack "Conservatives".

I AM a conservative. I am just going to say this one more time: the point of this thread is to illustrate how teachers cannot win. Out one side of their mouths, parents say stay out of our business, teach the three Rs, they're not your kids.

Out of the other side; but oh yeah, if you hear something, now they're YOUR kids, you'd better report to police directly (you don't even need to tell us) or GO TO JAIL.

All these personal attacks do not in any way mitigate the utter insanity of the above position.

 

[Mushroom]

I AM a conservative.

So this thread is even more nonsensical. Since you have claimed "no Conservatives" have an answer, that can only mean you have no answer either.

Hence, this entire thread is a pointless exercise in mental masturbation.

Oh, but teachers and anybody else that falls under mandatory reporting laws can win, simply follow the law.

What it all really boils down to is that you do not like the law. Well, that sucks. Too bad. Life moves on.

 

[SweetSue92]

So this thread is even more nonsensical. Since you have claimed "no Conservatives" have an answer, that can only mean you have no answer either.

Hence, this entire thread is a pointless exercise in mental masturbation.

Oh, but teachers and anybody else that falls under mandatory reporting laws can win, simply follow the law.

What it all really boils down to is that you do not like the law. Well, that sucks. Too bad. Life moves on.

Last question: is it your position that all laws are good and should be followed to the letter?

 

[SweetSue92]

In what post did you explain WHY, from a parents rights POV, it's okay to:

1. Monitor hearsay from teenagers and then
2. Report to police
3. Often without parental notification

WHY.

Not "it's the law"--parents are very busy changing the laws. Why would you endorse the schools taking this responsibility from parents, when you expressly want the schools NOT to be "a village" and not to say the students are "our kids".

They're your kids, great. You report their crimes, especially when the crimes are off school property and between students.

ETA: one more post of personal attacks or deflection will prove you cannot reconcile the contradiction here. Exactly. Welcome to teaching in the 21st century.

Bob weren't you one of the posters here who wanted classrooms on live cam because you don't trust teachers, even though it was explained to you that live cam access can be hacked and some parents don't want their children to be videotaped?

So you trust teachers so little that you will put students' privacy at risk even to the detriment of their safety, right? But you are ALSO okay with these same teachers getting hearsay from teenagers, bypassing the parents, and making police reports on crimes happening outside school hours and off school property.

???

What makes a person who thinks so little of teachers that you want to spy into their classrooms at any time, think they should be trusted with teenage hearsay to the point of filing police reports?

 

[Mushroom]

Last question: is it your position that all laws are good and should be followed to the letter?

That is an absolutely stupid statement, and is not even worth responding to.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

That is an absolutely stupid statement, and is not even worth responding to.

she has proven she is a cry baby upset because we the people expect her as a teacher to act responsibly with our kids.

 

[SweetSue92]

she has proven she is a cry baby upset because we the people expect her as a teacher to act responsibly with our kids.

Are we a village or not a village?

Should we mind our business and pass this stuff on to parents or not?

I think you all are seriously flailing here.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Are we a village or not a village?

Should we mind our business and pass this stuff on to parents or not?

I think you all are seriously flailing here.

retard any person in a position of authority over minors should have to report criminal activity they become aware of involving those minors. Especially if the minor TELLS them about it. Inform the parents but that does not alleviate the requirement to report.

 

[Vastator]

Are we a village or not a village?

Should we mind our business and pass this stuff on to parents or not?

I think you all are seriously flailing here.

Well... you are the singular poster across all the spectrums to hold your position. So someone seems to be flailing, but I don't think it's who you suspect...

 

[SweetSue92]

retard any person in a position of authority over minors should have to report criminal activity they become aware of involving those minors. Especially if the minor TELLS them about it. Inform the parents but that does not alleviate the requirement to report.

High school just became very fascinating.

 

[SweetSue92]

Well... you are the singular poster across all the spectrums to hold your position. So someone seems to be flailing, but I don't think it's who you suspect...

I don't hold that position. I'm asking why YOU hold contradictory positions.

 

[Unkotare]

I'm sorry you don't love the profession enough to call out what a raging forest fire it is right now. I figure you're about 10 years behind-...

I've been teaching for 30 years (not kindergarten) and have worked with the most difficult students. YOU bitch about kindergarten music class as if you're on the front lines. Teach, quit, or SHUT THE FUCK UP.