Russia gets 200 new aircrafts in 2015, 55 Stealth fighters in 2016-2020

[Bleipriester]

Russia is going to modernize and raise its airforce.

Russian Air Force And Navy To Receive 200 New Aircraft In 2015 More Than Most World Air Forces Have
Russia Will Have 55 Stealth Sukhoi T-50 Fighters By 2020 But Are They As Good As The US Stealth Jets

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Air force modernization among 2nd tier nations is a long-standing problem facing the US and our allies. As time goes foward, so does technology and the aquisition of advanced fighters by countries we don't necessarily invite to Christmas parties.

One of the bigger problems being much of the US fighter inventory is made up of designs many decades old only still in service due to modernization upgrades. While some remain in service being the best suited to their tasks like the A-10 others wont be able to compete against newer designs being deployed even now for much longer.

 

[Bleipriester]

Air force modernization among 2nd tier nations is a long-standing problem facing the US and our allies. As time goes foward, so does technology and the aquisition of advanced fighters by countries we don't necessarily invite to Christmas parties.

One of the bigger problems being much of the US fighter inventory is made up of designs many decades old only still in service due to modernization upgrades. While some remain in service being the best suited to their tasks like the A-10 others wont be able to compete against newer designs being deployed even now for much longer.

And the USAF has to deal with the F-35 Lighting II, that is a failure in many people´s opinion. That replacement for the old planes makes it just worse.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Air force modernization among 2nd tier nations is a long-standing problem facing the US and our allies. As time goes foward, so does technology and the aquisition of advanced fighters by countries we don't necessarily invite to Christmas parties.

One of the bigger problems being much of the US fighter inventory is made up of designs many decades old only still in service due to modernization upgrades. While some remain in service being the best suited to their tasks like the A-10 others wont be able to compete against newer designs being deployed even now for much longer.

And the USAF has to deal with the F-35 Lighting II, that is a failure in many people´s opinion. That replacement for the old planes makes it just worse.

$1.5 trillion (with a 'T') for that pos over 10 years.

 

[Moonglow]

How many Ruskie aircraft tech's will go blind drinking the de-icing fluid for a buzz??

Reports from nations buying Russian aircraft is that they are not up to snuff and parts are hard to get...

 

[Bleipriester]

How many Ruskie aircraft tech's will go blind drinking the de-icing fluid for a buzz??

Reports from nations buying Russian aircraft is that they are not up to snuff and parts are hard to get...

Russia´s airforce is very good. It´s aircrafts beat the USAF in the Vietnam war e.g. and the US would make a deciding mistake by underestimating the Russian airforce.
Post World War II air-to-air combat losses - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Bleipriester]

Air force modernization among 2nd tier nations is a long-standing problem facing the US and our allies. As time goes foward, so does technology and the aquisition of advanced fighters by countries we don't necessarily invite to Christmas parties.

One of the bigger problems being much of the US fighter inventory is made up of designs many decades old only still in service due to modernization upgrades. While some remain in service being the best suited to their tasks like the A-10 others wont be able to compete against newer designs being deployed even now for much longer.

And the USAF has to deal with the F-35 Lighting II, that is a failure in many people´s opinion. That replacement for the old planes makes it just worse.

$1.5 trillion (with a 'T') for that pos over 10 years.

You mean just for the development of the Lighting II?

 

[Moonglow]

How many Ruskie aircraft tech's will go blind drinking the de-icing fluid for a buzz??

Reports from nations buying Russian aircraft is that they are not up to snuff and parts are hard to get...

Russia´s airforce is very good. It´s aircrafts beat the USAF in the Vietnam war e.g. and the US would make a deciding mistake by underestimating the Russian airforce.
Post World War II air-to-air combat losses - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I am not that hot on aircraft from Russia since I study their abilities to manufacture and maintain a high tech air force which has not proved itself in over 40 years...

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Air force modernization among 2nd tier nations is a long-standing problem facing the US and our allies. As time goes foward, so does technology and the aquisition of advanced fighters by countries we don't necessarily invite to Christmas parties.

