Sanders is running in 2020

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Green Party ?
Communist Party ?
Socialist Workers Party ?
Clueless Adolescent Party ?
Venezuelan Nicaraguan Party ?

Imbeciles.......

 

[there4eyeM]

I liked Bernie until he threw away thirty years of rhetoric to support the type of crony he supposedly works against..
Fuck bernie

He, like all of us, was presented with two lousy choices. Withholding any endorsement would have been the same as endorsing Trump.

There were other candidates. In any case, voting for a war criminal is complicity; better not to vote at all. Sanders did the 'left' thing and supported the more left candidate out of ideology. He is old and his version of what is called Socialism is outdated, though not more so than the current mish-mash of thinking that current American politics is. Unfortunately, no one on the horizon fits the profile for next P. O.T. U. S., including the present one. The only one thing Trump has going for him is that he is not an ideologue. That is an attribute 'next P. O.T. U. S.' must have, also. But, non-ideological is not synonymous with incoherent.

Viability is the key word. What other candidate had a snowball's chance in hell?

Did a viable candidate win?

 

[ricechickie]

I liked Bernie until he threw away thirty years of rhetoric to support the type of crony he supposedly works against..
Fuck bernie

He, like all of us, was presented with two lousy choices. Withholding any endorsement would have been the same as endorsing Trump.

There were other candidates. In any case, voting for a war criminal is complicity; better not to vote at all. Sanders did the 'left' thing and supported the more left candidate out of ideology. He is old and his version of what is called Socialism is outdated, though not more so than the current mish-mash of thinking that current American politics is. Unfortunately, no one on the horizon fits the profile for next P. O.T. U. S., including the present one. The only one thing Trump has going for him is that he is not an ideologue. That is an attribute 'next P. O.T. U. S.' must have, also. But, non-ideological is not synonymous with incoherent.

Viability is the key word. What other candidate had a snowball's chance in hell?

Did a viable candidate win?

Obvi. He had the backing of a major party.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That thinking is why. People like you. "If you don't vote for so and so, it's actually a vote for the other guy" bullshit. It's a vote for who you want to win.
I wonder how many voted for trump or Clinton that didn't like either of them?
Bernie threw his integrity away as you are throwing yours away justifying it.
I mean, seriously. A man that rails against the establishment that bends over to let it fuck him.
OK

Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, I see.

I am not a child. I fought for my candidate, and he didn't make it. I did my homework, and I saw what it could come down to. I put on my big-girl pants and I voted for the closest approximation to a viable candidate that would fight for the America I want.

If I threw away my integrity, then others threw away the election with their protest votes.

Bernie threw away his integrity by telling us for 4-5 months what a piece of shit Clinton was and you should not trust her....and then when he knew he was out, all of a sudden....Clinton was now ok to vote for?......thats called being a hypocrite....he could have said he doesnt back either one of these 2 people and walked away....

Hello, welcome to America. So, let me tell you how elections work....

Primaries are held for each party. It is during these primaries that candidates highlight the differences between themselves and the other candidates of the same party. They rarely agree on anything, because they want to distinguish themselves to the voters of that party.

Then, as it becomes clear who will win the nomination, some candidates drop out. They often become supporters of one of the remaining candidates.

Once there is a nominee for both parties, usually division is put aside, as in the general election, the differences between parties must be highlighted.

That's a general outline. Good luck in your recent citizenship.

well i think you made it clear the difference between me and you...you dont care about the persons character,you only care about your piece of shit party.....since i seem to care more about the country....let me say this to you....good luck on your recent citizenship,but here unlike the shithole you came from.....most of us care about whats best for the country,not the party.....yea i know that dam party told you they are the most important thing here in America....

Actually, if all I cared about was party, I wouldn't have resisted a Clinton vote for as long as I could. But eventually, I saw that even Hillary Clinton was better than the POS that ended up getting the Republican nomination. So go have your tantrum somewhere else. Grown-ups are talking.

whats the matter little chickie?....dont like it when someone has a differing opinion?....get used to it,its like that here in America......

