Rudy's setting up the next phase if the denial.

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Rudy Guiliani now claims he never said the tRump campaign didn't donsoire with Russia, only that the president didn't.

So the next phase is "yes it happened but tRump didn't do it"

But by bit, closer and closer, the walls are closing in on tRump.

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Rudy (Trump's lawyer) is now saying that there WAS collusion...but supposedly Trump didn't know.

The bullshit is evolving
 
Guiliani is saying that, if you define the "Trump Campaign" broadly, including both formal and informal advisors, paid and unpaid staff, there is no conceivable way to ascertain whether ANY OF THEM had ANY COMMUNICATION with anyone even remotely connected to "Russia," in a manner that COULD BE CONSTRUED as "collusion" (which is not a crime, in any event).

Got it?
 
Guiliani is saying that, if you define the "Trump Campaign" broadly, including both formal and informal advisors, paid and unpaid staff, there is no conceivable way to ascertain whether ANY OF THEM had ANY COMMUNICATION with anyone even remotely connected to "Russia," in a manner that COULD BE CONSTRUED as "collusion" (which is not a crime, in any event).

Got it?

Congratulations on your new gig!

It's well past time Rudy Giuliani hired a bullshit to English interpreter, now if we can just get one for Donald Trump....
 
Guiliani is saying that, if you define the "Trump Campaign" broadly, including both formal and informal advisors, paid and unpaid staff, there is no conceivable way to ascertain whether ANY OF THEM had ANY COMMUNICATION with anyone even remotely connected to "Russia," in a manner that COULD BE CONSTRUED as "collusion" (which is not a crime, in any event).

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Jan, 16

Lavrov: There is another example of the absurdity of what is happening. Prosecutor Robert Mueller has been working for almost two years now. He interviewed dozens, if not hundreds of people, but found no leaks that would confirm alleged collusion between US President Donald Trump and the Russian Federation. No facts and no leaks were presented, which is very strange for the American political system. Leaks usually happen instantly there. There have been some; several facts have been mentioned regarding Ukraine’s involvement in the US election campaign, but not Russia.

Here is one example. Michael Flynn served as President Trump’s national security adviser for several days. I read with interest what he was specifically accused of. Prosecutor Mueller accused him of two things: first, Flynn called Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak before President Trump’s inauguration and asked him not to reciprocate in response to the sanctions that Barack Obama imposed on Russia in the last days of his presidency, urged us not to take the path of escalation and confrontation. Was that so bad? Was it against the interests of the American people or the American government that a potential member of the administration urged us not to harm the American diplomatic mission in the Russian Federation, not to take away property or expel diplomats? This was one accusation against Flynn. The second charge against him was that he also asked Ambassador Kislyak to influence Moscow’s position on the resolution discussed in the UN Security Council, which required Israel to stop building new settlements in the occupied territories. Since the Obama administration decided not to block adoption of this resolution and, unlike in the previous cases, to abstain rather than vote it down, Flynn, according to Mueller, asked the Russian side to veto this anti-Israeli resolution.

But he essentially called on the Russian side to defend the position that the United States had been promoting in the UN for decades. Here are two accusations against this person. I do not know what sentence he will get. But the absurdity of the situation is obvious to me. This is just one example of the bacchanalia going on around the so-called Russian dossier.

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks and answers to media questions at a news conference on the results of Russian diplomacy in 2018 Moscow, January 16, 2019
 
This is a problem . Cons always use the exact same “collusion “ line because they can’t use “contact” or “meeting “ or “communication “ because all that stuff did happen.
 
Guiliani is saying that, if you define the "Trump Campaign" broadly, including both formal and informal advisors, paid and unpaid staff, there is no conceivable way to ascertain whether ANY OF THEM had ANY COMMUNICATION with anyone even remotely connected to "Russia," in a manner that COULD BE CONSTRUED as "collusion" (which is not a crime, in any event).

Got it?
Collusion is a crime. It's called conspiracy.
 
Rudy Guiliani now claims he never said the tRump campaign didn't donsoire with Russia, only that the president didn't.

So the next phase is "yes it happened but tRump didn't do it"

But by bit, closer and closer, the walls are closing in on tRump.

Redirect Notice
Rudy always said he knew that Trump wasn’t involved.
 
Guiliani is saying that, if you define the "Trump Campaign" broadly, including both formal and informal advisors, paid and unpaid staff, there is no conceivable way to ascertain whether ANY OF THEM had ANY COMMUNICATION with anyone even remotely connected to "Russia," in a manner that COULD BE CONSTRUED as "collusion" (which is not a crime, in any event).

Got it?

Get what? Either you are ignorant of the facts, or offering a BIG LIE for the biddable.

Only Trump and his supporters use the word "collusion"; the facts already exposed have lead to indictments and guilty pleas; likely Mueller's Investigation will lead to more indictments, and the big one may very well allege President Trump aided and abetted a conspiracy with the Russian Government's cyber attack on our democracy.
 
Rudy Guiliani now claims he never said the tRump campaign didn't donsoire with Russia, only that the president didn't.

So the next phase is "yes it happened but tRump didn't do it"

But by bit, closer and closer, the walls are closing in on tRump.

Redirect Notice
Rudy always said he knew that Trump wasn’t involved.
Lol, and it works too!

tRump or one of his minions waves the baton and you all sing along.
 
Rudy Guiliani now claims he never said the tRump campaign didn't donsoire with Russia, only that the president didn't.

So the next phase is "yes it happened but tRump didn't do it"

But by bit, closer and closer, the walls are closing in on tRump.

Redirect Notice
Rudy always said he knew that Trump wasn’t involved.
Lol, and it works too!

tRump or one of his minions waves the baton and you all sing along.
You mean like the unconditional corporate tax break that I disagree with?

Could you start a thread of Dem legislation you disagree with or are you a Pelosi “wrinkled ass” kisser?
 
This is a problem . Cons always use the exact same “collusion “ line because they can’t use “contact” or “meeting “ or “communication “ because all that stuff did happen.
Yep, but what little do they know, because "collusion" is merely a blanket term that includes all those things, as well as conspiracy.
 

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