One of the bigger problems being much of the US fighter inventory is made up of designs many decades old only still in service due to modernization upgrades. While some remain in service being the best suited to their tasks like the A-10 others wont be able to compete against newer designs being deployed even now for much longer.

And the USAF has to deal with the F-35 Lighting II, that is a failure in many people´s opinion. That replacement for the old planes makes it just worse.

$1.5 trillion (with a 'T') for that pos over 10 years.

You mean just for the development of the Lighting II?

"The United States Navy is simply not into the F-35 Stealth Fighter manufactured by Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT). The fighter is beautiful crafted aircraft, so why is the Navy not attracted?

The F-22 Raptor stealth fighter and the F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters are now active in the United States Air Force, Marine Corp. and Navy. The United States military has bragging rights of having the largest fleet of fifth generation stealth jets around the globe. But these bragging right may be premature and short lived.

The F-22 stopped production in 2012, but there is still a line for thousands of F035s to be made and awaiting purchase. The Pentagon plans to purchase over 2,400 F035 for all branches of the armed forces, from Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT). This program can cost upwards to 1.5 trillion dollars.

One problem is that the F-35s is only stealth when the aircraft is not full. When filled to capacity, the F-35 can carry about 3,000 pounds and an addition 15,000 pounds on the winds, but this extra weight makes the aircraft vulnerable to radar. To be fully stealth, the craft can only be loaded with weapons that are 17% of the full capacity and this is a huge problem for the Navy.

The Pentagon says that the next step may not include any stealths.

Jon Greenert, the chief of naval operations was quoted in saying that stealth may be overrated and not worth the expense of 1.5 trillion dollars. He continued to say that stealth is not the same as invisible because if something generates heat when disrupting molecules in the air, it will be detected.

China already has technology that can detect F-35s from a distance ranging between 240 and 360 miles. If this is true, then any advantage that stealth technology had is now voided.

This lack of enthusiasm from the United States Navy could have Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT) facing a drop in revenue, to the tune of a 9.2 billion dollar loss."
Lockheed Martin Corporation NYSE LMT Loses Navy Attention

 

[Moonglow]

Air force modernization among 2nd tier nations is a long-standing problem facing the US and our allies. As time goes foward, so does technology and the aquisition of advanced fighters by countries we don't necessarily invite to Christmas parties.

One of the bigger problems being much of the US fighter inventory is made up of designs many decades old only still in service due to modernization upgrades. While some remain in service being the best suited to their tasks like the A-10 others wont be able to compete against newer designs being deployed even now for much longer.

And the USAF has to deal with the F-35 Lighting II, that is a failure in many people´s opinion. That replacement for the old planes makes it just worse.

$1.5 trillion (with a 'T') for that pos over 10 years.

You mean just for the development of the Lighting II?

"The United States Navy is simply not into the F-35 Stealth Fighter manufactured by Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT). The fighter is beautiful crafted aircraft, so why is the Navy not attracted?

The F-22 Raptor stealth fighter and the F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters are now active in the United States Air Force, Marine Corp. and Navy. The United States military has bragging rights of having the largest fleet of fifth generation stealth jets around the globe. But these bragging right may be premature and short lived.

The F-22 stopped production in 2012, but there is still a line for thousands of F035s to be made and awaiting purchase. The Pentagon plans to purchase over 2,400 F035 for all branches of the armed forces, from Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT). This program can cost upwards to 1.5 trillion dollars.

One problem is that the F-35s is only stealth when the aircraft is not full. When filled to capacity, the F-35 can carry about 3,000 pounds and an addition 15,000 pounds on the winds, but this extra weight makes the aircraft vulnerable to radar. To be fully stealth, the craft can only be loaded with weapons that are 17% of the full capacity and this is a huge problem for the Navy.

The Pentagon says that the next step may not include any stealths.

Jon Greenert, the chief of naval operations was quoted in saying that stealth may be overrated and not worth the expense of 1.5 trillion dollars. He continued to say that stealth is not the same as invisible because if something generates heat when disrupting molecules in the air, it will be detected.