 

[ricechickie]

Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, I see.

I am not a child. I fought for my candidate, and he didn't make it. I did my homework, and I saw what it could come down to. I put on my big-girl pants and I voted for the closest approximation to a viable candidate that would fight for the America I want.

If I threw away my integrity, then others threw away the election with their protest votes.

Bernie threw away his integrity by telling us for 4-5 months what a piece of shit Clinton was and you should not trust her....and then when he knew he was out, all of a sudden....Clinton was now ok to vote for?......thats called being a hypocrite....he could have said he doesnt back either one of these 2 people and walked away....

Hello, welcome to America. So, let me tell you how elections work....

Primaries are held for each party. It is during these primaries that candidates highlight the differences between themselves and the other candidates of the same party. They rarely agree on anything, because they want to distinguish themselves to the voters of that party.

Then, as it becomes clear who will win the nomination, some candidates drop out. They often become supporters of one of the remaining candidates.

Once there is a nominee for both parties, usually division is put aside, as in the general election, the differences between parties must be highlighted.

That's a general outline. Good luck in your recent citizenship.

well i think you made it clear the difference between me and you...you dont care about the persons character,you only care about your piece of shit party.....since i seem to care more about the country....let me say this to you....good luck on your recent citizenship,but here unlike the shithole you came from.....most of us care about whats best for the country,not the party.....yea i know that dam party told you they are the most important thing here in America....

Actually, if all I cared about was party, I wouldn't have resisted a Clinton vote for as long as I could. But eventually, I saw that even Hillary Clinton was better than the POS that ended up getting the Republican nomination. So go have your tantrum somewhere else. Grown-ups are talking.

whats the matter little chickie?....dont like it when someone has a differing opinion?....get used to it,its like that here in America......

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

 

[presonorek]

One of the two parties were going to win. Think about that.

That thinking is why. People like you. "If you don't vote for so and so, it's actually a vote for the other guy" bullshit. It's a vote for who you want to win.
I wonder how many voted for trump or Clinton that didn't like either of them?
Bernie threw his integrity away as you are throwing yours away justifying it.
I mean, seriously. A man that rails against the establishment that bends over to let it fuck him.
OK

Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, I see.

I am not a child. I fought for my candidate, and he didn't make it. I did my homework, and I saw what it could come down to. I put on my big-girl pants and I voted for the closest approximation to a viable candidate that would fight for the America I want.

If I threw away my integrity, then others threw away the election with their protest votes.

Bernie threw away his integrity by telling us for 4-5 months what a piece of shit Clinton was and you should not trust her....and then when he knew he was out, all of a sudden....Clinton was now ok to vote for?......thats called being a hypocrite....he could have said he doesnt back either one of these 2 people and walked away....

Yeah. About that. Only 100% of humans are hypocrites. I'm sorry that nobody told you.

yea about that....the only human i was talking about was bernie sanders....im sorry nobody told you that....maybe you as a good republican should learn how to read....

Yep. Bernie Sanders is a human too. That would make him a hypocrite. I was referring to 100% of humans. That would not exclude Bernie Sanders. He fits in the category of being a human too.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Bernie threw away his integrity by telling us for 4-5 months what a piece of shit Clinton was and you should not trust her....and then when he knew he was out, all of a sudden....Clinton was now ok to vote for?......thats called being a hypocrite....he could have said he doesnt back either one of these 2 people and walked away....

Hello, welcome to America. So, let me tell you how elections work....

Primaries are held for each party. It is during these primaries that candidates highlight the differences between themselves and the other candidates of the same party. They rarely agree on anything, because they want to distinguish themselves to the voters of that party.

Then, as it becomes clear who will win the nomination, some candidates drop out. They often become supporters of one of the remaining candidates.

Once there is a nominee for both parties, usually division is put aside, as in the general election, the differences between parties must be highlighted.

