Tuatara
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You already did? Can you tell which post you did this. I certainly don't see this. As for this logic proof shell, we;ll see that logic is something that escapes you.I already did , unfortunately the logic proof shell you have constructed around your brain has proven to be impenetrable, unfortunately for you that shell is so similar to those that religious zealots construct for themselves as to be entirely indistinguishable from them.Let's shut this up for good. Mr Wesel was too much of a weasel to answer this. Let see if you can.
Umm..no, I believe in the existence of the divine (absent empirical evidence therefore I have FAITH that it's true), I do not claim to know the nature, methods and purposes of that divinity; those are things that I can only glean hints about from observing nature, introspection and study of the voluminous body of work regarding the subject.First of all, do you believe in ALL the gods ever described by humans.
False analogy, I have no evidence that "fairies and unicorns" exist however the Universe is so vast and human knowledge of it so limited that I don't rule out the possibility that they exist, thus I have no definitive answer (SEE : AGNOSTIC).Do you believe fairies and unicorns exist. I'm not asking you if there is a possibility for their existence or a probability. I just want to know if you believe in their existence.
Yeah and? Do I have empirical evidence that what the man said is untrue? No I don't, so based on my own experience I take it on FAITH that it's isn't true, just like you take it on FAITH that the non-existence of the divine is true.Second, Assuming you have said no to even one of my questions then by your standards it is faith not to believe in anything I just presented. A man walking down the street could tell you he has seen a floating purple and green Brachiosaurus that remains invisible most of the time in his backyard.
According to your logic if you "believed it didn't exist and had no evidence of it's non-existence (which you wouldn't of course) then this by your accord would also be a belief by faith.
Now that I've destroyed your vapid argument for the 3rd time... perhaps you'll have learned not to bring a spoon to a gunfight, although I doubt it.Now answer the question or concede.
A simple no would have been suffice. So you admit you do not believe in every god ever described. No belief in Vishnu, Deva or Ahura Mazda. These are gods that their believers believe are just as real as yours.yours. I did not ask you methods or purpose. I just simply asked about your beliefs. Since you admit you don't believe in all these other gods is your non-belief in them attributed to faith?
False analogy? I'm not asking whether or not you have evidence. You certainly don't have evidence for the existence of your god. Also I made it quite clear that I'm not asking about possibilities or probabilities. I'm asking about belief. So if someone asks about your belief in fairies and unicorns you are on the fence with them
So anything you believe not to be true you do so on faith. You better contact all the dictionairies because that is excatly the opposite of what they claim is the definition of faith.
From Oxford:
Faith
-Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof:
-A particular religion:
Merriam Webster:
Faith
- : belief in the existence of God : strong religious feelings or beliefs
- : a system of religious beliefs
Mmmm, can't seem to find atheism or non-religious beliefs. I guess you're smarter than all the people at Merriam or Oxford. I'll be waiting for the new definitions of the word faith to be admitted. Let me know when you are successful.
What's this about destroying my vapid argument. What a joke.