Same gun laws but Chicago gun violence greater than L.A. And NYC combined, thug culture differences

[2aguy]

yes..apparently, Chicago has more gun violence than L.A. And New York City combined....they have the same gun laws...so what is different......thug culture...

Our former police commissioner was Gary McCarthy.....he used to work in New York and he stated a different thug lived in Chicago....in New York, when you chased a gun thug...they threw away the gun...in Chicago...they keep the gun and shoot at police........a difference in thug culture....

Gun-Controlled Chicago: More Homicides Than LA, NY Combined - Breitbart

 

[2aguy]

This article points out the key difference between New York and Chicago.......in New York...they put gun criminals in jail for a longer time.....Chicago...less than a year...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/18/us/chicago-murder-problem.html?_r=0


And Chicago is more lenient about illegal handguns than New York, prescribing a one-year minimum for possession versus three and a half years in New York. An attempt to match the New York law in 2013 was rejected by the Illinois legislature out of concern for skyrocketing incarceration rates for young black men.

And there you have it....the real reason....put criminals away for a long time...discourages random gun violence...and intentional gun violence......

Japan has a 95% conviction rate for all crimes...and a 30 year sentence for any gun crime.....

That is how you stop gun violence...not by attacking normal gun owners...

Also...stop and frisk....keeps thugs from carrying guns and shooting on impulse....

New York also hired a lot more police officers in response to the crime of the 1990s, and, during its stop-and-frisk era of the 2000s, steeply increased gun enforcement. Recent studies, including one that looked at increased police presence in London after a terrorist attack, have suggested more police might mean less crime, said Jens Ludwig, the director of Crime Lab at the University of Chicago, which studies crime in both Chicago and New York.

Chicago’s Police Department, overwhelmed, can respond only to the most serious problems, leaving citizens to feel responsible for their own security, he said.

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Dr. Hagedorn also points out that though the city also has a lot of Latino gang members, Chicago’s violence is much higher among African-Americans. Three quarters of all homicide offenders and victims are black, he said.

“The shootings today are more spontaneous over day-to-day humiliations of youthful African-Americans,” he said.


Thug culture...not guns....


Many of Chicago’s gangs have fractured, leading to more violence, said Arthur Lurigio, a criminology professor at Loyola University Chicago. While Latino gangs have remained more hierarchical, black gangs have splintered into small, disparate factions, whose disputes are less over territory and profits, and more over personal insults or shames, often fueled by social media, he said.

“Young people are making a lot of indirect threats toward cliques and rival gangs that are being interpreted as being threatening,” said Desmond Patton, a professor at Columbia University who has studied violence on social media. “Tagging is the conversation starter that could lead to someone getting a gun.”

In addition to making threats, individuals at times post their location on social media to prove to rivals that they’re tough, he said.

In one well-known instance, Gakirah Barnes, a Chicago gang member who was rumored to have killed or shot up to 20 rival gang members, referenced an address she frequented on Twitter. In the tweet, provided by Dr. Patton, Ms. Barnes says “Lz,” which has multiple meanings in Chicago gang cultures, including living life, at address number 6347. Later that day, she was shot and killed near the address.

 

[JoeB131]

yes..apparently, Chicago has more gun violence than L.A. And New York City combined....they have the same gun laws...so what is different......thug culture...

Our former police commissioner was Gary McCarthy.....he used to work in New York and he stated a different thug lived in Chicago....in New York, when you chased a gun thug...they threw away the gun...in Chicago...they keep the gun and shoot at police........a difference in thug culture....

This would be the same Gary McCarthy who got fired after he covered up one of his thug cops shooting a man 16 times?

 

[2aguy]

yes..apparently, Chicago has more gun violence than L.A. And New York City combined....they have the same gun laws...so what is different......thug culture...

Our former police commissioner was Gary McCarthy.....he used to work in New York and he stated a different thug lived in Chicago....in New York, when you chased a gun thug...they threw away the gun...in Chicago...they keep the gun and shoot at police........a difference in thug culture....

This would be the same Gary McCarthy who got fired after he covered up one of his thug cops shooting a man 16 times?

Yep......he worked in both cities and said the thug culture was different......Rahm covered up the shooting......it was an election and they have plenty of blacks to vote for democrats.....they don't really have to worry about young black males.....their women vote more...unless their gang leaders order them to vote...

 

[JoeB131]

Yep......he worked in both cities and said the thug culture was different......Rahm covered up the shooting......it was an election and they have plenty of blacks to vote for democrats.....they don't really have to worry about young black males.....their women vote more...unless their gang leaders order them to vote...

seems to me McCarthy was the guy who was in charge of the Police, not Rahm.

So I'll take any of his whining about a community he never understood with a grain of salt.

 

[2aguy]

Yep......he worked in both cities and said the thug culture was different......Rahm covered up the shooting......it was an election and they have plenty of blacks to vote for democrats.....they don't really have to worry about young black males.....their women vote more...unless their gang leaders order them to vote...

seems to me McCarthy was the guy who was in charge of the Police, not Rahm.