That's a general outline. Good luck in your recent citizenship.

well i think you made it clear the difference between me and you...you dont care about the persons character,you only care about your piece of shit party.....since i seem to care more about the country....let me say this to you....good luck on your recent citizenship,but here unlike the shithole you came from.....most of us care about whats best for the country,not the party.....yea i know that dam party told you they are the most important thing here in America....

Actually, if all I cared about was party, I wouldn't have resisted a Clinton vote for as long as I could. But eventually, I saw that even Hillary Clinton was better than the POS that ended up getting the Republican nomination. So go have your tantrum somewhere else. Grown-ups are talking.

whats the matter little chickie?....dont like it when someone has a differing opinion?....get used to it,its like that here in America......

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

 

[ricechickie]

Hello, welcome to America. So, let me tell you how elections work....

Primaries are held for each party. It is during these primaries that candidates highlight the differences between themselves and the other candidates of the same party. They rarely agree on anything, because they want to distinguish themselves to the voters of that party.

Then, as it becomes clear who will win the nomination, some candidates drop out. They often become supporters of one of the remaining candidates.

Once there is a nominee for both parties, usually division is put aside, as in the general election, the differences between parties must be highlighted.

That's a general outline. Good luck in your recent citizenship.

well i think you made it clear the difference between me and you...you dont care about the persons character,you only care about your piece of shit party.....since i seem to care more about the country....let me say this to you....good luck on your recent citizenship,but here unlike the shithole you came from.....most of us care about whats best for the country,not the party.....yea i know that dam party told you they are the most important thing here in America....

Actually, if all I cared about was party, I wouldn't have resisted a Clinton vote for as long as I could. But eventually, I saw that even Hillary Clinton was better than the POS that ended up getting the Republican nomination. So go have your tantrum somewhere else. Grown-ups are talking.

whats the matter little chickie?....dont like it when someone has a differing opinion?....get used to it,its like that here in America......

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

I clearly didn't say that. I clearly said I voted for her because she was marginally better than the piece of shot that the Republicans ran.

And no other candidate had a chance.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That thinking is why. People like you. "If you don't vote for so and so, it's actually a vote for the other guy" bullshit. It's a vote for who you want to win.
I wonder how many voted for trump or Clinton that didn't like either of them?
Bernie threw his integrity away as you are throwing yours away justifying it.
I mean, seriously. A man that rails against the establishment that bends over to let it fuck him.
OK

Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, I see.

I am not a child. I fought for my candidate, and he didn't make it. I did my homework, and I saw what it could come down to. I put on my big-girl pants and I voted for the closest approximation to a viable candidate that would fight for the America I want.

If I threw away my integrity, then others threw away the election with their protest votes.

Bernie threw away his integrity by telling us for 4-5 months what a piece of shit Clinton was and you should not trust her....and then when he knew he was out, all of a sudden....Clinton was now ok to vote for?......thats called being a hypocrite....he could have said he doesnt back either one of these 2 people and walked away....

Yeah. About that. Only 100% of humans are hypocrites. I'm sorry that nobody told you.

yea about that....the only human i was talking about was bernie sanders....im sorry nobody told you that....maybe you as a good republican should learn how to read....

Yep. Bernie Sanders is a human too. That would make him a hypocrite. I was referring to 100% of humans. That would not exclude Bernie Sanders. He fits in the category of being a human too.

Bernie Sanders is a human too.
yea i believe i said that....
That would make him a hypocrite.
yep said that too....
I was referring to 100% of humans.
i was referring to just one
That would not exclude Bernie Sanders
thats him!....thats the guy i was referring too....
He fits in the category of being a human too.
wow no shit?... you must have a degree or something

 

[Harry Dresden]

well i think you made it clear the difference between me and you...you dont care about the persons character,you only care about your piece of shit party.....since i seem to care more about the country....let me say this to you....good luck on your recent citizenship,but here unlike the shithole you came from.....most of us care about whats best for the country,not the party.....yea i know that dam party told you they are the most important thing here in America....

Actually, if all I cared about was party, I wouldn't have resisted a Clinton vote for as long as I could. But eventually, I saw that even Hillary Clinton was better than the POS that ended up getting the Republican nomination. So go have your tantrum somewhere else. Grown-ups are talking.

whats the matter little chickie?....dont like it when someone has a differing opinion?....get used to it,its like that here in America......

