S.C. believed to lack 5 votes to affirm non-conditional, U.S. birthright citizenship

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See: Supreme Court doesn't have 5 votes to uphold birthright citizenship: ex-AG

6/29/2025

"Former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales during an interview on Sunday speculated that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against nationwide injunctions in a landmark case as a compromise after failing to secure five votes on the issue of birthright citizenship."


Of course the Supreme Court doesn’t have 5 votes to affirm unconditional birthright citizenship. That’s because those who wrote and agreed to ratify the 14th Amendment provided a qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ which does in fact need to be satisfied for birthright citizenship.

Let us keep in mind our constitutional system requires and adherence to the text of our Constitution, and its documented legislative intent, which gives context to its text, e.g., see Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903), where our Supreme Court emphatically points out:

”But there is another question underlying this and all other rules for the interpretation of statutes, and that is what was the intention of the legislative body? Without going back to the famous case of the drawing of blood in the streets of Bologna, the books are full of authorities to the effect that the intention of the lawmaking power will prevail even against the letter of the statute; or, as tersely expressed by Mr. Justice Swayne in 90 U.S. 380 :

"A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law."

And in the case of the 14th Amendment’s Section one, the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “disqualifies, for United States Citizenship, a child born to an illegal entrant foreign national while on American soil. How does one arrive at this conclusion? By adhering to a preponderance of evidence expressing “legislative intent” found in the debates during the framing and ratification process of the 14th Amendment.

As an example of legislative intent see, Senator Reverdy Johnson who notes the absolute necessity connected to citizenship upon birth as follows:
"[A]ll that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power—for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us—shall be considered as citizens of the United States. That would seem to be not only a wise but a necessary provision. If there are to be citizens of the United States entitled everywhere to the character of citizens of the United States there should be some certain definition of what citizenship is, what has created the character of citizen as between himself and the United States, and the amendment says that citizenship may depend upon birth, and I know of no better way to give rise to citizenship than the fact of birth within the territory of the United States, born of parents who at the time were subject to the authority of the United States.”

Parents who are subject to the authority of the United States, within the meaning of the Fourteenth, owe allegiance to the United States, enjoy political privileges such as voting, and have military service obligations when called upon, which is not the case of parents who are foreign nationals, and especially of foreign nationals who illegally enter the United States who give birth to offspring.

This and several other examples confirm the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ must exclude from United States Citizenship, the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil. Our very own Supreme Court noted this exclusion in Elk v. Wilkins ___ that the Citizenship Clause’s jurisdictional qualifier means “not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”

Additionally, considering that the 14th Amendment’s Section 5, gives Congress, and only Congress, the exclusive power to adopt “appropriate legislation” to enforce the Amendment, it would be an encroachment upon Congress’s exclusive legislative authority for our Supreme Court members to attach their personal meaning to the Fourteenth Amendment’s qualifier, by which United States Citizenship is granted.

Let us also recall that in 1924 Congress did exercised its exclusive power to enforce the Amendment by appropriate legislation and adopted the “Indian Citizenship Act of 1924”, extending United States citizenship to Indians as outlined in the Act. Since then, there is no “appropriate legislation” to be found under which Congress has extended citizenship, to the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil.

Moving on, it is important to note that under Article 2 of our Constitution, our President gets to exercise administrative policy changes, such as was exercised by Biden when he was President. Not only did President Biden’s Administration allow, but effectively invited, millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, diseased, disabled, criminal, un-vetted terrorist and religious fanatic foreign nationals to flood across our border and settle in various communities where they began to inflict, and to this very day are inflicting, pain and suffering on American citizens and their children.

Keep in mind there is no wording in our Constitution, nor a federal statute, or a Supreme Court ruling, which pronounces that a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national is a U.S. citizen upon birth. Current public policy, and only “policy” not “law”, now recognizes the offspring of an illegal entrant foreign national born on American soil as a citizen of the United States upon birth.