So I'll take any of his whining about a community he never understood with a grain of salt.

yeah......Rahm wasn't in charge.....really? Do you even know who Rahm is?

 

[RandallFlagg]

Now Now....take it easy. You shouldn't bring anything up about black on black crime in Chicago. What are you, a racist?


Kidding.


We beat our chests, raise our voices and scream to the heavens when something happens, like a shooting in Orlando. However, no one wants to address the bullshit that goes on in cities that have been liberal democrat controlled since the dark ages. Just ignore it.....

 

[ogibillm]

maybe it has something to do with indiana and michigan...

 

[JoeB131]

yeah......Rahm wasn't in charge.....really? Do you even know who Rahm is?

Rahm was the guy who fired McCarthy's ass and replaced him with a reformer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

yeah......Rahm wasn't in charge.....really? Do you even know who Rahm is?

Rahm was the guy who fired McCarthy's ass and replaced him with a reformer.

never heard of a political sacrificial lamb huh?

Happens all the time

 

[JoeB131]

yeah......Rahm wasn't in charge.....really? Do you even know who Rahm is?

Rahm was the guy who fired McCarthy's ass and replaced him with a reformer.

never heard of a political sacrificial lamb huh?

Happens all the time

and sometimes the lamb has it coming. McCarthy clearly did. The guy made things worse in every possible way.

 

[Skull Pilot]

yeah......Rahm wasn't in charge.....really? Do you even know who Rahm is?

Rahm was the guy who fired McCarthy's ass and replaced him with a reformer.

never heard of a political sacrificial lamb huh?

Happens all the time

and sometimes the lamb has it coming. McCarthy clearly did. The guy made things worse in every possible way.

still a sacrificial lamb

like I said politics as usual

 

[JoeB131]

still a sacrificial lamb

like I said politics as usual

ONce the McDonald Tape came out, and it was clear the extent the CPD had covered up the facts of the case, there was no way McCarthy's position was tenable.

Now, Rahm might well get voted out in 2017. He certainly deserves to. But Alverez (the State's Attorney) and McCarthy needed to go and have.

 

[2aguy]

yeah......Rahm wasn't in charge.....really? Do you even know who Rahm is?

Rahm was the guy who fired McCarthy's ass and replaced him with a reformer.

Reformer....you are delusional....rahm is the problem...the only reason he got rid of mccarthy is because he didn't want people holding himself responsible....

 

[Wilbur Right]

BREAKING NEWS: Chicago is a violent city. Everyone who wants a gun and shouldn't have one has one. Or two.

If you ain't a gang banger, you'll probably be alright.

If you are a vigilante you will find work.

And if you don't like Chicago 2nd A dude, stay the fuck out.
But quit whining about people you hate shooting each other. What fucking difference does it make to you?

 

[2aguy]

maybe it has something to do with indiana and michigan...

You mean Chicago gangs getting guns there? Chicago has a higher gun murder rate than L.A. and New York combined....are you so brain dead that you repeat the stupid talking point of the anti gunners.....What? L.A. gangs and criminals can't drive to Arizona....or Nevada? New York criminals can't drive to Vermont, or Pennsylvania...do you realize that Vermont has almost 0 gun laws....they almost hand out guns like candy....

If you point had merit than New York...with a bigger population...and being next to the easiest gun state in the Union, would have a higher gun murder rate...and it doesn't....I have posted the unique thug culture problems of Chicago....that is the problem...not guns.......

 

[2aguy]

BREAKING NEWS: Chicago is a violent city. Everyone who wants a gun and shouldn't have one has one. Or two.

If you ain't a gang banger, you'll probably be alright.

If you are a vigilante you will find work.

And if you don't like Chicago 2nd A dude, stay the fuck out.
But quit whining about people you hate shooting each other. What fucking difference does it make to you?

I don't hate these poor people....I pity them...they keep voting for democrats...and their children die because of it.....

 

[JoeB131]

Reformer....you are delusional....rahm is the problem...the only reason he got rid of mccarthy is because he didn't want people holding himself responsible....

Most people agree that Eddie Johnson is a reformer.

He got rid of McCarthy because McCarthy knowingly covered up the circumstances of the McDonald Shooting.

 

[2aguy]

still a sacrificial lamb

like I said politics as usual

ONce the McDonald Tape came out, and it was clear the extent the CPD had covered up the facts of the case, there was no way McCarthy's position was tenable.

Now, Rahm might well get voted out in 2017. He certainly deserves to. But Alverez (the State's Attorney) and McCarthy needed to go and have.

Rahm ordered the cover up moron....it was an election year...he didn't want the video out...twit...

 

[2aguy]

Reformer....you are delusional....rahm is the problem...the only reason he got rid of mccarthy is because he didn't want people holding himself responsible....

Most people agree that Eddie Johnson is a reformer.

He got rid of McCarthy because McCarthy knowingly covered up the circumstances of the McDonald Shooting.

Moron...Rahm covered it up mccarthy did what he was told.....moron.