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

I clearly didn't say that. I clearly said I voted for her because she was marginally better than the piece of shot that the Republicans ran.

And no other candidate had a chance.

yea you clearly did.....you could have said like many of us did and said i cant vote for either one of these 2 asswipes and voted for anyone else....but you went with who your party said was the best out there when she was the most tainted candidate to maybe ever run....that means you did not care about the person running,you voted party.....and no other candidate had a chance because of people who have the same mind set as you have.....if it aint a Democrat or a Republican i aint voting for them,and it doesnt matter how bad the 2 might be...its the lessor of 2 evils bullshit....hey i wont vote for Satan,but i will give Dracula my vote....

 

[ricechickie]

Actually, if all I cared about was party, I wouldn't have resisted a Clinton vote for as long as I could. But eventually, I saw that even Hillary Clinton was better than the POS that ended up getting the Republican nomination. So go have your tantrum somewhere else. Grown-ups are talking.

whats the matter little chickie?....dont like it when someone has a differing opinion?....get used to it,its like that here in America......

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

I clearly didn't say that. I clearly said I voted for her because she was marginally better than the piece of shot that the Republicans ran.

And no other candidate had a chance.

yea you clearly did.....you could have said like many of us did and said i cant vote for either one of these 2 asswipes and voted for anyone else....but you went with who your party said was the best out there when she was the most tainted candidate to maybe ever run....that means you did not care about the person running,you voted party.....and no other candidate had a chance because of people who have the same mind set as you have.....if it aint a Democrat or a Republican i aint voting for them,and it doesnt matter how bad the 2 might be...its the lessor of 2 evils bullshit....hey i wont vote for Satan,but i will give Dracula my vote....

If it's obvious that one or the other is going to win, then you choose a side. I wasn't beholden to party; I was voting against the POS Trump.

 

[Harry Dresden]

whats the matter little chickie?....dont like it when someone has a differing opinion?....get used to it,its like that here in America......

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

I clearly didn't say that. I clearly said I voted for her because she was marginally better than the piece of shot that the Republicans ran.

And no other candidate had a chance.

yea you clearly did.....you could have said like many of us did and said i cant vote for either one of these 2 asswipes and voted for anyone else....but you went with who your party said was the best out there when she was the most tainted candidate to maybe ever run....that means you did not care about the person running,you voted party.....and no other candidate had a chance because of people who have the same mind set as you have.....if it aint a Democrat or a Republican i aint voting for them,and it doesnt matter how bad the 2 might be...its the lessor of 2 evils bullshit....hey i wont vote for Satan,but i will give Dracula my vote....

If it's obvious that one or the other is going to win, then you choose a side. I wasn't beholden to party; I was voting against the POS Trump.

thats the mindset i am talking about.....you could have chosen to vote against both of them....because of people like you in both parties we have the shit we have had for the last 17 years running this country......

 

[ricechickie]

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

I clearly didn't say that. I clearly said I voted for her because she was marginally better than the piece of shot that the Republicans ran.

And no other candidate had a chance.

yea you clearly did.....you could have said like many of us did and said i cant vote for either one of these 2 asswipes and voted for anyone else....but you went with who your party said was the best out there when she was the most tainted candidate to maybe ever run....that means you did not care about the person running,you voted party.....and no other candidate had a chance because of people who have the same mind set as you have.....if it aint a Democrat or a Republican i aint voting for them,and it doesnt matter how bad the 2 might be...its the lessor of 2 evils bullshit....hey i wont vote for Satan,but i will give Dracula my vote....

If it's obvious that one or the other is going to win, then you choose a side. I wasn't beholden to party; I was voting against the POS Trump.

thats the mindset i am talking about.....you could have chosen to vote against both of them....because of people like you in both parties we have the shit we have had for the last 17 years running this country......

