Russia: We must have veto power over Ukraine security guarantees

[candycorn]

It’s an ongoing process...

That would have been an intelligent analysis. But that isn't what your blob said.

He said he'd have it done before he took office.

Do try to keep up.

 

[Orangecat]

That would have been an intelligent analysis. But that isn't what your blob said.
He said he'd have it done before he took office.
Do try to keep up.

A: I don't own a blob.
B: Are you such a simpleton as to not realize that campaign promises reflect what the candidate will attempt?

 

[candycorn]

A: I don't own a blob.

Nope but you vote for one

B: Are you such a simpleton as to not realize that campaign promises reflect what the candidate will attempt?

Nobody fulfills all of their campaign promises but few candidates, before your blob, just told pie-in-the-sky lies such as ending a war before they take office.

So you are saying your blob didn't lie? Put another way...did you believe him...are you that much of a simpleton?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Orange Cat is a simple as Independent thinker, and that is simplistic, oh, yes.

 

[Orangecat]

Nope but you vote for one
Nobody fulfills all of their campaign promises but few candidates, before your blob, just told pie-in-the-sky lies such as ending a war before they take office.

So you are saying your blob didn't lie? Put another way...did you believe him...are you that much of a simpleton?

I’d feel sorry for you for being so stupid if you weren’t such an asshole.

 

[Litwin]

Orange Cat is a simple as Independent thinker, and that is simplistic, oh, yes.

 

[the watcher]

I think it would work. We give Israel our veto power and you can see how well that works.

 

[Correll]

I’d feel sorry for you for being so stupid if you weren’t such an asshole.

I've admitted that MAGA was overly optimistic about how reasonable PUtin was.


But beyond that, what is the whining about?


THe dems won. So far the war is continuing, the arms are flowing, teh russians are dying.


Moving forward, I still want to see the dying stop and Trump is trying.


THe dems still want to see the dying CONTINUE, and they oppose him.


So, we have a conflict. But harping on the one day thing is dems being retarded.

 

[Seymour Flops]

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Opening gambit: Is Russian prepared to give up all the land it has conquered including the Crimea in return for this agreement?

No.

Best that can be hoped for is that Russia give up some of the land. They will demand that some of the conquered land in Ukraine be ceded to them permanently, and that the Crimea be officially declared Russian territory.

Insisting that "every square inch" be returned to Ukraine is saying "let the war last forever," without saying
"let the war last forever."

We have to make up our mind: Make a deal with Russia, make war on Russia, or leave it to Europe to figure out.

 

[JWBooth]

I've admitted that MAGA was overly optimistic about how reasonable PUtin was.


But beyond that, what is the whining about?


THe dems won. So far the war is continuing, the arms are flowing, teh russians are dying.


Moving forward, I still want to see the dying stop and Trump is trying.


THe dems still want to see the dying CONTINUE, and they oppose him.


So, we have a conflict. But harping on the one day thing is dems being retarded.

Not over optimistic, unrealistic. The hubrus is strong with those that think Russia will even slightly alter it's initial aims.

 

[JWBooth]

No.

Best that can be hoped for is that Russia give up some of the land. They will demand that some of the conquered land in Ukraine be ceded to them permanently, and that the Crimea be officially declared Russian territory.

Insisting that "every square inch" be returned to Ukraine is saying "let the war last forever," without saying
"let the war last forever."

We have to make up our mind: Make a deal with Russia, make war on Russia, or leave it to Europe to figure out.

We've been making war on Russia, albeit through a proxy that wouldn't have lasted six months without non stop weapons shipments and intellegence from the US.

 

[Correll]

Not over optimistic, unrealistic. The hubrus is strong with those that think Russia will even slightly alter it's initial aims.

The damage that PUtin is doing to Russia is real. And will never be overcome. He is undermining his own power.

I thought he could see that. I overestimated him.

My bad.

So,, whatever. I still want Trump to try.


Until then, the war continues.

 

[Seymour Flops]

We've been making war on Russia, albeit through a proxy that wouldn't have lasted six months without non stop weapons shipments and intellegence from the US.

Correct, we have taken the worst option.

 

[Orangecat]

So, we have a conflict. But harping on the one day thing is dems being retarded.

It shows how little they really have to ***** about. Every mole hill is a mountain.

 

[GLASNOST]

Russia will only agree to security guarantees for Ukraine if it has the power to veto them

Of course
Russia hasn't moved towards NATO. It is NATO that has moved towards Russia and by its clear provocation threatens an attack on Russia. Russia should - MUST - have the dominant power over security in the region.

 

[Ringo]

 

[GLASNOST]

... western Ukranian nazis not conscripted into the military, but Russian speakers in Odessa are....

Is this true?

 

[Blaster]

Of course
Russia hasn't moved towards NATO. It is NATO that has moved towards Russia and by its clear provocation threatens an attack on Russia. Russia should - MUST - have the dominant power over security in the region.

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[Ringo]

 

[Deadstick]

There has been a lot of talk about about peacekeepers after the war is over, i have a good idea send North Korean and Chinese peacekeepers, the fact is Zelensky can't do any deal that doesn't include the Donbass and Crimea being taken back, the former head of the Right Sector in Odessa where they burned and beat people alive in the trade Union building, he is the bastard the West want to take over from Zelensky he has said if that isn't the case Zelensky will be a dead man they will kill him.