China already has technology that can detect F-35s from a distance ranging between 240 and 360 miles. If this is true, then any advantage that stealth technology had is now voided.

This lack of enthusiasm from the United States Navy could have Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT) facing a drop in revenue, to the tune of a 9.2 billion dollar loss."
Lockheed Martin Corporation NYSE LMT Loses Navy Attention

It's the sequestration that is inhibiting more fighters.....
I doubt that the Ruskies can afford to spend so much since they are having a hard time paying their public employees....

 

[Swagger]

Russian technology has proven to be as reliable as Lebanese whisky. These "cutting edge" 'aircraft' have most likely been built from parts cannibalized from an older fleet. Besides, Russia is a nation of gypsies and horse thieves, so any aircraft they've produced - with a few exceptions - will most likely fall from the sky after their wooden airframes have been undermined by woodworm.

 

[Bleipriester]

Air force modernization among 2nd tier nations is a long-standing problem facing the US and our allies. As time goes foward, so does technology and the aquisition of advanced fighters by countries we don't necessarily invite to Christmas parties.

One of the bigger problems being much of the US fighter inventory is made up of designs many decades old only still in service due to modernization upgrades. While some remain in service being the best suited to their tasks like the A-10 others wont be able to compete against newer designs being deployed even now for much longer.

And the USAF has to deal with the F-35 Lighting II, that is a failure in many people´s opinion. That replacement for the old planes makes it just worse.

$1.5 trillion (with a 'T') for that pos over 10 years.

You mean just for the development of the Lighting II?

"The United States Navy is simply not into the F-35 Stealth Fighter manufactured by Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT). The fighter is beautiful crafted aircraft, so why is the Navy not attracted?

The F-22 Raptor stealth fighter and the F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters are now active in the United States Air Force, Marine Corp. and Navy. The United States military has bragging rights of having the largest fleet of fifth generation stealth jets around the globe. But these bragging right may be premature and short lived.

The F-22 stopped production in 2012, but there is still a line for thousands of F035s to be made and awaiting purchase. The Pentagon plans to purchase over 2,400 F035 for all branches of the armed forces, from Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT). This program can cost upwards to 1.5 trillion dollars.

One problem is that the F-35s is only stealth when the aircraft is not full. When filled to capacity, the F-35 can carry about 3,000 pounds and an addition 15,000 pounds on the winds, but this extra weight makes the aircraft vulnerable to radar. To be fully stealth, the craft can only be loaded with weapons that are 17% of the full capacity and this is a huge problem for the Navy.

The Pentagon says that the next step may not include any stealths.

Jon Greenert, the chief of naval operations was quoted in saying that stealth may be overrated and not worth the expense of 1.5 trillion dollars. He continued to say that stealth is not the same as invisible because if something generates heat when disrupting molecules in the air, it will be detected.

China already has technology that can detect F-35s from a distance ranging between 240 and 360 miles. If this is true, then any advantage that stealth technology had is now voided.

This lack of enthusiasm from the United States Navy could have Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE:LMT) facing a drop in revenue, to the tune of a 9.2 billion dollar loss."
Lockheed Martin Corporation NYSE LMT Loses Navy Attention

It's the sequestration that is inhibiting more fighters.....
I doubt that the Ruskies can afford to spend so much since they are having a hard time paying their public employees....

The modernization of the Russian forces is not limited to the airforce. Russia will not change anything just because the West, especially Europe, is overestimating its own strength and it is the right thing to do. Western support for Nazi murderers in Ukraine led to the current situation that weakens Russia´s economy. The West´s Nazi murderers overthrew the legitimate government in Ukraine just like the West´s terrorist murderers try to overthrow Syria´s legitimate government.

 

[Moonglow]

Russia does the same and the US always supports Russian enemies....

 

[Bleipriester]

Russia does the same and the US always supports Russian enemies....

Russia´s reactions to that match with the will of the people. The Crimea people are happy to be part of Russia now and the Donetsk People´s Republic is the result of efforts by the people who live there and don´t accept the puppet regime in Kiev, not a Russian invention.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Russia is going to modernize and raise its airforce.