The policy making authority of our President found in Article 2, is a hallmark of our Republican Form of Government, which also provides for elections in order to accommodate for change of existing public policy.

It seems abundantly clear from the above, that President Trump’s E.O., "Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship” is not only constitutional, but is specifically designed to effectuate public policy change which an overwhelming number of American citizens voted for when electing President Trump. And thus, our S.C. members must not get involved in this policy making change authority, except to educate the public how our system works, and that elections have consequences, and one of those consequences is the setting new federal public policy which no longer recognizes the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil, as citizens of the United States upon birth.

JWK

“If aliens might be admitted indiscriminately to enjoy all the rights of citizens at the will of a single state, the Union might itself be endangered by an influx of foreigners, hostile to its institutions, ignorant of its powers, and incapable of a due estimate of its privileges." - Joseph Story
 
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See: Supreme Court doesn't have 5 votes to uphold birthright citizenship: ex-AG

6/29/2025

"Former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales during an interview on Sunday speculated that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against nationwide injunctions in a landmark case as a compromise after failing to secure five votes on the issue of birthright citizenship."


Of course the Supreme Court doesn’t have 5 votes to affirm unconditional birthright citizenship. That’s because those who wrote and agreed to ratify the 14th Amendment provided a qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ which does in fact need to be satisfied for birthright citizenship.

Let us keep in mind our constitutional system requires and adherence to the text of our Constitution, and its documented legislative intent, which gives context to its text, e.g., see Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903), where our Supreme Court emphatically points out:

”But there is another question underlying this and all other rules for the interpretation of statutes, and that is what was the intention of the legislative body? Without going back to the famous case of the drawing of blood in the streets of Bologna, the books are full of authorities to the effect that the intention of the lawmaking power will prevail even against the letter of the statute; or, as tersely expressed by Mr. Justice Swayne in 90 U.S. 380 :

"A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law."

And in the case of the 14th Amendment’s Section one, the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “disqualifies, for United States Citizenship, a child born to an illegal entrant foreign national while on American soil. How does one arrive at this conclusion? By adhering to a preponderance of evidence expressing “legislative intent” found in the debates during the framing and ratification process of the 14th Amendment.

As an example of legislative intent see, Senator Reverdy Johnson who notes the absolute necessity connected to citizenship upon birth as follows:
"[A]ll that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power—for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us—shall be considered as citizens of the United States. That would seem to be not only a wise but a necessary provision. If there are to be citizens of the United States entitled everywhere to the character of citizens of the United States there should be some certain definition of what citizenship is, what has created the character of citizen as between himself and the United States, and the amendment says that citizenship may depend upon birth, and I know of no better way to give rise to citizenship than the fact of birth within the territory of the United States, born of parents who at the time were subject to the authority of the United States.”

Parents who are subject to the authority of the United States, within the meaning of the Fourteenth, owe allegiance to the United States, enjoy political privileges such as voting, and have military service obligations when called upon, which is not the case of parents who are foreign nationals, and especially of foreign nationals who illegally enter the United States who give birth to offspring.

This and several other examples confirm the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ must exclude from United States Citizenship, the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil. Our very own Supreme Court noted this exclusion in Elk v. Wilkins ___ that the Citizenship Clause’s jurisdictional qualifier means “not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”

Additionally, considering that the 14th Amendment’s Section 5, gives Congress, and only Congress, the exclusive power to adopt “appropriate legislation” to enforce the Amendment, it would be an encroachment upon Congress’s exclusive legislative authority for our Supreme Court members to attach their personal meaning to the Fourteenth Amendment’s qualifier, by which United States Citizenship is granted.

Let us also recall that in 1924 Congress did exercised its exclusive power to enforce the Amendment by appropriate legislation and adopted the “Indian Citizenship Act of 1924”, extending United States citizenship to Indians as outlined in the Act. Since then, there is no “appropriate legislation” to be found under which Congress has extended citizenship, to the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil.

