School Punishes Boy for Opposing Homosexuality

[Ravi]

The important thing daws is that we both agree that homosexuals are born that way.

If you want to take offense to me therefore characterizing it as a birth defect that's your right, but you are wrong if you think I do so in an attempt to denigrate homosexuals, which I believe you do. In fact, I think that if there was widespread acknowledgment that it is indeed a birth defect, that would do more to end discrimination and oppression of gays than all the progress that's been made to date. Most of the discriminatory attitudes and actions taken toward homosexuals stems from the belief that it's a choice.

You've posted some stupid things before, but that has got to be the stupidest.

 

[daws101]

The important thing daws is that we both agree that homosexuals are born that way.

If you want to take offense to me therefore characterizing it as a birth defect that's your right, but you are wrong if you think I do so in an attempt to denigrate homosexuals, which I believe you do. In fact, I think that if there was widespread acknowledgment that it is indeed a birth defect, that would do more to end discrimination and oppression of gays than all the progress that's been made to date. Most of the discriminatory attitudes and actions taken toward homosexuals stems from the belief that it's a choice.

I agree.

 

[manifold]

The important thing daws is that we both agree that homosexuals are born that way.

If you want to take offense to me therefore characterizing it as a birth defect that's your right, but you are wrong if you think I do so in an attempt to denigrate homosexuals, which I believe you do. In fact, I think that if there was widespread acknowledgment that it is indeed a birth defect, that would do more to end discrimination and oppression of gays than all the progress that's been made to date. Most of the discriminatory attitudes and actions taken toward homosexuals stems from the belief that it's a choice.

You've posted some stupid things before, but that has got to be the stupidest.

Compelling rebuttal indeed.

 

[daws101]

The important thing daws is that we both agree that homosexuals are born that way.

If you want to take offense to me therefore characterizing it as a birth defect that's your right, but you are wrong if you think I do so in an attempt to denigrate homosexuals, which I believe you do. In fact, I think that if there was widespread acknowledgment that it is indeed a birth defect, that would do more to end discrimination and oppression of gays than all the progress that's been made to date. Most of the discriminatory attitudes and actions taken toward homosexuals stems from the belief that it's a choice.

You've posted some stupid things before, but that has got to be the stupidest.

that's as may be but it's a beginning!

 

[manifold]

The important thing daws is that we both agree that homosexuals are born that way.

If you want to take offense to me therefore characterizing it as a birth defect that's your right, but you are wrong if you think I do so in an attempt to denigrate homosexuals, which I believe you do. In fact, I think that if there was widespread acknowledgment that it is indeed a birth defect, that would do more to end discrimination and oppression of gays than all the progress that's been made to date. Most of the discriminatory attitudes and actions taken toward homosexuals stems from the belief that it's a choice.

I agree.

Thanks.

I would like to add a point of clarification regarding my last sentence. It isn't just the discriminatory attitudes that stem from the belief that it's a choice, but also the justification peddled for said discrimination.

 

[Mr Natural]

And to think this happened in Texas.

Maybe there's hope for those people yet.

 

[manifold]

Laugh all you want Ravs, but you know it's true that if homosexuality were to be medically deemed a birth defect it would almost instantly eliminate 99% of the arguments used to justify discrimination against them.

 

[Ravi]

Laugh all you want Ravs, but you know it's true that if homosexuality were to be medically deemed a birth defect it would almost instantly eliminate 99% of the arguments used to justify discrimination against them.

Or if it were named a religion.

Regardless, it's stupid.

Lets claim group X is suffering from a birth defect and everyone will treat them better.

hahahahahahaha!

 

[daws101]

And to think this happened in Texas.

Maybe there's hope for those people yet.

the texans or the christians?

 

[manifold]

Laugh all you want Ravs, but you know it's true that if homosexuality were to be medically deemed a birth defect it would almost instantly eliminate 99% of the arguments used to justify discrimination against them.

Or if it were named a religion.

Regardless, it's stupid.

Lets claim group X is suffering from a birth defect and everyone will treat them better.

hahahahahahaha!

Your overly simplified dismissal aside, in this case there is actually a sound basis for the argument. But I certainly don't expect you to acknowledge it. I know you too well.

 

[Ravi]

Laugh all you want Ravs, but you know it's true that if homosexuality were to be medically deemed a birth defect it would almost instantly eliminate 99% of the arguments used to justify discrimination against them.

Or if it were named a religion.

Regardless, it's stupid.

Lets claim group X is suffering from a birth defect and everyone will treat them better.

hahahahahahaha!

Your overly simplified dismissal aside, in this case there is actually a sound basis for the argument. But I certainly don't expect you to acknowledge it. I know you too well.

Methinks you are the one that is overly simple.

 

[manifold]

Or if it were named a religion.

Regardless, it's stupid.

Lets claim group X is suffering from a birth defect and everyone will treat them better.

hahahahahahaha!

Your overly simplified dismissal aside, in this case there is actually a sound basis for the argument. But I certainly don't expect you to acknowledge it. I know you too well.

Methinks you are the one that is overly simple.

How many immaterial ad-hom rebuttals do you have in you before you bore yourself?

You're already boring me to tears.

But whatcha gonna do?

 

[daws101]

 

[Ravi]

Your overly simplified dismissal aside, in this case there is actually a sound basis for the argument. But I certainly don't expect you to acknowledge it. I know you too well.

Methinks you are the one that is overly simple.

How many immaterial ad-hom rebuttals do you have in you before you bore yourself?

You're already boring me to tears.

But whatcha gonna do?

Your logic would lead anything outside of a white straight blue eyed blond Christian being labeled birth defect.

You haven't made a case whatsoever, just spouting off some homophobic nonsense.

 

[manifold]

Your logic would lead anything outside of a white straight blue eyed blond Christian being labeled birth defect.

Hyperbolic fear mongering is slightly better than off-topic ad-homs I suppose. But not by much.

Try harder.

 

[Ravi]

Do you also think bigotry is a birth defect? How about racism or sexism? How about a foot fetish?

Are these choices or defects?

Shoot, if every little difference were labeled birth defect what a wonderful world it would be.

 

[daws101]

Do you also think bigotry is a birth defect? How about racism or sexism? How about a foot fetish?

Are these choices or defects?

Shoot, if every little difference were labeled birth defect what a wonderful world it would be.

 

[manifold]

Do you also think bigotry is a birth defect? How about racism or sexism? How about a foot fetish?

So your best argument is to compare homosexuality to bigotry, racism and arguably sexual deviancy.

My my.

 

[Ravi]

Way to avoid answering.

 

[manifold]

Way to avoid answering.

You mean way to avoid taking the bait.

The discussion here is about whether homosexuals are born that way, and if so, is it reasonable to characterize it as a birth defect. There is very little ambiguity surrounding the meaning of the word homosexuality. There is ample ambiguity surrounding the contextual meaning of racism, sexism and bigotry. So if you want to take the time to specifically define what you mean by those, I'd be happy to opine as to whether what you define is something people are born with and is therefore a birth defect, or if it's something else.