Russia is basically at war with NATO

[22lcidw]

The globalists are pushing this to the extremes. They purposely added new NATO nations the last few years. They want total power, and Russia is in the way along with China. A dangerous game.

 

[MisterBeale]

That is true, but once he is dead, they'll have to chose to continue to war against the West, or maybe come to the table.

Zelensky will be deposed or killed first, and Russia will win the war.

Western Media is giving you a false picture of how this war is going.

The number of exchanged dead is all you need to see to understand the truth of the situation

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[Mac-7]

Why would he be desperate? he is winning the front is in a state of collapse.

I dont believe anything the russians tell us and about 50% coming from the ukraines

 

[Deadstick]

I dont believe anything the russians tell us and about 50% coming from the ukraines

So don't believe it, you will look silly when the front is in total collapse, i don't think that will be long.

 

[Mac-7]

So don't believe it, you will look silly when the front is in total collapse, i don't think that will be long.

I’ll take my chances

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It this western propaganda is true, there is an easy solution to this.

If European governments and the IC stop propping up the Banderastan, Russia would stop hybrid war.

Only a tool would not believe there is hybrid war being perpetrated by the west on Russia.

Yellow Yalies Yelling

Ever since 1985, the Cold War Chickenhawks have never let the Cold War end. Wall Street doesn't pay peace dividends.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Regime change?

Putin is up there in years. He'll be dead soon enough.

What I oppose is the US getting deeply involved in European security. That is why NATO was invented.

We'll back them in a hot war, but I don't care if they have to face a little hardship to put an end to Putin. If they do, then they really are NOT allies of the USA.

Need American Troops Only

 

[Deadstick]

Russia's take on the alleged airspace violation with Estonia.


MOSCOW, September 20. /TASS/. Three Russian MiG-31 jets carried out a scheduled flight from Karelia to the Kaliningrad Region without violating Estonian airspace, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.

"On September 19, three Russian MiG-31 fighter jets made a scheduled flight from Karelia to an airfield in the Kaliningrad Region. The flight was conducted in strict accordance with international airspace rules, without violating the borders of other states, which is confirmed by objective monitoring. During the flight, the Russian aircraft did not deviate from the agreed flight path and did not violate Estonian airspace. The aircraft's flight path lay over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea, more than three kilometers from the island of Vaindloo," the statement said.

 

[Deadstick]

I’ll take my chances

You can afford to your arse isn't freezing in a trench.

 

[sparky]

we really should reconsider getting involved in no win scenarios.......~S~

 

[whitehall]

Brit "intelligence" was once top of the line when FDR didn't have a freaking clue prior to WW2. What the hell happened?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Russia is basically at war with NATO​

And why not? NATO has been at war with Russia via the Ukronazi proxy since 2014.

Zelenskyy needs to be given the Diem treatment and then, maybe, this thing can be wrapped up.

Has it? No, had Russia not invaded the Ukraine, the West wouldn't have been doing anything. What things do you think the West is doing to sabotage Russia?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Need American Troops Only

When the US went into Afghanistan, it didn't worry about where the troops came from, did it? Took NATO troops for a non-NATO mission (NATO is about defense).

 

[BothWings]

Well, NATO has violated a number of agreements with Russia over the past 30 years.

THAT does NOT justify invading Ukraine, but I agree that this is a European war. They need only stop buying Russian energy TODAY, NOT IN TWO YEARS and cut off his ability to fund this war.

If Russia had not invaded Ukraine, Ukraine would have been slowly militarized against Russia until Russia was pushed off the world stage and the West controlled Ukrainian resources. Russia invaded to prevent the inevitable.

 

[AZrailwhale]

If Russia had not invaded Ukraine, Ukraine would have been slowly militarized against Russia until Russia was pushed off the world stage and the West controlled Ukrainian resources. Russia invaded to prevent the inevitable.

That's a bunch of crap and you know it. Ukraine was beefing up its military because of multiple cases of Russian aggression, not only against Ukraine, but against Georgia and Russia's other neighbors. That is why the various SSRs and Warsaw Pact members as well as Sweden and Finland joined NATO for mutual protection from Russian aggression. Russia pushed itself off the world stage by allowing the hundreds of native Russian kleptocrats to take over its economy and loot it. When communism fell, Russia had everything going for it, western companies were falling all over themselves to invest in Russia, the West was more than happy to offer Russia economic aid and modern technology. Russia threw it all away by allowing the corruption epidemic under communism to not only continue but expand.

 

[Deadstick]

Has it? No, had Russia not invaded the Ukraine, the West wouldn't have been doing anything. What things do you think the West is doing to sabotage Russia?

Wouldn't be doing anything? it is because they were doing something there is a war right now, they have been sticking their nose into Ukraine since the end of WW2 when they supported former Banderite terrorists with intel and weapons, and they did something in 2014 when they instigated a Coup that overthrew the elected Government, what do you mean not doing anything.?

 

[sartre play]

Not finding any post on what Russia is doing in the Artic.
This seems to be a Very bad deal for America.. Any one have some info in this area?

 

[Ringo]

Moscow immediately responded to Japan's provocation near the Kuril Islands. This was noted by the Sohu publication, according to Russian Public Television.
Chinese analysts pointed out that Japan, together with the US, deployed Typhon medium-range missile systems near the Kuril Islands and immediately received a proportionate response from Russia
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In particular, the article states that Moscow quickly deployed the Bastion missile system in the Kuril Islands, transferred fighter jets from the Arctic, and brought the Pacific Fleet to combat readiness. In addition, the fleet's submarines launched cruise missiles in the Sea of Okhotsk.

Chinese analysts assessed these actions as a demonstration that Russia will adhere to the principle of “an eye for an eye.” In their opinion, President Vladimir Putin has made it clear what the consequences of further militarization could be.

Earlier it was reported that the deployment of Typhon missile systems at a US military base in Japan could be the beginning of the creation of a new advanced US missile line near Russia's borders. Military expert Alexei Leonkov said that such a threat could be real if a large number of systems of this type were deployed.

 

[martybegan]

My hunch is that Putin wants to instill as much doubt as possible into NATO’s commitment to mutual defense by NATO partners.

Putin is willing to take huge risks by taking his insane chances. It’s a probe: are NATO members really willing to confront a nuclear war over “Estonia” for example.

The thing is we have learned what happens when Russia is allowed to create a wall of buffer States around itself.

Poland and the Baltic States are some of our staunchest allies. While I don't want WWIII, letting Russia take any territory from any of them isn't acceptable either.

 

[Hafar1014]

Russia cant defeat Ukraine they would last two weeks against NATO. Putin becomes more violent as his back is pushed to the wall. He cant win the fight, his economy is failing, more pressure is being applied to his oil and LNG exports. His response is more violence and provocation. Its a bluff. We need to sanction his weak economy into a total failure