Moving on, it is important to note that under Article 2 of our Constitution, our President gets to exercise administrative policy changes, such as was exercised by Biden when he was President. Not only did President Biden’s Administration allow, but effectively invited, millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, diseased, disabled, criminal, un-vetted terrorist and religious fanatic foreign nationals to flood across our border and settle in various communities where they began to inflict, and to this very day are inflicting, pain and suffering on American citizens and their children.

Keep in mind there is no wording in our Constitution, nor a federal statute, or a Supreme Court ruling, which pronounces that a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national is a U.S. citizen upon birth. Current public policy, and only “policy” not “law”, now recognizes the offspring of an illegal entrant foreign national born on American soil as a citizen of the United States upon birth.

The policy making authority of our President found in Article 2, is a hallmark of our Republican Form of Government, which also provides for elections in order to accommodate for change of existing public policy.

It seems abundantly clear from the above, that President Trump’s E.O., "Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship” is not only constitutional, but is specifically designed to effectuate public policy change which an overwhelming number of American citizens voted for when electing President Trump. And thus, our S.C. members must not get involved in this policy making change authority, except to educate the public how our system works, and that elections have consequences, and one of those consequences is the setting new federal public policy which no longer recognizes the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil, as citizens of the United States upon birth.

JWK

“If aliens might be admitted indiscriminately to enjoy all the rights of citizens at the will of a single state, the Union might itself be endangered by an influx of foreigners, hostile to its institutions, ignorant of its powers, and incapable of a due estimate of its privileges." - Joseph Story
"and subject to the jurisdiction of" merely means a person has to be in the US to be under US law in order to be able to get the citizenship.
 
"and subject to the jurisdiction of" merely means a person has to be in the US to be under US law in order to be able to get the citizenship.
Is that your personal opinion, or do you have supportive documentation from those who authored, and helped to ratify the 14th Amendment?
 
Is that your personal opinion, or do you have supportive documentation from those who authored, and helped to ratify the 14th Amendment?

Well, you have United States vs Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649 (1898) which said:

"[T]he real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words, "All persons born in the United States" by the addition "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases -- children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State -- both of which, as has already been shown, by the law of England and by our own law from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country."

So, everyone gets to be citizens who are born in the US, except for those who are being imprisoned during times of war, ie, prison of war camps and those who are diplomatic kids.

The former are not "legally" in the US, they're POWs. They're not subject to US law, they cannot demand due process, they cannot get anything. They can't get up and walk around and do whatever they want. The second have diplomatic immunity, they're not under the jurisdiction of US law.

So, all babies born under US LAW are given birth citizenship, if they want it.
 
It means that birthright citizenship only applys to American citizens, not foreign nationals who illegally crossed our border.

Not at all.

As I just posted above:

Well, you have United States vs Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649 (1898) which said:

"[T]he real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words, "All persons born in the United States" by the addition "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases -- children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State -- both of which, as has already been shown, by the law of England and by our own law from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country."

So, everyone gets to be citizens who are born in the US, except for those who are being imprisoned during times of war, ie, prison of war camps and those who are diplomatic kids.

The former are not "legally" in the US, they're POWs. They're not subject to US law, they cannot demand due process, they cannot get anything. They can't get up and walk around and do whatever they want. The second have diplomatic immunity, they're not under the jurisdiction of US law.

So, all babies born under US LAW are given birth citizenship, if they want it.
 
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See: Supreme Court doesn't have 5 votes to uphold birthright citizenship: ex-AG

6/29/2025

"Former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales during an interview on Sunday speculated that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against nationwide injunctions in a landmark case as a compromise after failing to secure five votes on the issue of birthright citizenship."


Of course the Supreme Court doesn’t have 5 votes to affirm unconditional birthright citizenship. That’s because those who wrote and agreed to ratify the 14th Amendment provided a qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ which does in fact need to be satisfied for birthright citizenship.