Russian Air Force And Navy To Receive 200 New Aircraft In 2015 More Than Most World Air Forces Have
Russia Will Have 55 Stealth Sukhoi T-50 Fighters By 2020 But Are They As Good As The US Stealth Jets

The problem you have with this report, it's 2 years old and didn't come true. As it stands now, the bulk of the fighters produced are the SU-30 variants. While it's a pretty good bird and seasoned, it has problems with the new 5th gen fighters and bomber. It's pretty much equal to a F-15C. That means, the F-15E is slightly better overall. They are also producing a bunch of Mig-29 variants that are not quite as good as newest F-16. While the SU-27/30 and the Mig-29 did get some badly needed upgrades, so did the F-15 and the F-16. But none of these can hold a candle to the F-22/35 combo.

Now, we are talking about TODAY not two years ago.

 

[rightwinger]

Targets

 

[Bleipriester]

Russia is going to modernize and raise its airforce.

Russian Air Force And Navy To Receive 200 New Aircraft In 2015 More Than Most World Air Forces Have
Russia Will Have 55 Stealth Sukhoi T-50 Fighters By 2020 But Are They As Good As The US Stealth Jets

The problem you have with this report, it's 2 years old and didn't come true. As it stands now, the bulk of the fighters produced are the SU-30 variants. While it's a pretty good bird and seasoned, it has problems with the new 5th gen fighters and bomber. It's pretty much equal to a F-15C. That means, the F-15E is slightly better overall. They are also producing a bunch of Mig-29 variants that are not quite as good as newest F-16. While the SU-27/30 and the Mig-29 did get some badly needed upgrades, so did the F-15 and the F-16. But none of these can hold a candle to the F-22/35 combo.

Now, we are talking about TODAY not two years ago.

The thread is also two and a half years old. And what exactly didn´t come true? Since it is not 2020 the question is serious.

 

[DrainBamage]

The thread is also two and a half years old. And what exactly didn´t come true? Since it is not 2020 the question is serious.

Their predictions of 55 SU-57s by 2020 isn't going to come true.

Russia to complete R&D work on 5th-generation fighter jet in 2019
ZHUKOVSKY (Moscow Region), July 19. /TASS/. The research and development work on Russia’s PAK FA fighter jet (T-50) will be completed in 2019, United Aircraft Corporation Chief Yuri Slyusar said at the MAKS-2017 international airshow on Wednesday. "In 2019, we should begin the delivery of a pre-production batch of [T-50] planes. This is the year when we should complete the R&D work on the PAK FA," he said.

If you think they are going from delivery of a pre-production batch in 2019 to having 55 real warfighting aircraft by 2020 I've got a bridge to Moscow to sell you. Then again you're the clown who fell for the fake Iranian model jet, so who knows. I'd be surprised if they had that many production aircraft by 2025.

 

[Bleipriester]

The thread is also two and a half years old. And what exactly didn´t come true? Since it is not 2020 the question is serious.

Their predictions of 55 SU-57s by 2020 isn't going to come true.

Russia to complete R&D work on 5th-generation fighter jet in 2019
ZHUKOVSKY (Moscow Region), July 19. /TASS/. The research and development work on Russia’s PAK FA fighter jet (T-50) will be completed in 2019, United Aircraft Corporation Chief Yuri Slyusar said at the MAKS-2017 international airshow on Wednesday. "In 2019, we should begin the delivery of a pre-production batch of [T-50] planes. This is the year when we should complete the R&D work on the PAK FA," he said.

If you think they are going from delivery of a pre-production batch in 2019 to having 55 real warfighting aircraft by 2020 I've got a bridge to Moscow to sell you. Then again you're the clown who fell for the fake Iranian model jet, so who knows. I'd be surprised if they had that many production aircraft by 2025.

I thought its thousand, dumbass.

 

[DrainBamage]

I thought its thousand, dumbass.

It was in 2011, then the Russian economy tanked and they encountered endless delays and technical issues trying to build this stealth fighter.

So here you are thinking that despite latest plans for pre-production delivery in 2019 they'll magically produce 55 by 20202. Derp.