S. 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act

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So medium sized groves that are harvested by illegals and irrigated with their sewer water shouldn't be inspected for safety in the same manner as larger growers?
Anyone selling produce for public consumption should be subjected to stricy inspection standards.
Being in the restaurant industry for almost 30 years it would be really nice if, when I ran out of lettuce, I could run across the street to a produce stand and buy some from them rather than having to order from "an approved food source" at a much higher price.
How comfortable are you going to a restaurant and not being sure of the quality of produce they're using??
How can you be sure that proper temperatures are kept or proper rotation. What chemicals are on it? etc....
Where are those groves right now, doofus?

You could turn one in right now if you knew about it.

You would not need this law.

Go find someone else to justify you raising the prices of your already over priced food, ass hole.
No way of knowing until there is actually an outbreak.
That's the point, dumbass.
I see. Shit can people's businesses because of something that has not happened, and probably never will happen.

You think you are better than us because you want to say it will never happen.
 
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November 30, 2010
Daily Buzz: Senate Approved the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (S.510)
After a year-long battle with small farms, big farms, food establishments and government, a law that is meant to make our food supply safer was finally passed.

That little amendment that could (and did make this possible): A last-minute provision to the bill, which ruled exempt farmers selling less than $500,000 each year (in other words, small farmers) that “directly market to consumers in a 275 mile areas."

What does the act do? CBS has a pretty good list, below:

- Gives the FDA authority to recall contaminated foods. It is currently a voluntary system
- Increases inspections at food facilities. Once every three years for high-risk facilities.
- Requires importers to verify food safety.
- Increases traceability and tracking of high risk foods. Creates a pilot program to increase contamination traceability.
- Allows FDA to access records if there is reasonable probability a food is causing sickness or death in humans or animals.
- Allows FDA to create new standards for the safety of fresh produce.
- FDA can collect fees for non-compliance with recalls or reinspections.
- FDA must form new regulations on safe food transport conditions.
- FDA can allow outside laboratories to conduct third party inspections to ease the load for the FDA.
- Increases funding and staff at FDA.
Daily Buzz: Senate Approved the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (S.510) - Blogs for Women
 

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Wait, do we or don't we want our food supply to be safe and regulated, or just risk the chance of Botulism and food poisoning with rancid meats, tainted cheeses, leaded water, et al...for us.


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Help me out here.

I want to be able to go to the farmer's market and get the freshest foods at great prices. I want to be able to buy fresh green beans and cucumbers from the old vegetable lady that drives her truck through my neighborhood. This will be another government mess. :(
 
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Introduced by Dick Durbin of Illinois, the bill has moved through the usual phases of amalgamation and deal-making. The monstrosity advancing to the floor on Wednesday is not so much "food safety" as it is the decadence of the rights of small farmers, hobbyist food producers, garden-variety farmers markets, and your average small producer of foodstuffs. Under the rubric of safety, this Senate proposes a bill that establishes such new and sweeping powers over how you and I produce and consume foodstuffs that even the Pew Charitable Trusts * are calling S510 a clear and present danger. National Health Freedom says,


It is a dangerously broad regulatory bill giving extensive discretionary power to the FDA over the entire food supply chain without proper checks and balances to avoid abuse of power;


It would impose one-size-fits-all-regulations on thousands of small and mid-sized farmers, small-scale local farms and food producers, and would drastically burden, to extinction, basic natural and organic food suppliers, thus endangering the lives of Americans who depend on local wholesome foods;


It does not reflect a well-thought-out solution, or address the real causes of food safety issues stemming from the industrialized food supply chain; and


It attempts to limit the authority of our own domestic U.S. laws when it includes language ensuring that our US law will not disturb other international agreements that we have made. It states: "Nothing in this Act shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the U.S. is a party."


Lee Bechtel of the National Health Federation, the nation's oldest health-freedom organization, says,


The concern for freedom and health freedom advocates with the legislation, and the NHF's concern, is not because it addresses existing conventional food safety system problems, tainted imported foods, peanut butter... et.al. but because of these non-conventional food safety attempts to expand FDA authority and impose more controls over the marketplace and the access to nutritional foods and supplements.

American Thinker: First Health Care, Next the Food Supply
 

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Where are those groves right now, doofus?

You could turn one in right now if you knew about it.

You would not need this law.

Go find someone else to justify you raising the prices of your already over priced food, ass hole.
No way of knowing until there is actually an outbreak.
That's the point, dumbass.
I see. Shit can people's businesses because of something that has not happened, and probably never will happen.