Let us keep in mind our constitutional system requires and adherence to the text of our Constitution, and its documented legislative intent, which gives context to its text, e.g., see Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903), where our Supreme Court emphatically points out:

”But there is another question underlying this and all other rules for the interpretation of statutes, and that is what was the intention of the legislative body? Without going back to the famous case of the drawing of blood in the streets of Bologna, the books are full of authorities to the effect that the intention of the lawmaking power will prevail even against the letter of the statute; or, as tersely expressed by Mr. Justice Swayne in 90 U.S. 380 :

"A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law."

And in the case of the 14th Amendment’s Section one, the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “disqualifies, for United States Citizenship, a child born to an illegal entrant foreign national while on American soil. How does one arrive at this conclusion? By adhering to a preponderance of evidence expressing “legislative intent” found in the debates during the framing and ratification process of the 14th Amendment.

As an example of legislative intent see, Senator Reverdy Johnson who notes the absolute necessity connected to citizenship upon birth as follows:
"[A]ll that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power—for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us—shall be considered as citizens of the United States. That would seem to be not only a wise but a necessary provision. If there are to be citizens of the United States entitled everywhere to the character of citizens of the United States there should be some certain definition of what citizenship is, what has created the character of citizen as between himself and the United States, and the amendment says that citizenship may depend upon birth, and I know of no better way to give rise to citizenship than the fact of birth within the territory of the United States, born of parents who at the time were subject to the authority of the United States.”

Parents who are subject to the authority of the United States, within the meaning of the Fourteenth, owe allegiance to the United States, enjoy political privileges such as voting, and have military service obligations when called upon, which is not the case of parents who are foreign nationals, and especially of foreign nationals who illegally enter the United States who give birth to offspring.

This and several other examples confirm the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ must exclude from United States Citizenship, the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil. Our very own Supreme Court noted this exclusion in Elk v. Wilkins ___ that the Citizenship Clause’s jurisdictional qualifier means “not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”

Additionally, considering that the 14th Amendment’s Section 5, gives Congress, and only Congress, the exclusive power to adopt “appropriate legislation” to enforce the Amendment, it would be an encroachment upon Congress’s exclusive legislative authority for our Supreme Court members to attach their personal meaning to the Fourteenth Amendment’s qualifier, by which United States Citizenship is granted.

Let us also recall that in 1924 Congress did exercised its exclusive power to enforce the Amendment by appropriate legislation and adopted the “Indian Citizenship Act of 1924”, extending United States citizenship to Indians as outlined in the Act. Since then, there is no “appropriate legislation” to be found under which Congress has extended citizenship, to the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil.

Moving on, it is important to note that under Article 2 of our Constitution, our President gets to exercise administrative policy changes, such as was exercised by Biden when he was President. Not only did President Biden’s Administration allow, but effectively invited, millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, diseased, disabled, criminal, un-vetted terrorist and religious fanatic foreign nationals to flood across our border and settle in various communities where they began to inflict, and to this very day are inflicting, pain and suffering on American citizens and their children.

Keep in mind there is no wording in our Constitution, nor a federal statute, or a Supreme Court ruling, which pronounces that a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national is a U.S. citizen upon birth. Current public policy, and only “policy” not “law”, now recognizes the offspring of an illegal entrant foreign national born on American soil as a citizen of the United States upon birth.

The policy making authority of our President found in Article 2, is a hallmark of our Republican Form of Government, which also provides for elections in order to accommodate for change of existing public policy.

It seems abundantly clear from the above, that President Trump’s E.O., "Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship” is not only constitutional, but is specifically designed to effectuate public policy change which an overwhelming number of American citizens voted for when electing President Trump. And thus, our S.C. members must not get involved in this policy making change authority, except to educate the public how our system works, and that elections have consequences, and one of those consequences is the setting new federal public policy which no longer recognizes the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil, as citizens of the United States upon birth.

