Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered

[USAF 2023]

The only people the Palestinians have to defend themselves against are their own leaders who are leading them to disaster after disaster and mindless bigots like you who encourage their suffering. Israel wants to make peace with the Palestinian people.

If Israel wanted peace, it wouldn't violate the ceasefires. If Israel wanted peace, it would end the occupation.

What do you mean by end the occupation?
When Israel offered 98% of the land the Palestinians demanded they turned it down. How can they end the occupation better than that!?

They don’t want 98 percent; they want 100 percent, “ Right of Return” which could in time make the Israelis the minority,and demanding they have control over a possible highway between Gaza and the W. Bank which is on Israeli territory , PLUS release of Palestinian prisoners. They are deliberately making demands they know Israel Is not going to agree to .

 

[admonit]

C'mon, they get an apartheid regime, that's not nothing.

It's not apartheid if the "oppressed" don't WANT to be citizens. Go find me any Palestinians that want to have Israeli citizenship and rights. That's NOT their demand.

And if they want but are denied Israeli citizenship, it's apartheid?
Palestinians have no more rights to Israeli nationality than any other foreigners have. Given their hatred toward Israel, any consideration of such rights is an absurd.
Many Palestinians not only want Israeli citizenship or residency right, they dream about it. Thousands Palestinian men married fictively Israeli Arab women to get Israeli citizenship. Thousands East Jerusalem Arab residents ask for Israeli citizenship. They hate the Jewish state, but they love to enjoy its welfare.

It's still an occupation that has gone on too long.

It's still their hate toward the Jewish people and the Jewish state that has gone on too long. That's why any discussion here about possible solution of the conflict has no sense. Too late.

 

[there4eyeM]

"Nobody's right when everybody's wrong. (There's a man with a gun over there, tellin' me I got to beware)."

 

[flacaltenn]

C'mon, they get an apartheid regime, that's not nothing.

It's not apartheid if the "oppressed" don't WANT to be citizens. Go find me any Palestinians that want to have Israeli citizenship and rights. That's NOT their demand.

And if they want but are denied Israeli citizenship, it's apartheid?
Palestinians have no more rights to Israeli nationality than any other foreigners have. Given their hatred toward Israel, any consideration of such rights is an absurd.
Many Palestinians not only want Israeli citizenship or residency right, they dream about it. Thousands Palestinian men married fictively Israeli Arab women to get Israeli citizenship. Thousands East Jerusalem Arab residents ask for Israeli citizenship. They hate the Jewish state, but they love to enjoy its welfare.

It's still an occupation that has gone on too long.

It's still their hate toward the Jewish people and the Jewish state that has gone on too long. That's why any discussion here about possible solution of the conflict has no sense. Too late.

There are thriving Pali cities in the West Bank.. It's NOT "too late" for some accommodations. Maybe THEY can't do it. Maybe it needs to be done FOR them. Until they accept the burdens and responsibility of self government.

And on the citizenship issue --- if there was a settlement that gave some autonomy to Palestinians, there MIGHT be some Palis choose to remain in Israeli areas. If they PREFER it to the Pali state in whatever form it might be -- they'd probably be reliable citizens of Israel..

 

[cnm]

They were handed an entire infrastructure and destroyed it.

You forget the blockade they got with it.

 

[cnm]

There is no Jewish/ Israeli occupation in Judea and Samaria.

How about in the West Bank?

 

[Sixties Fan]

They were handed an entire infrastructure and destroyed it.

You forget the blockade they got with it.

The blockade did not happen until the Arabs started firing rockets into Israel. And have not stopped to this day.

The aim is to destroy Israel, and take the land back into Muslim hands, as it was after the Ottomans defeated the Crusaders and took over the land for 500 years.

They prefer being mistreated by other Muslims, rather than treated well by the Jews.

 

[Sixties Fan]

There is no Jewish/ Israeli occupation in Judea and Samaria.

How about in the West Bank?

It ceased to be "The West Bank" when Jordan relinquished the land they had conquered in the war of 1948.

It had always been known as Judea and Samaria.

Judea = the Tribe of Judah = the Jews

Since it is Jewish Land, there can be no Jewish "Occupation" of their own land. That would be an oxymoron. Like saying that the Aboriginal people "occupy" Australia.

 

[Indeependent]

They were handed an entire infrastructure and destroyed it.

You forget the blockade they got with it.

The blockade came afterwards.

 

[Indeependent]

There is no Jewish/ Israeli occupation in Judea and Samaria.

How about in the West Bank?

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no Jewish/ Israeli occupation in Judea and Samaria.

How about in the West Bank?

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

 

[Indeependent]

There is no Jewish/ Israeli occupation in Judea and Samaria.

How about in the West Bank?

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no Jewish/ Israeli occupation in Judea and Samaria.

How about in the West Bank?