You know what? I've gone too long here. I told you why I voted the way I voted. To convince you it was the right way for me simply isn't a requirement.

 

[Harry Dresden]

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

I clearly didn't say that. I clearly said I voted for her because she was marginally better than the piece of shot that the Republicans ran.

And no other candidate had a chance.

yea you clearly did.....you could have said like many of us did and said i cant vote for either one of these 2 asswipes and voted for anyone else....but you went with who your party said was the best out there when she was the most tainted candidate to maybe ever run....that means you did not care about the person running,you voted party.....and no other candidate had a chance because of people who have the same mind set as you have.....if it aint a Democrat or a Republican i aint voting for them,and it doesnt matter how bad the 2 might be...its the lessor of 2 evils bullshit....hey i wont vote for Satan,but i will give Dracula my vote....

If it's obvious that one or the other is going to win, then you choose a side. I wasn't beholden to party; I was voting against the POS Trump.

thats the mindset i am talking about.....you could have chosen to vote against both of them....because of people like you in both parties we have the shit we have had for the last 17 years running this country......

You know what? I've gone too long here. I told you why I voted the way I voted. To convince you it was the right way for me simply isn't a requirement.

all i did was comment on bernie.....you are the one who gave me the lecture about how voting goes....

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Bernie Sanders... please.

Complete nincompoop.

 

[presonorek]

wow no shit?... you must have a degree or something

I do. That is how I know so much about reality. They teach that stuff in college. The nursery rhymes and the fairy tales are for the younger school ages.

All humans are hypocrites. Pointing out that Bernie Sanders is a hypocrite is akin to telling us that the sky is blue. It is a completely unnecessary comment.

 

[presonorek]

You didn't just have a differing opinion; you put words in my mouth. You said I don't care about character, only party. I disabused you of that notion.

sorry but thats what you told me,when you gave me your little lecture about how primaries go.....you basically told me you have to go with one of the nominees....you apparently dont care for clinton,BUT,you went with her anyways,because, thats who your party said you should go with....same thing that bernie did ....you could have voted for a non democrat or a non republican,but you didnt did you?.....so you dont care about the character of the person running....but you did support that partys shitty choice anyway....but dont worry there a lot of people like you on both sides....

I clearly didn't say that. I clearly said I voted for her because she was marginally better than the piece of shot that the Republicans ran.

And no other candidate had a chance.

yea you clearly did.....you could have said like many of us did and said i cant vote for either one of these 2 asswipes and voted for anyone else....but you went with who your party said was the best out there when she was the most tainted candidate to maybe ever run....that means you did not care about the person running,you voted party.....and no other candidate had a chance because of people who have the same mind set as you have.....if it aint a Democrat or a Republican i aint voting for them,and it doesnt matter how bad the 2 might be...its the lessor of 2 evils bullshit....hey i wont vote for Satan,but i will give Dracula my vote....

If it's obvious that one or the other is going to win, then you choose a side. I wasn't beholden to party; I was voting against the POS Trump.

thats the mindset i am talking about.....you could have chosen to vote against both of them....because of people like you in both parties we have the shit we have had for the last 17 years running this country......

And this will continue for at least a century. Don't you think so?

 

[presonorek]

you are the one who gave me the lecture about how voting goes....

Did you learn anything from it? You haven't learned anything from the past 39 presidential elections. I doubt you would be able to make any sense out of a random stranger posting in a message board on the internet. I thought I would ask anyways. Well...

Did you learn anything from it?

 

[Hum Dinger]

In 2020 I doubt Sanders will run. It's possible that he'll be wheeled though.

 

[presonorek]

In 2020 I doubt Sanders will run. It's possible that he'll be wheeled though.

I don't think he will be able to do that either. I'm sure there are some more serious speculators trying to predict who will run for president in 2020. Bernie is probably on their list though.

However you have to remember Donald Trump wasn't on anybody's radar as a presidential contender in 2013. Barrack Obama wasn't on anybody's radar as a presidential contender in 2005. If someone is going to beat Donald Trump in 2020 then I am certain it will be somebody that we least expect.