JWK

“If aliens might be admitted indiscriminately to enjoy all the rights of citizens at the will of a single state, the Union might itself be endangered by an influx of foreigners, hostile to its institutions, ignorant of its powers, and incapable of a due estimate of its privileges." - Joseph Story
I would guess that Roberts and the 3 democrats are pro illegal alien
 
"and subject to the jurisdiction of" merely means a person has to be in the US to be under US law in order to be able to get the citizenship

If you don’t mind, I will let the Justices of the Supreme Court decide what it means.

After all, that’s what they’ve been paid to do.
 
Well, you have United States vs Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649 (1898) which said:

"[T]he real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words, "All persons born in the United States" by the addition "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases -- children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State -- both of which, as has already been shown, by the law of England and by our own law from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country."

So, everyone gets to be citizens who are born in the US, except for those who are being imprisoned during times of war, ie, prison of war camps and those who are diplomatic kids.

The former are not "legally" in the US, they're POWs. They're not subject to US law, they cannot demand due process, they cannot get anything. They can't get up and walk around and do whatever they want. The second have diplomatic immunity, they're not under the jurisdiction of US law.

So, all babies born under US LAW are given birth citizenship, if they want it.


That case dealt with the parents who were legal resident aliens and their son born here.

And in 1924, the Congress needed to pass an Act to grant citizenship to American Indians.
 
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See: Supreme Court doesn't have 5 votes to uphold birthright citizenship: ex-AG

6/29/2025

"Former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales during an interview on Sunday speculated that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against nationwide injunctions in a landmark case as a compromise after failing to secure five votes on the issue of birthright citizenship."


Of course the Supreme Court doesn’t have 5 votes to affirm unconditional birthright citizenship. That’s because those who wrote and agreed to ratify the 14th Amendment provided a qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ which does in fact need to be satisfied for birthright citizenship.

Let us keep in mind our constitutional system requires and adherence to the text of our Constitution, and its documented legislative intent, which gives context to its text, e.g., see Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903), where our Supreme Court emphatically points out:

”But there is another question underlying this and all other rules for the interpretation of statutes, and that is what was the intention of the legislative body? Without going back to the famous case of the drawing of blood in the streets of Bologna, the books are full of authorities to the effect that the intention of the lawmaking power will prevail even against the letter of the statute; or, as tersely expressed by Mr. Justice Swayne in 90 U.S. 380 :

"A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law."

And in the case of the 14th Amendment’s Section one, the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “disqualifies, for United States Citizenship, a child born to an illegal entrant foreign national while on American soil. How does one arrive at this conclusion? By adhering to a preponderance of evidence expressing “legislative intent” found in the debates during the framing and ratification process of the 14th Amendment.

As an example of legislative intent see, Senator Reverdy Johnson who notes the absolute necessity connected to citizenship upon birth as follows:
"[A]ll that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power—for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us—shall be considered as citizens of the United States. That would seem to be not only a wise but a necessary provision. If there are to be citizens of the United States entitled everywhere to the character of citizens of the United States there should be some certain definition of what citizenship is, what has created the character of citizen as between himself and the United States, and the amendment says that citizenship may depend upon birth, and I know of no better way to give rise to citizenship than the fact of birth within the territory of the United States, born of parents who at the time were subject to the authority of the United States.”

Parents who are subject to the authority of the United States, within the meaning of the Fourteenth, owe allegiance to the United States, enjoy political privileges such as voting, and have military service obligations when called upon, which is not the case of parents who are foreign nationals, and especially of foreign nationals who illegally enter the United States who give birth to offspring.

This and several other examples confirm the qualifier “. . . and subject to the jurisdiction thereof . . . “ must exclude from United States Citizenship, the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil. Our very own Supreme Court noted this exclusion in Elk v. Wilkins ___ that the Citizenship Clause’s jurisdictional qualifier means “not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”

Additionally, considering that the 14th Amendment’s Section 5, gives Congress, and only Congress, the exclusive power to adopt “appropriate legislation” to enforce the Amendment, it would be an encroachment upon Congress’s exclusive legislative authority for our Supreme Court members to attach their personal meaning to the Fourteenth Amendment’s qualifier, by which United States Citizenship is granted.