You think you are better than us because you want to say it will never happen.
Do some research on our recent tomato, jalapeño and chive Salmonella outbreaks.
I don't think I'm better than you, or anyone else.
What will never happen? Our government shrinking our food supply?
That's the same chicken-little shit people screamed when Clinton started HAACP.
Now, because of it, you can feel safe going to your local restaurant knowing that there are safety and sanitation standards in place keeping your food at proper temperature from the time it comes off the truck to the moment it reaches your mouth.
 

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I'm still wondering how wanting food that is safe to eat is a bad thing.

And I wonder if that Revere poster can address a topic without calling other's names because he doesn't agree with them.


This is a good topic for discussion, some of you should try to be a bit more mature about it.


I want to know the pros/cons of this FSMA.
 

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Wait, do we or don't we want our food supply to be safe and regulated, or just risk the chance of Botulism and food poisoning with rancid meats, tainted cheeses, leaded water, et al...for us.


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Help me out here.
We already have the rules in place. This bill does nothing for enforcement. It simply enhances awareness of self policing.
Yes, there is funding for additional inspections.
Our food supply is perhaps the safest in the world.
This is just more central planning.
This bill NEVER passes the House.
 
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Wait, do we or don't we want our food supply to be safe and regulated, or just risk the chance of Botulism and food poisoning with rancid meats, tainted cheeses, leaded water, et al...for us.


:confused:

Help me out here.
We already have the rules in place. This bill does nothing for enforcement. It simply enhances awareness of self policing.
Yes, there is funding for additional inspections.
Our food supply is perhaps the safest in the world.
This is just more central planning.
This bill NEVER passes the House.
Now is the time to shed light on it and question.
 

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We have the best, most regulated food in the world.

More government control, will cost more money from our taxes.
It will increase the cost of doing business, which will increase the cost of food, which will hurt the working poor, and drag the lower middle class down to poor status.

All this will achieve is political points, at best, and unwanted misery for those living on the edge as is.

And what are the countries that can't comply going to do?
 

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We have the best, most regulated food in the world.

More government control, will cost more money from our taxes.
It will increase the cost of doing business, which will increase the cost of food, which will hurt the working poor, and drag the lower middle class down to poor status.

All this will achieve is political points, at best, and unwanted misery for those living on the edge as is.

And what are the countries that can't comply going to do?
With Obama, the trade off is always your poverty and his control.
 
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We have the best, most regulated food in the world.

More government control, will cost more money from our taxes.
It will increase the cost of doing business, which will increase the cost of food, which will hurt the working poor, and drag the lower middle class down to poor status.

All this will achieve is political points, at best, and unwanted misery for those living on the edge as is.

And what are the countries that can't comply going to do?
With Obama, the trade off is always your poverty and his control.
This is much bigger than Obama.
 

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FAO - WHO - WTO - UN - Codex Alimentarius

You Clueless Fools need to study Codex Alimentarius !


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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spoucYXa3-A"]Codex Alimentarius 1 of 4[/ame]

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Without clicking on all the sky-is-falling videos,
Where does the bill make it illegal to grow and share food?
 
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Without clicking on all the sky-is-falling videos,
Where does the bill make it illegal to grow and share food?
The one thing I noticed in the Bill is the Benchmark is way too low at $500.000.00. Thats nothing in relation to what's involved with growing. how about 5 Million, or 15 million, for starters. I'm sure there are many reasonable controls in the Bill, the question is where is the line to be drawn, in fairness. What is realistic expectation, and what is by design, a function to oppress and shut down small Agriculture? What in the Bill is hurtful by design? Why is it there?
 

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We have the best, most regulated food in the world.

More government control, will cost more money from our taxes.
It will increase the cost of doing business, which will increase the cost of food, which will hurt the working poor, and drag the lower middle class down to poor status.

All this will achieve is political points, at best, and unwanted misery for those living on the edge as is.

And what are the countries that can't comply going to do?
With Obama, the trade off is always your poverty and his control.
This is much bigger than Obama.
Obama is a puppet, the front man for the real power behind all this.

Soros and his cadre of people that want nothing less than a socialist world that is totally reliant on the power elite.
 

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My assessment: yet another program aimed at benefiting Big Government Cronies by making it far too expensive to run a small business.

There is no big epidemic of Americans being made ill or dying from tainted food.
 
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My assessment: yet another program aimed at benefiting Big Government Cronies by making it far too expensive to run a small business.

There is no big epidemic of Americans being made ill or dying from tainted food.
It would also seem that the biggest problems come from the Mega Farms and producers. There are things I try to avoid when I can, irradiated food, genetically altered food, the stuff isn't even labeled. Fuck State Capitalism.
 

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