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

You need to read up. Jordan attempted to annex the West Bank but it is illegal to annex occupied territory so that failed.

 

[Indeependent]

There is no Jewish/ Israeli occupation in Judea and Samaria.

How about in the West Bank?

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

You need to read up. Jordan attempted to annex the West Bank but it is illegal to annex occupied territory so that failed.

Jordan used a piece of land to launch an attack.
Israel kicked their ass and took control of that land.
Assholes such as yourself have been crying about this for 50 years and haven’t done shit about it.
And quite frankly, an insignificant piece of zero keyboard warrior such as yourself will continue to cry about this until you die a lonely death in your nursing home room.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How about in the West Bank?

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

You need to read up. Jordan attempted to annex the West Bank but it is illegal to annex occupied territory so that failed.

Jordan used a piece of land to launch an attack.
Israel kicked their ass and took control of that land.
Assholes such as yourself have been crying about this for 50 years and haven’t done shit about it.
And quite frankly, an insignificant piece of zero keyboard warrior such as yourself will continue to cry about this until you die a lonely death in your nursing home room.

Why do you think it is called Occupied Palestinian Territory?

 

[Hollie]

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

You need to read up. Jordan attempted to annex the West Bank but it is illegal to annex occupied territory so that failed.

Jordan used a piece of land to launch an attack.
Israel kicked their ass and took control of that land.
Assholes such as yourself have been crying about this for 50 years and haven’t done shit about it.
And quite frankly, an insignificant piece of zero keyboard warrior such as yourself will continue to cry about this until you die a lonely death in your nursing home room.

Why do you think it is called Occupied Palestinian Territory?

Actually, its called the disputed territories.

Arabs-Moslems claiming territory as a waqf (a religious endowment), merely in furtherance of the musings of an Arab warlord is not a reliable argument.

 

[rylah]

How about that war Jordan lost, Muzzie boy?

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

You need to read up. Jordan attempted to annex the West Bank but it is illegal to annex occupied territory so that failed.

Jordan used a piece of land to launch an attack.
Israel kicked their ass and took control of that land.
Assholes such as yourself have been crying about this for 50 years and haven’t done shit about it.
And quite frankly, an insignificant piece of zero keyboard warrior such as yourself will continue to cry about this until you die a lonely death in your nursing home room.

Why do you think it is called Occupied Palestinian Territory?

Q. Why do You think Arabs call it the "Jewish Desert"?


Sahara Yahudin -صحراء يهودا‎

The Judaean Desert or Judean Desert (Hebrew: מִדְבַּר יְהוּדָה‎ Midbar Yehuda, both Desert of Judah or Judaean Desert; Arabic: Sahara Yahudan) is a desert in Israel and the West Bank that lies east of Jerusalem and descends to the Dead Sea. It stretches from the northeastern Negev to the east of Beit El, and is marked by terraces with escarpments.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It doesn't matter. It was not Jordan's land to lose.

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

You need to read up. Jordan attempted to annex the West Bank but it is illegal to annex occupied territory so that failed.

Jordan used a piece of land to launch an attack.
Israel kicked their ass and took control of that land.
Assholes such as yourself have been crying about this for 50 years and haven’t done shit about it.
And quite frankly, an insignificant piece of zero keyboard warrior such as yourself will continue to cry about this until you die a lonely death in your nursing home room.

Why do you think it is called Occupied Palestinian Territory?

Actually, its called the disputed territories.

Arabs-Moslems claiming territory as a waqf (a religious endowment), merely in furtherance of the musings of an Arab warlord is not a reliable argument.

Only by Israel.

 

[Hollie]

Yes it was.
And lose it they did.

You need to read up. Jordan attempted to annex the West Bank but it is illegal to annex occupied territory so that failed.

Jordan used a piece of land to launch an attack.
Israel kicked their ass and took control of that land.
Assholes such as yourself have been crying about this for 50 years and haven’t done shit about it.
And quite frankly, an insignificant piece of zero keyboard warrior such as yourself will continue to cry about this until you die a lonely death in your nursing home room.

Why do you think it is called Occupied Palestinian Territory?

Actually, its called the disputed territories.

Arabs-Moslems claiming territory as a waqf (a religious endowment), merely in furtherance of the musings of an Arab warlord is not a reliable argument.

Only by Israel.

False. The Hamas charter specifically makes a reference to the term waqf (in connection to the land of Israel).

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Article Eleven:
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?



The inventor of your politico-religious ideology, Muhammad (swish), had this cute idea that all lands previously conquered in gee-had belonged to islamics in perpetuity.

 

[toomuchtime_]

If you had a brain, you wouldn't post such nonsense. Israel wants peace, but the leadership of the Palestinians want war, and it seems you do, too.

It's not nonsense, its a historical fact. And how can you possibly say Israel wants peace, when they shoot innocent, un-armed Palestinians?

Obviously, "innocent" is another word you don't understand.