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Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
No, A midsize city in California would displace all of the votes in North Dakota and South Dakota and Wyoming. So basically people that more likely never step foot in South Dakota, Wyoming, North Dakota would control those states. No, the popular vote is mob rule, do small states zero good.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
False. Instead of three or four electoral votes they'd have three-quarters of a milliion or however many voters they have.
And they'd have more OF them because finally everybody's vote would count.
Fact.
I see you ran away to post ipse dixit when I spanked your ass on this same point in the previous thread.
I'll do it again too.
No, A midsize city in California would displace all of the votes in North Dakota and South Dakota and Wyoming. So basically people that more likely never step foot in South Dakota, Wyoming, North Dakota would control those states. No, the popular vote is mob rule, do small states zero good.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
False. Instead of three or four electoral votes they'd have three-quarters of a milliion or however many voters they have.
And they'd have more OF them because finally everybody's vote would count.
Fact.
I see you ran away to post ipse dixit when I spanked your ass on this same point in the previous thread.
I'll do it again too.
You need to take a government class
There is no better way for a small state like I live in to represent itself than the EC. FactNo, A midsize city in California would displace all of the votes in North Dakota and South Dakota and Wyoming. So basically people that more likely never step foot in South Dakota, Wyoming, North Dakota would control those states. No, the popular vote is mob rule, do small states zero good.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
False. Instead of three or four electoral votes they'd have three-quarters of a milliion or however many voters they have.
And they'd have more OF them because finally everybody's vote would count.
Fact.
I see you ran away to post ipse dixit when I spanked your ass on this same point in the previous thread.
I'll do it again too.
You need to take a government class
And as I told you at the last spanking, PV is ALREADY how you elect your Governor, your Senators, your Congresscritters, your mayor or city council ---- everything except President.
That "mob rule"?
The fact is everybody in the country deserves a say in who runs it, just as everybody in your state does. And when your state elects its governor it's going to see more votes from Big Ass City than from East Jipip.
Like it or lump it.
Rural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
We won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
Best of luck to youWe won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
The coal mining jobs are for sure thing, they were all shut down by Executive Order By Barry. Trump will reverse all of thatBest of luck to youWe won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
We won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
As the Republican president-elect late this week began assembling a cabinet and administration to take office in early January, he still trailed Democrat Hillary Clinton in the national vote by more than 233,000 votes, roughly 59.9 million to 59.7 million. Clinton's edge could become even larger because votes are still being counted in states she won. But in the Electoral College -- the only count that matters in U.S. presidential elections – the blunt-spoken real estate mogul is ahead, 290 to 228 with the winner still to be determined in two states. The final result could favor Trump by as much as 306-232 edge. Trump's election as the country's 45th president won't change no matter how far ahead Clinton, a former U.S. secretary of state, might pull in the popular vote because of the Electoral College, the system the country's founding fathers devised more than two centuries ago to elect presidents.
In essence, U.S. presidential elections are contested separately in each of the 50 states with the winner in each state getting all of that state’s Electoral College votes. Those, in turn, are apportioned roughly according to the population of each state, giving the most populous states a huge say in who becomes president. California, for example, has 55 electoral votes, while seven small states and the national capital – which is not part of any state – have just three votes apiece. With each state-by-state winner claiming all of its electoral votes, the difference between the Electoral College result and the popular vote can quickly become skewed, as occurred in the Trump-Clinton contest.
In Tuesday’s election, Trump won the Electoral College by achieving narrow wins in several large states that had previously voted for President Obama, including Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio. Clinton ran ahead of him in the popular vote by running up much larger margins in states like New York and California. It is only the fourth time in U.S. history that a candidate has been elected as president without winning the popular vote, and only the second time since 1888. President George W. Bush, also a Republican, won the Electoral College in 2000 even though Vice President Al Gore received some 539,000 more votes. This year, as in 2000, the outcome has angered members of the losing party and sparked demands for the system to be changed. One petition to that effect has received more than 240,000 signatures since the result of Tuesday’s election became known.