Let us also recall that in 1924 Congress did exercised its exclusive power to enforce the Amendment by appropriate legislation and adopted the “Indian Citizenship Act of 1924”, extending United States citizenship to Indians as outlined in the Act. Since then, there is no “appropriate legislation” to be found under which Congress has extended citizenship, to the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil.

Moving on, it is important to note that under Article 2 of our Constitution, our President gets to exercise administrative policy changes, such as was exercised by Biden when he was President. Not only did President Biden’s Administration allow, but effectively invited, millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, diseased, disabled, criminal, un-vetted terrorist and religious fanatic foreign nationals to flood across our border and settle in various communities where they began to inflict, and to this very day are inflicting, pain and suffering on American citizens and their children.

Keep in mind there is no wording in our Constitution, nor a federal statute, or a Supreme Court ruling, which pronounces that a child born on American soil to an illegal entrant foreign national is a U.S. citizen upon birth. Current public policy, and only “policy” not “law”, now recognizes the offspring of an illegal entrant foreign national born on American soil as a citizen of the United States upon birth.

The policy making authority of our President found in Article 2, is a hallmark of our Republican Form of Government, which also provides for elections in order to accommodate for change of existing public policy.

It seems abundantly clear from the above, that President Trump’s E.O., "Protecting the Meaning and Value of American Citizenship” is not only constitutional, but is specifically designed to effectuate public policy change which an overwhelming number of American citizens voted for when electing President Trump. And thus, our S.C. members must not get involved in this policy making change authority, except to educate the public how our system works, and that elections have consequences, and one of those consequences is the setting new federal public policy which no longer recognizes the offspring of illegal entrant foreign nationals born on American soil, as citizens of the United States upon birth.

JWK

“If aliens might be admitted indiscriminately to enjoy all the rights of citizens at the will of a single state, the Union might itself be endangered by an influx of foreigners, hostile to its institutions, ignorant of its powers, and incapable of a due estimate of its privileges." - Joseph Story
One word: nonsense
 
I would guess that Roberts and the 3 democrats are pro illegal alien


If they ever rule that way, then expect cruise ships full of foreign women who are very pregnant steaming into American territorial waters to give birth to American citizens.

What, we'll sink the ships?
 
Let's remember who and what was Alberto Gonzalez.

Copilot AI
Yes, former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales supported the legal framework that allowed the use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorist suspects during the George W. Bush administration.

As White House Counsel and later as Attorney General, Gonzales played a key role in shaping and defending the legal justifications for these methods. He was involved in reviewing and endorsing memos—such as those from the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel—that narrowly defined torture and argued that certain interrogation techniques did not violate U.S. or international law

These techniques, which included waterboarding, were later widely criticized and are now generally regarded as forms of torture.

Gonzales maintained that these methods were intended for use only in specific, high-stakes situations involving national security threats

His tenure was marked by significant controversy over these policies, contributing to broader debates about human rights and executive power in the post-9/11 era
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IOW, his beliefs may be suspect.
 
This birthright citizenship is not meant for illegals and Chinese tourists coming here, pop out a baby to take advantage. Time to change the law. Even the most liberal European country don't believe in this insanity.
 
Alberto probably has a built in bias toward birthright but how in the world would he know how many votes the Supreme Court has to affirm or deny the concept?
 
15th post
Is that your personal opinion, or do you have supportive documentation from those who authored, and helped to ratify the 14th Amendment?
The supportive documentation comes from the US asserting jurisdiction over all persons in the US apart from diplomats. Or is some other sector of the populace above US law as well?

Do you have supportive documentation that there are classes of persons in the US apart from diplomats over which the US does not have jurisdiction?

I should get into KKK costumes. You guys would have me sold out in a week.
 
Birthright has been recognized in law since 1898.

No reason to change 127 years later, because some white people don't like people of color.

Well apparently now a new dictator is in town, and you're either with him or you're a traitor to the US, because only those who support Trump can ever be classified as "patriots"
 
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