Even Trump, the beneficiary of the system this year, protested vociferously in 2012 when early returns made it appear – incorrectly – that losing Republican candidate Mitt Romney had lost the Electoral College while amassing more votes than President Barack Obama. “The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy,” Trump said in one tweet. In another, he said, “We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!” To change the system, however, would require an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a slow and difficult process requiring large majorities in Congress and among the individual states. In any event, Republicans, who now control both the White House and Congress, have no incentive to seek a change.
Has Electoral College outlived usefulness?
You must be drunk. Unless maybe Trump will attack oil, natural gas, and other energy industries to artificially increase the demand for coal. He does seem to be a fan of artificial controls after all.The coal mining jobs are for sure thing, they were all shut down by Executive Order By Barry. Trump will reverse all of thatBest of luck to youWe won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
I have been self-employed for over 20 years, people that buy products from me mainly are military, police and firemen along with coal and oil workers…We won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
Just as well --- they don't carry history books, which is obviously what you need.
No, he will not be using the EPA to control anything, he actually has a spine. LolYou must be drunk. Unless maybe Trump will attack oil, natural gas, and other energy industries to artificially increase the demand for coal. He does seem to be a fan of artificial controls after all.The coal mining jobs are for sure thing, they were all shut down by Executive Order By Barry. Trump will reverse all of thatBest of luck to youWe won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.Without the Electoral college small states would have no representation in national elections… fact
Yeah I heard he'll be getting rid of the EPA. Too bad that won't magically increase any demand for coal.No, he will not be using the EPA to control anything, he actually has a spine. LolYou must be drunk. Unless maybe Trump will attack oil, natural gas, and other energy industries to artificially increase the demand for coal. He does seem to be a fan of artificial controls after all.The coal mining jobs are for sure thing, they were all shut down by Executive Order By Barry. Trump will reverse all of thatBest of luck to youWe won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank GodRural states won't be getting any jobs back, and now things will be more expensive for you at Wal-Mart. Good job.
Actually up here it would, the only way to get power between towns up here is coal.Yeah I heard he'll be getting rid of the EPA. Too bad that won't magically increase any demand for coal.No, he will not be using the EPA to control anything, he actually has a spine. LolYou must be drunk. Unless maybe Trump will attack oil, natural gas, and other energy industries to artificially increase the demand for coal. He does seem to be a fan of artificial controls after all.The coal mining jobs are for sure thing, they were all shut down by Executive Order By Barry. Trump will reverse all of thatBest of luck to youWe won't have to worry about jobs in my area once we get the coal mining and oil drilling up and going again. Those are all six-figure incomes. By the way we don't have a Walmart anywhere near here Thank God
Hmm it seems you have power right now. I guess your demand is satisfied. Maybe you could volunteer to pay more so that jobs will magically come back to your barely populated state.Actually up here it would, the only way to get power between towns up here is coal.Yeah I heard he'll be getting rid of the EPA. Too bad that won't magically increase any demand for coal.No, he will not be using the EPA to control anything, he actually has a spine. LolYou must be drunk. Unless maybe Trump will attack oil, natural gas, and other energy industries to artificially increase the demand for coal. He does seem to be a fan of artificial controls after all.The coal mining jobs are for sure thing, they were all shut down by Executive Order By Barry. Trump will reverse all of thatBest of luck to you
Oil and coal are the only sources of Power up here in the Dakotas and Wyoming...
Renewable energy has never worked up here long term, far too unreliable
We have power thanks to Coal, The most reliable of power sources. They are already starting to rehire the people they had to lay off because of Jack ass EPA shit.Hmm it seems you have power right now. I guess your demand is satisfied. Maybe you could volunteer to pay more so that jobs will magically come back to your barely populated state.Actually up here it would, the only way to get power between towns up here is coal.Yeah I heard he'll be getting rid of the EPA. Too bad that won't magically increase any demand for coal.No, he will not be using the EPA to control anything, he actually has a spine. LolYou must be drunk. Unless maybe Trump will attack oil, natural gas, and other energy industries to artificially increase the demand for coal. He does seem to be a fan of artificial controls after all.The coal mining jobs are for sure thing, they were all shut down by Executive Order By Barry. Trump will reverse all of that
Oil and coal are the only sources of Power up here in the Dakotas and Wyoming...
Renewable energy has never worked up here long term, far too unreliable